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RE: new Rein interview
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2005, 04:57:37 PM »
play an atari game and watch a silent movie...kinda the same thing
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RE: new Rein interview
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2005, 05:16:23 PM »
Read the forums and lick the conductors on a 9-volt battery.  Same thing.
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RE: new Rein interview
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2005, 05:58:00 PM »
Connectivity was extremely well executed, the consumer aspects were the only problem.  Very few people could afford to own four GBAs, connective wires, and a Gamecube, so the idea floundered.  Their usage of it (Four Swords, Wind Waker, Pac Man Vs) was great, but the business side of it was not well thought out.

So far as I can tell, that's not a problem for the Revolution.
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RE:new Rein interview
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2005, 06:35:15 PM »
With all this talk about videogames as art, I thought I was in an insertcredit
thread...

Seems Rein got caught sticking his foot in his mouth and this his is shoddy
apology.

With all this talk about Rev's controller, no one has brought up the point that Nintendo
is trying to change the rules of engagement for this next generation.  Nintendo
can't afford an arms race with both Sony and MS, so Nintendo is trying to change
the rules.  That is all Rev's controller stands for...
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2005, 07:16:04 PM »
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With all this talk about Rev's controller, no one has brought up the point that Nintendo
is trying to change the rules of engagement for this next generation.  
Perhaps because this has been said many times on other threads?
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« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2005, 07:44:01 PM »
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Originally posted by: Galford
With all this talk about Rev's controller, no one has brought up the point that Nintendo
is trying to change the rules of engagement for this next generation.  Nintendo
can't afford an arms race with both Sony and MS, so Nintendo is trying to change
the rules.


heh...kinda like how the US fought during the revolutionary war?

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RE:new Rein interview
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2005, 08:50:13 PM »
Here’s my take.

The Nintendo Revolution’s “freestyle” controller, a.k.a. “the revmote”, looks like a simplified T.V. remote control (casual and non-gamers be happy), but is actually much more advanced and innovative (hardcore gamers rejoice.) The revmote’s unique functionality has caught the gaming community by surprise, and Nintendo’s strategy doesn’t stop there.

Nintendo is known for its innovation, but who would have thought they would completely reinvent the wheel. Comparing this freestyle controller to traditional models is like comparing a car with a steering wheel to a car that knows where you point, goes where you point, and stops when you make a fist. It’s almost a crime to the mind to jump from our unbroken conventions to convention breaking revolutions in one step, but Nintendo believes one step to fly northwest is better than two steps to turn up and left. Nintendo has up and left convention, and for some, that just may not fly.

If you were ask Nintendo why they would leave their traditional market in the dust, they would say that they are taking all conventional gamers with them into the future, where they will join non-gamers in an expanded market in which everyone benefits from Nintendo’s unique strategy and system features. In this new, expanded market, Nintendo’s strategy of using a simplified control scheme, the backward-compatible virtual console, and non-games that appeal to the masses seems to clearly make them leader of the new-school. The only thing keeping Nintendo from achieving this dream scenario is their ability to expand their market in the first place, which they are proving fully capable of with the Nintendo DS. Competitors –watch and learn.

If I were Sony or Microsoft, I’d be studying Nintendo’s every move and watching the market like a hawk. I’d be putting money into must-beat-Nintendo R&D to make better games for the newer, broader market Nintendo creates. But there is a problem for Nintendo’s competitors that cannot be easily fixed. Sony and Microsoft have more than likely priced themselves out of the newly expanded market, which either forces Nintendo into a market niche or gives them the edge in the market as a whole. My bet is that the revmote will give Nintendo the edge in key genres, notably 1st Person Shooters (online Halo killers), RTS (real-time strategy) and action/adventure games, not to mention all their 1st party franchises and original offerings that always validate your initial investment.

The edge also comes from 3rd parties that can’t seem to resist the revmote’s appeal, just like the entire gaming industry including its current and future consumers. Put a Nintendo Revolution with the revmote and a game that makes ingenious use of its functions in front of any type of gamer, whether a 49 year old Sony exec or 8 year old XBOX fanboy and you’re going to hear a lot of “can I play?” Hell put it in front of a little girl with a Nintendogs remake or a lifestyle/self-actualization “non-game” in front of an adult and hand them the remote. Systems will be sold that day. Demo kiosks will appear at your local Office Depot, right next to the Apple I-Pods.

If this Revolution is any better than its hyped up to be, which I’m sure it will be by its release, you might just see Nintendo come out somewhere about the top, with Sony and Microsoft’s R&D departments wearing Nintendo slips under their dresses for the generation after.

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RE:new Rein interview
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2005, 09:49:37 PM »
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but Nintendo believes one step to fly northwest is better than two steps to turn up and left.
Aha! That's where you're wrong - it's 1.4142... steps to the Northwest .

Anyway, I do agree that it's all in the software. If Nintendo is actively doing what they've said they're doing (going around to 3rd parties to give them ideas about how to use the NRC in their traditional franchises) then that's a big step forward. Nintendo needs to prove that these traditional genres can be easily transferred to the NRC, and by giving other developers ideas, this will become easier.

Sure, there will be games that use the motion sensing ability unintuitively just for the sake of using it. But these games won't sell, and the developers will figure out soon enough that they need to actually spend time to mould their games around the NRC. If Nintendo has games from many genres early in the Rev's cycle that use the NRC in a truly revolutionary way, then there shouldn't be a problem, because 3rd parties will just use those games as examples.

But now, all we can do is wait for information on the games and how they will be played.
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RE:new Rein interview
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2005, 08:54:53 AM »
Very nice post Mode_red.

The overall statement you made I agree with.  In a perfect world Nintendo would be handsomly rewarded for their business strategy and guts...but, unfortunately, there are so many variables that will determine what will actually happen.  Making a cool new gadget and innovating doesn't necessarily mean they will be rewarded.  With the DS they already dominated the market so with their name alone they had enough to be successful in intoducing the new features, but with home consoles they are pretty much the bottom of the food chain (not too far behind Xbox but behind none-the-less).  

I guess I'm being pesimistic for the sake of showing all sides of the argument.  I hope that they are successful in becoming an "AND" product when it comes to the more hardcore and casual gamers and they become an attractive product to non gamers.  I just find it sad that they might have another lack luster showing in the console race even though they are doing so much to add to the industry and drive it foreword.  It also sucks that, while they may not gain much market share, come next generation after Rev the other consoles will probably have taken their ideas and ran with them (if they don't take them this generation) and could profit off of their ideas more they they did when they took the risk of using them.

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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2005, 09:12:31 AM »
I can't wait till REV commercials start making appearances. People will be like "WTF?!" then like "Holy sh*t!" then like "WTF?! Nintendo?!".....
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« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2005, 12:08:56 PM »
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You can't debate opinions


Actually, that is exactly what a debate is.
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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2005, 12:23:59 PM »

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heh...kinda like how the US fought during the revolutionary war?
The Revolutionary War was won with conventional tactics. The idea that we beat the Brits with the brilliant strategy of hiding behind trees and using rifles is a myth.

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RE: new Rein interview
« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2005, 02:37:32 PM »
revmote + ds
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« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2005, 05:51:00 PM »
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You can't debate opinions


Actually, that is exactly what a debate is.


Haha, you obviously raped my qoute and took it out of context.

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RE:new Rein interview
« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2005, 11:30:00 PM »
My opinion is bigger than yours.

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