Topic: The Official IWATAON Speech Thread

[couchmonkey]

The d-pad isn't good enough to replace face buttons.  It's not natural (if even possible) to hit two buttons at once, and having to control the L and R button with the same hand may not work.  I think you'll have a heck of a time trying to play an old-school 2D fighter with this controller - it may be possible, but it will be even harder than on the GameCube.

However, 2D fighters are one fairly small genre.  (Edit: and Pale is right, a six-button accessory could run it...but it had better be under $10...I don't want to spend $500 putting together the ultimate four-player Revolution rig)  

I'm REALLY looking forward to what this puppy can do for FPS's as well as new, unique game concepts.  I want to see games!!  

[Dirk Temporo]

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Originally posted by: Pale
The concept of attachments is awesome, but I do super agree that a set of them need to be standardized.

We should see both the analog one shown and a generic button one packaged at launch...

All you fighter fans, listen to this...

See how the person is holding the stick in the left hand and controller in the right?  Imagine a nice 4-6 face button adaptor designed for the right hand...

Now you have the main controllers d-pad in your left and the buttons in your right... perfect for fighters.

See... frigging sweet.

*GASP!*

You're right!

I'm so excited!

[Artimus]

Read the IGN article on how it'll work with current games. Sounds amazing. Before reading that I was like WTF? But reading that...it makes sense!

[Nile Boogie]

Yes BILL I read your post yet I still can't comprehend the idea of it. I'm not as smart as most people so bare with me my friend.

Don't make me call my friend Uma!!!!

[KnowsNothing]

I want you all to think about how special the DS was just a few minutes ago....

[ShyGuy]

I wonder if the dpad is analog? That would be nice. I was also thinking, the attachment doesn't have to be on a cord, they could make something that slips onto the right side and adds more buttons and triggers.

[Chris1]

I love it!  Imagine playing Mario 128 with it!  The game that should bring in a new way of playing!

[Ian Sane]

I notice some people talking about retooling controls for certain games.

NO ONE IS GOING TO RETOOL SH!T.  Nintendo isn't the market leader.  No one will go to that effort for them.  If a game doesn't work as is on this controller it's just not going to be ported.  Nintendo's the oddball.  First and second place use one design while third place uses another.  That means first and second place are the standard.

I think they should put more buttons surrounding the A button on the remote.  Two buttons is way too few.  The Genesis was struggling with three buttons over TEN YEARS AGO.  My TV remote has a big menu button in the center with four buttons around it for volume and channel.  It works very well and I don't have to look at it.  This controller would be much better with that addition.

I think Nintendo is going to retool this thing and add more buttons.  Or maybe they'll just scrap it entirely if people react to it poorly.  The mouse movement part of it will still work with something more traditional.

I like how you can hold is sideways.  It's incredibly non-ergonomic but that's a good idea.  Well a better idea would probably be to not have a remote in the first place but for it's a good workaround for a pretty questionable idea.

Oh I like how you can turn the console on/off from the controller.  Very good idea.

Regular batteries?  Boo!  Anything other than rechargable is unacceptable.

I'm just reading through 1up's article and commenting as I go.  I'll probably post more opinions as I find out more info.

[PaLaDiN]

For those worried about fighting or SNES games, don't be.

Think about holding this in the left hand with a button attachment on the right. No need to point.

There you go, problem fixed.

Haha, somebody already mentioned that.

The only problems I see now are standardization and N64 games.

They need to have an analog and a button attachment as standard.

[stevey]

just saw 1 up pics oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm in more love with it.  

[Dirk Temporo]

"The removal of the Revolution branding from the console lends credence to rumors that Nintendo is nearing a point when it will announce an official name for the machine -- a day that cannot come soon enough because it also means that IGN can launch an official channel for the platform."

WTF? So they haven't put up a section because they don't know the 100% official name? That's dumb.

[Mop it up]

The possibilities are endless! I can't wait for the mop attachment that can sense how much dirt is on your floor.

[King of Twitch]

They overcharged on GC memory cards, hopefully the extra buttons don't cost as much but I wouldn't hold my breath. Hope they keep the name, it's got a good vibe.

[MANTI5]

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Originally posted by: Pale
The concept of attachments is awesome, but I do super agree that a set of them need to be standardized.

