Author Topic: Xbox 360 Price Announced (Read 16258 times)

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2005, 05:29:35 AM »

I would hate to be the person that bought the core system to realize how much money I will be spending above the original price to get back to even if I just bought the Deluxe package.

Stevey I think your right, but I think Microsoft is losing Money no matter what. I think they are losing less with the $399 package and that is one reason they are throwing those extras in there...it costs them little to nothing to add into the pot, and it makes the gamers (hopefully) more willing to buy those extras. However, if they don't buy the deluxe edition we will get them back on the uber expensive accessories.

I think Microsoft is losing alot of money on this launch, and they are pricing premium money on the extra controllers, memory packs, harddrive, headsets and more to make up for the losses.

I beat Microsoft hopes to make all their loses up in the first few years with those extra accessory sales.

stevey · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2005, 06:03:52 AM »

"I beat Microsoft hopes to make all their loses up in the first few years with those extra accessory sales."

and 3rd party accessory

KDR_11k · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2005, 06:53:22 AM »

Yep, in case anyone still wonders why I wouldn't want Microsoft in first place no matter what.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2005, 06:54:27 AM »

Will people pay $500 for a new console in Canada? I won't say no. That's only $50 more than the Xbox and PS2 were when they were new, and I'm willing to bet a few retailers were charging $500 or more for the PS2 when it was brand-new. Not to mention that it comes with a couple of things the Xbox didn't have - a headset and the DVD remote. Early adopters will still snap it up, but it will be interesting to see if sales remain strong in 2006.

If the Canadian dollar was as weak as it was when the original Xbox came out, we might be paying about $450 and $600 for the systems, and I think that would definitely slow down sales.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19, 2005, 05:13:47 AM »

Industry professionals respond....

couchmonkey · « **Reply #30 on:** August 19, 2005, 06:41:21 AM »

This one really bothered me:

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"The PC model is the example, giving gamers the experience they are happy to pay for. Xbox 360 actually beats the PC as there's a common high-quality 3D baseline, so you can only go upwards. I hope Microsoft enjoys the experience from this strategy and truly opens up the model for Xbox 720. Meaning if I choose to add extra features or enhance features, I can do that. (Faster hard drives, more texture memory, physics chips etc.) Fingers crossed.

The reason I don't play a lot of PC games is because I don't like upgrading my PC. I like how console gaming is as simple as plugging it into the TV, plugging it into the wall, popping in a game, and pressing "Power". I don't want to have to own components x, y and z to play a certain game. (That's why Nintendo usually takes the smart step of including accessories like the Bongos and the Mic with key games).

It was an interesting read. It brought up a point a couple of posters here have made: if games are supposed to be developed with non-hard drive owners in mind, the hard drive becomes a glorified memory card. So this choice will either render the hard drive pointless for creating new gaming experiences or it will force non-hard drive users to buy a ton of memory cards. Maybe both.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #31 on:** August 19, 2005, 07:33:40 AM »

If the PC model was so great consoles wouldn't f*cking exist. PCs just smoke consoles when it comes to hardware. If that's what mattered then we wouldn't have even made it to the current console generation and MS certainly wouldn't have bothered with the Xbox. People like the user friendly design of a console. They like how you buy it ONCE and every game released works on it as the creators intended. No incompatibility problems, no dumbing down the game for older hardware compatibility, no patches, no annual hardware costs to keep up with current games.

If a console loses these advantages then it will fail because it's nothing but a crappy PC. The console gaming market won't buy it. And even if they did for a little while because there was nothing else it would be so easy for another company to release something that was a real console and console gamers would flock back to it. If console gaming became the same as PC gaming PCs would crush consoles because almost everyone already owns a PC so if they have to upgrade hardware all the time they might as well do it for the machine that can also be used for word processing, accounting, shopping, listening to music, programming, web surfing, emailing, etc.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #32 on:** August 19, 2005, 09:07:10 AM »

I found that article interesting. More than half of the responses were negative, and the ones that weren't negative either came from PC American developers, or game magizines which just really don't care. Also I thought it was lame that a few quoted "What is 50 bucks more now that Zelda is delayed?"

Umm...I hate to tell you there are other games for PS2 and Gamecube coming out that I may want to play more than Xbox 360. Perhaps the question should be which games could I get now for my system I own for $299-$399 while I wait for the inevitable price drop when the PS3 or Revolution launchs (whichever launches first.)

Microsoft is making stupid blunders and acting as if they are the market leader and this generation is already theirs for the taking. Well, they aren't the market leader, they are second place in America, and a distant 3rd in Japan.

Asking people to pay premium prices for controllers and other accessories is insane.

Preventing 3rd party hardware makers to make cheaper products by making them give part of their profit to Microsoft is a lesson Nintendo learned years ago is stupid.

Trying to fool the public with up to 40 launch games (but really launch period means up to 4 months after launch.) First off the 40 number is bloated to begin with...not all these games will make it, and second a 4 month period is not a launch window. Launch is what games I can buy when the system is released or maybe the next month.

