Author Topic: Smash bros!!! (Read 44051 times)

foolish03 · « **on:** September 15, 2005, 07:41:15 PM »

I think smash bros will become a whole different game because of this controller. i cant see it being played the same with that thing. Oh well, im really not liking the whole futuristic DVD remote.l

The Omen · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2005, 07:49:48 PM »

Relax! Is Nintendo dumb enough to make a controller that won't kick ass with it's best selling franchise?

therat · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2005, 07:54:25 PM »

imagine having to punch to punch....in almost any direction...

im alil shaky on how you can press any of those buttons other then the back B button easily... i have the one handed RPG controller for the PS1 and only the back trigger buttons were easily hit...

i sure hope nintendo didnt put the nail in the coffin! i hope they dominate this next wave though, im sick of being laughed at for only owning a nintendo system!

therat · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2005, 07:55:50 PM »

where is smash brothers duel server?

zakkiel · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2005, 08:24:52 PM »

Actually, as I think on it there are so many ways they could cash out SSB that I'm just going to refrain from any comment until they give us some idea.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2005, 10:06:45 PM »

Smashing with that controller will just result in bruises for people near you.

foolish03 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2005, 01:42:11 AM »

All im saying is it wont be the same game as the one on gamecube. Theres a certain play style that goes along with contemporary controllers. It most definitely will not play the same. and i fear it might be for the worst.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2005, 03:23:13 AM »

Because Nintendo has absolutely no idea what they are doing, right? Good grief, people...

Mario · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2005, 03:33:56 AM »

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All im saying is it wont be the same game as the one on gamecube.

That's because SSBM is on GameCube, and the new SSB will be on Revolution.

Pale · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:48:46 AM »

They won't mess with SB. It may use gyros for things like dodging (which is cool) but there is no way they will take the classic smash bros. gaming out.

Don't worry about it. Remember how much of Iwata's baby smash brothers is. It's not something he is going to let get screwed up in any way.

foolish03 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2005, 04:41:58 PM »

Im a little bit relieved to hear that it can use a traditional style controller for certain games. I hope smash bros uses that. I like the controller a lot now that its possibilities are starting to sink in.

Come on mario dont be naive. Windwaker played almost exactly like legend of zelda and majoras mask. Different consoles doesnt necesarily mean different play style. Totally new control setup does though.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2005, 04:47:18 PM »

There's really no difference between the N64 and GC besides power, so to say that there's no difference in the games on each system is quite obvious...However, the Revolution is quite different from the GC...I predict an awesome new control setup to go along with SSBRev...

Pale · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:12:49 PM »

I completely disagree Bill. Smash Brothers is their tournament game. It is imperative that the controls stay very close to the same. If they want to make a fighter with innovative rev controls, great. It will probably be very cool, but they can't mess with Smash.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:15:38 PM »

Oh, they will...And you'll LIKE IT!

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:29:15 PM »

Well smash will probably be more twitch AND movement based. Also maybe nintendo will implement classic controlls if you dont like the new controls but thats rediculous since you only need 4 buttons for smash. (jump powermove, reg moves, sheild and the taunt).

So on the rev controler lets see the Z1 will be grab,Z2 the sheild (or the other way arround) A will be reg move and B your smash. Taunt can be select and a flick up or up on the control stick for jump and your smash move can be a smash with the stick or a strong flick forward on the remote. There you go problem solved. If your still anal about it a strong feeling tells me you can also use the classic shell with it.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:32:13 PM »

A = Standard Attack
B = Special Attack
Z1 = Throw
Z2 = Shield
D-pad = Taunt

And that's if they didn't add anything cool with motion-sensing, which I REALLY doubt...

Edit: What the heck? The second half of Lord's post didn't appear for me, thus making me make a redundant post! >=O

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:39:32 PM »

Well Bill I think it will be better if they assign taunt to select and what if they pull a N64 and use the Dpad directions as jump.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:46:05 PM »

Oh, right, I didn't think about that! But jumping could be done using the motion-sensing...