We should see both the analog one shown and a generic button one packaged at launch...

All you fighter fans, listen to this...

See how the person is holding the stick in the left hand and controller in the right?  Imagine a nice 4-6 face button adaptor designed for the right hand...

Now you have the main controllers d-pad in your left and the buttons in your right... perfect for fighters.

See... frigging sweet.

But honestly, who wants tons of atatchments dangeling all over the place?

And saying a fan can't be negative or voice concerns is idiotic.

[MrMojoRising]

I have no idea if this has been said, since I missed the last like four pages, but why don't they just have four buttons on the bottom for SNES games?  Add in a couple of shoulder buttons and you have a perfectly good SNES controller built into your pointer.

I really REALLY hope they make wireless classic controllers for NES, SNES, and 64 nonetheless.

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: MANTI5

Quote
Originally posted by: Pale
The concept of attachments is awesome, but I do super agree that a set of them need to be standardized.

We should see both the analog one shown and a generic button one packaged at launch...

All you fighter fans, listen to this...

See how the person is holding the stick in the left hand and controller in the right?  Imagine a nice 4-6 face button adaptor designed for the right hand...

Now you have the main controllers d-pad in your left and the buttons in your right... perfect for fighters.

See... frigging sweet.

But honestly, who wants tons of atatchments dangeling all over the place?

And saying a fan can't be negative or voice concerns is idiotic.

No, saying you won't buy the Revolution because of an image is idiotic...

[Spak-Spang]

I am excited about the controller.


Remember this is just a prototype of the controller still...and perhaps the reason why is to keep it looking different and keep questions.

Nintendo could easily redesign the controller to have 4 buttons when holding the controller like a NES system.  

It can also add several new function ideas with the attachments.  

I am really looking forward to this idea.

I hope one of the attachments allows you to connect two together and you can create a boxing games, or music games.

Really this is an extension of Japanese-minded gaming and not American, which I love.  

Also, I fully expect wireless SNES, and N64 controllers for the system now.

Long Live Nintendo...for creating something different.

[Caliban]

I'm starting to sink in to this controller and my mind has finally understood it, it's really cool and I can't wait to try it out. It's interesting that they almost brought back the POWER GLOVE but in a more modern and efficient design. Ah, just one big no-no from me at the moment, Nintendo please do not (I repeat) do not use normal batteries for the controller like XBOX360 controller uses, I consider it very unsophisticated not to use better energy solutions i.e. Lithium Ion battery technology, yeah I hate to buy batteries every time they run out because it's just a waste of money and there is already too much wastes in this planet. I apologize for my little battery rant.

[The Omen]

Very interesting.  I like it.  Don't really know what else to say really, until I try it for myself.  From what I've read, I gather that in effect you can pull the controller back then forward to throw a pass in Madden?  Do you know how revolutionary that would be?  You could sprint out of the pocket with the analog and throw the ball, totally under your control.   That seems ...just insane.  And I can't even fathom how bad ass this is going to be with FPSs!  It's a gun for God sake!  It seems to me, it can work with every genre of game, as long as those pesky third parties adapt.  

Overall, I'd say my first impression was this:  THAT'S BAD ASS...  

[Nile Boogie]

Somebody explain how I'm going to play Super Smash Bros.3 with said controller. I love It but I really hope they make the WaveBird Forwards Compatible.

[Bill Aurion]

No fighting games?  I like when people don't use their freaking brains...

Look...

[Dirk Temporo]

Excellent. On another forum, so far we have "The sh!ttiest piece of gaming hardware in history." and "A disgrace to gaming."

Huh. That's funny. Somehow I thought the PS3, being a "super computer" as opposed to a "gaming machine" would take that title.

-_-

This doesn't bode well. The only people who are excited about it are the people who read all the info about it. Casual gamers, and even moreso non-gamers, aren't going to read about it.

[KnowsNothing]

You don't need to retool the games.  Some quote somewhere said it, it will work.

[mantidor]

finally we know why Twilight Princess will be the last Zelda game as we know it.

[Pale]

The funny thing about the battery complaint, for me anyway is that at first I was thinking...

"Yeah, what the hell? why would these not have rechargables when the wavebirds do?"

Then I remembered I just bought rechargable batteries with my wavebirds years ago and forgot about them...  big deal.