Not that I really like Sony and the Playstation, but I perfer them over Microsoft at this point. Geez, they already assume they have are money and we are just begging to play Halo 3 and Perfect Dark 0.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #33 on:** August 19, 2005, 10:27:05 AM »

yeah, J allard is a frickin prick. I value his opinion about as much as Matt's

IceCold · « **Reply #34 on:** August 19, 2005, 08:27:23 PM »

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"Also, if backwards compatibility is dependent on having a hard drive, it's very odd that Microsoft has now set pricing to make it tougher on consumers who might want to get into the next generation but are cost-conscious. They are the ones most attracted by backwards compatibility. For Microsoft then, backwards compatibility is not a key issue.

It never really has been, and they tried to cover that fact, but ultimately they can't.

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Microsoft runs the risk of making the same blunders that killed Sega, which had too many SKUs on the market at the same time. It dilutes the energies of the game developers, confuses consumers, but it saves the company money

Shecky · « **Reply #35 on:** August 19, 2005, 10:20:58 PM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yep, in case anyone still wonders why I wouldn't want Microsoft in first place no matter what.

The whole micropayments thinking should be enough... do people like this "Xbox Marketplace"

KDR_11k · « **Reply #36 on:** August 19, 2005, 11:12:28 PM »

Naah, Sony Online Entertainment (AKA The Empire) has a similar model in place, except the payments aren't micro and we're talking about Everquest 2 equipment.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #37 on:** August 21, 2005, 04:58:44 AM »

I told you Gates was evil!

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #38 on:** August 21, 2005, 08:00:59 AM »

All I can say is RIP OFF! And Microsoft can say byebye to my potential sale. Looks like Rev will be first for me then the PS3.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #39 on:** August 21, 2005, 09:01:30 AM »

I'm of the same mind. Even with a hard drive, would there be anyway to transfer files from your original Xbox? The Revolution is going to let me clear four consoles out of my entertainment center. The 360 would force me to keep the biggest one and add another huge one.

I was surprised to see them even offer wired controllers --and at $40! Why? Yeah, it's one of the comfiest controllers I've ever held, but that has nothing to do with cost. $100 for WiFi? I figured out that if you want to get a full set of controllers, a couple of games, WiFi, and a useless piece of plastic to snap on your box, it's going to cost you about $800.

Darc Requiem · « **Reply #40 on:** August 21, 2005, 08:35:45 PM »

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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I'm of the same mind. Even with a hard drive, would there be anyway to transfer files from your original Xbox? The Revolution is going to let me clear four consoles out of my entertainment center. The 360 would force me to keep the biggest one and add another huge one.

I was surprised to see them even offer wired controllers --and at $40! Why? Yeah, it's one of the comfiest controllers I've ever held, but that has nothing to do with cost. $100 for WiFi? I figured out that if you want to get a full set of controllers, a couple of games, WiFi, and a useless piece of plastic to snap on your box, it's going to cost you about $800.

I agree Bloodworth. They've cancelled my purchase as well. I was looking to the 360 to hold me over until the Revolution got here but now I'll just play my DS. The DS has a bunch games I want anyway. I have an extra $300 to play with. I can't believe how stupid MS was this two trim levels of console. Its gaming system not a car. Worse yet, the harddrive is just going to be a giant memory card because its not standard. My favorite features of the X-box will be basically non existant because publishers will know that not everyone will have a harddrive. MS had prime opportunity to stick it to Sony, instead they've made it easier for Sony to continue to control the market. This is the biggest opportunity Nintendo has had to retake the market, both of its competitors seem to be making grave errors. Hopefuly Nintendo can keep theirs to a minimum and capitalize on its opponents mistakes.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 21, 2005, 11:44:30 PM »

360 is too expensive, the DS has nothing I have to play, my GameCube will not have another game until half way through next year, and the REV won't launch until at least then but most likely later. Man, I'm screwed.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #42 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:09:44 AM »

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360 is too expensive, the DS has nothing I have to play, my GameCube will not have another game until half way through next year, and the REV won't launch until at least then but most likely later. Man, I'm screwed.

Go play Road Avenger on Sega CD. Or any one of the million games you haven't played.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #43 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:12:05 AM »

"the DS has nothing I have to play, my GameCube will not have another game until half way through next year"

WTF?

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #44 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:15:25 AM »

Geist! Mario Baseball! Battalion Wars! Fire Emblem! Nintendogs! Animal Crossing! Mario Kart!

Yay for fun!

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:21:54 AM »

You forgot Mario & Luigi 2! >=O

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #46 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:22:28 AM »

I hear Kirby, Meteos, Zoo Keeper, Another Code, Wario Ware, Bomberman DS, Advance Wars and Puyo Pop Fever are all awful games.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #47 on:** August 22, 2005, 06:05:55 AM »

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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
I hear Kirby, Meteos, Zoo Keeper, Another Code, Wario Ware, Bomberman DS, Advance Wars and Puyo Pop Fever are all awful games.

Eh? Is that sarcasm or something? I mean, at least one of those games has to be good...

On-topic: Looks like Microsoft is serious about making a profit this generation. For crying out loud, $40 for a memory card, $50 bucks for a controller? Not to mention that Live marketplace thing where you'll need to spend actual money to unlock features in your games. They're not making a profit, they're ripping their customers off!

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #48 on:** August 22, 2005, 06:15:27 AM »

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They're not making a profit, they're ripping their customers off!

Something's wrong with that sentance!

By the way, Infernal was being sarcastic

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #49 on:** August 22, 2005, 06:20:09 AM »

Oh, ok. I'm not very good at telling sarcasm.

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Author Topic: Xbox 360 Price Announced (Read 16258 times)