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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1250 on: August 30, 2007, 02:38:03 PM »
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Did they mention bosses?  Because BioShock has some of the worst "bosses" ever created...(All but the final boss are just normal enemies with more hit points...)


No mention of bosses whatsoever, they conveniently left that out. Surprised I didn't catch this part either, but you HAVE to read this.

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You can circle-strafe, lock onto enemies, and jump around all at the same time without losing your bearings. Are they the best FPS controls on any console? No, but they're just as good as the dual analog alternative and that's a huge achievement for the Wii.


So there you have it, MP3 doesn't have the best FPS controls on a console and they are only just as good as dual analog.
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1251 on: August 30, 2007, 02:44:19 PM »
Ahahaha, oh brother...This guy isn't biased at all!
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1252 on: August 30, 2007, 03:04:41 PM »
This is why I could never work professionally in the gaming journal industry. If I worked in the same place as that guy I would have to severely hurt him.

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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1253 on: August 30, 2007, 03:08:03 PM »
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No, but they're just as good as the dual analog alternative


Hi, I'm UERD. I like dual-analog controls for FPSes, sprinkling metal shards into my cornflakes, and holding it in until my groin feels like it's about to explode.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1254 on: August 30, 2007, 03:20:41 PM »
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No, but they're just as good as the dual analog alternative


Hi, I'm UERD. I like dual-analog controls for FPSes, sprinkling metal shards into my cornflakes, and holding it in until my groin feels like it's about to explode.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1255 on: August 30, 2007, 05:16:14 PM »
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This is why I could never work professionally in the gaming journal industry. If I worked in the same place as that guy I would have to severely hurt him.


They call themselves (IGN) journalists, but I call them reporters, because that's all they do, report.

LOL at UERD's post.

So far the bosses in Prime have been fun, challenging, diverse, and quite imaginative.

I wish that Greg Miller, the ign guy that gave Lair a 4.9 and managed to not give it a score based on visuals alone, would have written this head-to-head.
Oh, and I can't wait for the next ign-wii podcast, if Peer Schneider is a participant then I'm sure he will say something about it, if not then Bozonorama or Cassamassina will, I hope.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1256 on: August 30, 2007, 05:28:32 PM »
I'm beginning to think Nintendo has a good idea of what direction companies are going, first it was Rare, next it was Silicon and now it is Factor 5.
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1257 on: August 30, 2007, 10:11:25 PM »
That head to head is a load of tripe.  Especially the control part.  How can they be as good as each other?  They can't be.  The Wiimote is incredibly easy to use.  I can't physically use dual analogue controls.  I have tried.  I have tried to play Halo and Halo 2 among others, and I cannot grasp it.  Call me useless or whatever, but a good control scheme should be easy to pick up and play at the same time.  I don't think there could be one person that could just pick up and play a dual analogue game.

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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1258 on: August 30, 2007, 10:16:24 PM »
I've NEVER been able to play dual analog. I've been able to sort of stumble through it... but never with any great level of competence. To this day, I switch to southpaw controls in Halo despite being right handed because my right thumb simply doesn't have the dexterity to aim... and I've been like this ever since the N64 and Goldeneye.

This is just hardcore gamers being afraid of change and entrenching themselves in "the way things have always been done" because they're too close-minded to think that anything could ever be wrong with their beloved hardcore gamer formula, or that there could ever be something better out there.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1259 on: August 31, 2007, 06:43:23 AM »
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  The last FPS I played was Medal of Honor multiplayer with some friends.  Us having shotgun battles two feet away from each other is testament to our skill.  I either hear the controls are equal to dual shock or even worse too easy.  It sounds like they want a game where aiming is impossible now that's a fun game.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1260 on: August 31, 2007, 09:27:39 AM »
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You can circle-strafe, lock onto enemies, and jump around all at the same time without losing your bearings. Are they the best FPS controls on any console? No, but they're just as good as the dual analog alternative and that's a huge achievement for the Wii.


This quote has literally enraged me. I never want to read it again because every time I do I just want to punch something.

It is infuriating that somebody actually has the balls to say that the Metroid control scheme is "just as good as the dual analog alternative." Just as good as!?!?! Try better, by leaps and bounds. There's not even a comparison. What FPS controls are better? That's what I want to know. These controls are even better than the PC. ARGGHHHHH!!! What a retard, I hope somebody beats his stupid face in.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1261 on: August 31, 2007, 10:09:52 AM »
that kind of stupidity is design to get extra clicks, I hope none of you actually fell for that.  
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1262 on: August 31, 2007, 06:42:03 PM »
Ugh . . . Frustration Prime tonight as my game seems to not want to do what it's supposed to do.