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2005, 05:49:52 PM »

assuming you can hold the controller sideways and still use motion sensing (something I doubt a great deal):

I say tilt side to side to run (or double tap dpad), x= power attack, flick up to jump, down to dodge, y= standard attack , b = block, A = grab ; select= taunt

that would work awesomely AND its still a crappy control scheme compared to everyone elses... so they've got options.

zakkiel · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2005, 07:09:08 PM »

I'm sure you can hold the controller sideways and still have the motion sensing work.

ThePerm · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2005, 07:24:16 PM »

i always like smash bros...but for some reason the controlls never felt like they responded right to me..i meanj i know all the buttons and stuff...but it never worked how i wanted..i beleive there is some sort of delay between when i press the buttons and whe nthe action happens that i just cant get.....however

with soul calibur i never had this problem..everything feels very fluid to me. I really hope they change uo spash bros controls because yeah...

he remember that part of the trailer with the hot chick moving mario...it would be cool if you jumped with the flick of a rist and you punched by jabbing....and maybe charging relates to how long you hold the button

wandering · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2005, 10:07:35 PM »

I hope they change the controls as well. Smash has always been about simple controls....yet it still has annoyances like the unintuitive smash attacks.

Also, as I think other people have demonstrated on this thread, the REV has the functionality of the N64 controller....so worries about the controller not working for Smash Bros are almost certainly unfounded.

Pale · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2005, 06:02:38 AM »

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I hope they change the controls as well. Smash has always been about simple controls....yet it still has awesomeness like the perfect smash attacks.

Fixed. Seriously. If you honestly think the smash attacks are unintuitive, I'm completely confused. Would you rather have special attacks and combos be up, down, punch, special, block, block, up?

Sheesh. It's people like you that made them put the C-Stick functionality in the current game. GARBAGE!

Ahhhh... you want to know where I stand if they changed the Smash controls to flicking the wrist? That could be what puts me over the top. I WOULDN'T BUY IT! It's a competetive tournament fighter. How can sensing motion be more precise than a button?

Also, if you think there is a delay in the controls you are probably playing with the wrong character. Some characters attacks have built in delays. (ie. Mario's plunger punch) This is designed so that the powerful attacks require timing to pull off. Same goes for charging smash attacks. Dammit. It's the GCN's best seller for a reason. It is one of the most precise fighters of all time. Every attack happens as it was designed. For once you are memorizing attacks results instead of their dumbe multiple button pushes. Its about timing instead of crazed memorization or strategy guide staring.

And, as I edit for the third time. I will admit that some of what Bill and others were talking about up top would work. D-pad for jump. A and B for normal/special attack. Nunchuk shoulder for block and item toss. That would probably work well. I'm just serious in saying that motion sensing can't be used for this game. Well I guess you could use it as an elaborate and fun taunting technique, but that's about it.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2005, 08:08:01 AM »

Anyone else like the idea of having separate control styles?

One thing I was thinking that MIGHT work in a SSB, is having all the analog stick functions taken over by movement/tilting. Like, point the controller to the right to move to the right. Do it really fast to dash to the right. Point it up to jump, like in that "demo" video. But I'm sure not everyone would like that idea, so maybe they could have a control scheme that involved the analog stick add-on.

zakkiel · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2005, 08:52:52 AM »

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I hope they change the controls as well. Smash has always been about simple controls....yet it still has awesomeness like the perfect smash attacks.

I'm just serious in saying that motion sensing can't be used for this game. Well I guess you could use it as an elaborate and fun taunting technique, but that's about it.

Then you're screwed. Nintendo absolutely will not release its most popular title without making its new controller integral. I love the current gameplay, but I'm also completely convinced that they designed the new controller with SSB heavily on their minds. I have no doubt that once we see what they do with motion control, we will never go back.

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