I need your guys help:

Ok now then, I'm on the first planet (Bryao , spelling?) and well I'm up to the part right after the ship upgrade. I found my way to the ? room where I got the missile pack, read the lore and found that I couldn't proceed any further due to the blaster doors that were down over the door ways.

So . . . I couldn't figure out what to do. I left the room, killed everything, made it back to my ship . . . went back . . . nothing.

I read on GameFAQs that upon leaving the room I'm supposed to be attacked by space pirates and by defeating them the doors open up.

I killed every living thing in the area and nothing happens for me, the Wii keeps making noises as if it's loading something . . . and the doors to the room where I can't proceed from takes forever to load . . . could something be funky with the disc?

Anyone else have this issue? Any help would be appreciated.

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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1263 on: August 31, 2007, 06:56:03 PM »
You are talking about the room that looks out onto the Seed generator, correct?  You DID blow that up, right?
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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1264 on: August 31, 2007, 06:57:23 PM »
I'm finally done with that planet and couldn't be happier. I hit plenty of roadblocks along the way, including the one your are facing.

I found that the information that comes in via satellite/radio to misleading. After getting the ship upgrade, you are ready for the west-most area. Land at that dock then proceed.

Bill: He is on the eastern side of the planet, which must be done after the western side. Edit: Reverse that
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1265 on: August 31, 2007, 06:58:26 PM »
Actually I did not . . . I'll try that first and see if it lets me move on. Thanks Bill.

Edit: wait now I am confused, I did go immediately to the west area right after I got the ship upgrade.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one hitting road blocks here. I'll be honest I got frustrated at the whole ship upgrade thing cause I couldn't figure out how to get my ship in the damned place, didn't realize I had to LOWER the damned missiles first lol.

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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1266 on: August 31, 2007, 07:01:46 PM »
Go to your ship, land at the western dock. Continue until you get to an outdoor room with a giant wall (it has a red spike in the middle). Try to proceed from there.
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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1267 on: August 31, 2007, 07:04:59 PM »
Wait, my answer still shouldn't change then, because isn't the missile + lore combo in one of the rooms you blow up one of the shield generators?
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« Reply #1268 on: August 31, 2007, 07:08:58 PM »
There are one of those type of rooms (with the translucent red window) at the end of both the western and eastern paths. On the western one, the generator is unprotected and can be destroyed. On the eastern one, there are two turret guns protecting the generator, so those must first be destroyed.

Mashiro is in the eastern room, where two space pirates should appear and open the side doors (which start a circular path around the two turrets). The problem is that he didn't destroy the western generator first.
Edit: Switch east/west in the previous statement.
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« Reply #1269 on: August 31, 2007, 07:10:17 PM »
I landed in the west, it's a pretty straight forward area, I went in battle some space pirates, called the ship down to blow up a section of the wall to progress further, fought the boss which was a mount for one of the space pirates (the boss where you have to hit its tongue and then blast bombs under its belly and proceed to grab its tail then do damage to its underside) then went on to the room with the lore and missile pack. There is a door on the left and right (both aren't visible except for on the map) because two metal shields are covering them.

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« Reply #1270 on: August 31, 2007, 07:13:33 PM »
Well in any case it seems like I missed doing SOMETHING . . . and I won't be able to sleep till I figure out wtf I missed lol so I'll be back and update you if I figure it out.

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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1271 on: August 31, 2007, 07:13:35 PM »
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There are one of those type of rooms (with the translucent red window) at the end of both the western and eastern paths. On the western one, the generator is unprotected and can be destroyed. On the eastern one, there are two turret guns protecting the generator, so those must first be destroyed.

Mashiro is in the eastern room, where two space pirates should appear and open the side doors (which start a circular path around the two turrets). The problem is that he didn't destroy the western generator first.


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« Reply #1272 on: August 31, 2007, 07:14:06 PM »
Hmm...I could have sworn that the room with the protected side doors was in the east. Anyway, use your ship to destroy the generator outside the window.

Edit: I was wrong. It is indeed in the west. Still, follow my advice about using your ship.  
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« Reply #1273 on: August 31, 2007, 08:02:27 PM »
I got it to work thank you guys =)

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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #1274 on: August 31, 2007, 09:58:55 PM »
THIS ENTIRE THREAD HAS BECOME DARK BLUE LINES.

So yeah, how do you unlock the things in the achievement gallery lists?