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« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2006, 03:28:44 AM »
120 hour TP > 40 hour TP
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« Reply #126 on: April 18, 2006, 04:49:57 AM »
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And Metroid should not be co-op, for a variety of reasons.  Something like Halo is co-op because it's just bloodshed.  Metroid is too complex for co-op.
Plus it's Metroid.  I mean, come on.


And thererin lies my point....it would BE complex on purpose!  This would lend itself to going more of the engaging, adventurous route rather than a FPS shoot-everybody-except-you route, see?  I mean, hell, it coldn't be anymore complex than Odama is.....Nintendo gamers are a different breed....I believe we could handle it and wrangle out an entirely new experience in the process.  All I'm saying is, if they are dead set on multiplayer, let the modes at least try to be as ambitious and unique as the source material.


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RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« Reply #127 on: April 18, 2006, 05:16:57 AM »
120 TP > 40TP is not what I believe at all.

I believe that TP main quest at about 30-40 hours is excelent.

And

Side quests and mini games should take up the rest of the game for more adventure.

Those side quests could include mini dungeons, boss battles what not...but I don't want the game to be my entire life for 100 hours.  It would literally take me 3-4 months to beat...if not longer.


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« Reply #128 on: April 18, 2006, 05:51:58 AM »
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I'd LOVE Metroid Multiplayer.

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As much as I dont like multiplayer I have to agree with this, the question is how to make a multiplayer "metroid" experience? I like the boss co-op idea, the only bad thing would be that Samus' character would be lowered somehow, because until now she had never needed help from anyone.

How about if a group of players control a gang of space pirates and have to hold a fort or something? or how about controlling a metroid? It would rock with the new controller to manipulate a flying thing.


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« Reply #129 on: April 18, 2006, 08:02:37 AM »
This is what I'm talking about!..ideas like that for multiplayer.  That's the point I'm making...instead of taking on your average generic multi options, be different and creative....something that would of course work with the series' mythos, but would still prove engaging and enveloping!

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« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2006, 12:46:15 PM »
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120 TP > 40TP is not what I believe at all.

I believe that TP main quest at about 30-40 hours is excelent.

And

Side quests and mini games should take up the rest of the game for more adventure.

Those side quests could include mini dungeons, boss battles what not...but I don't want the game to be my entire life for 100 hours.  It would literally take me 3-4 months to beat...if not longer.



It would be like building a wagon. After the months pass, you'll be pleased with your shiny new red wagon that you....yes you....built yourself.

Aren't you proud?


Aren'y you proud of yourself?







Too bad you don't have anyone to pull the wagon....
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« Reply #131 on: April 19, 2006, 01:34:07 AM »
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I don't want the game to be my entire life for 100 hours. It would literally take me 3-4 months to beat...if not longer.

If it's good, what on earth is wrong with that? I like good experiences to last as long as possible! Is that weird?
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« Reply #132 on: April 19, 2006, 05:36:29 AM »
What is wrong with that?  I have a life...and it isn't video games.

Video Games is a hobby.

If it takes too long even a good game, I won't finish.  

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« Reply #133 on: April 19, 2006, 09:46:08 AM »
I replayed Deus Ex the other week. It took me 20 something hours to beat. I imagine that my first time through, it took me about 40 hours. I wanted it to last longer.
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« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2006, 07:26:06 PM »
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What is wrong with that? I have a life...and it isn't video games.

Video Games is a hobby.

If it takes too long even a good game, I won't finish.

Yeah, I have a life too, I just don't see what that has to do with anything. When you get a new game, you have to beat it within a certain timeframe? Why? You've been playing Zelda for years, yes? What's wrong with spending a few months on one especially good chapter of the series?
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« Reply #135 on: April 19, 2006, 07:34:14 PM »
Hmmm....

If candy tastes good, I'll eat it. I don't care how small or how big it is, or even if I can only eat half of it. Sweet is sweet. Fun is fun.

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« Reply #136 on: April 20, 2006, 07:32:24 AM »
Wandering and maybe Kairon:

Because there are several games I want to play.

Ok.  lets run through.  I want to play New Mario, Legend of Zelda, Red Steel, Super Smash Brothers Revolution, Zelda DS, Metroid Prime Revolution.

Those are just the games I think are coming out this year...and I may potentially have many more games I want to play.

Right now I am already limited to how many games I can buy.  (Probably 4-5)  Of those games, if one is so long that it takes me 1/4 of a year to beat with my schedule then I will probably NEVER FINISH IT.  That is a problem.  Or it means I will only buy 3 games so I can beat all of them.

Right now I think I have 3-4 games in my collection I enjoyed and really loved the game, but I have never beaten it because I got distracted with other games.  Some of them include really amazing games you would think everyone would finish.  


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« Reply #137 on: April 20, 2006, 08:12:21 AM »
Hmm...

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« Reply #138 on: April 20, 2006, 08:44:22 AM »
I guess.  

Really, it is just a matter of opinon on game length.  I dunno why I let it get outta hand with my opinion.  

I guess I just wanted to explain myself.  Still, I do believe that Nintendo was on to something when they talked about most gamers are not even finishing games anymore.


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« Reply #139 on: April 20, 2006, 08:48:47 AM »
I haven't finished a game since...wow...

I've finished a couple DS games, but if you look at my GC purchases, then I haven't finished a game since... uh... Pikmin? That can't be right, I hve to have finished more than that during the GC's entire lifespan! ...Does Donkey Konga count as finished?

And since the DS games I finished and LURV on with all my heart were short ones (Phoenix Wright, Sprung)... Hmmm...

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« Reply #140 on: April 20, 2006, 08:56:34 AM »
A list of games I haven't finished and own:

Bomerman Generations
Metroid Prime
Geist
Ikarugi (Well this one is completely acceptable)
Mario Golf Mushroom Tour  (Does this count?)
SSX3 (I haven't beaten all of Peak 3 with even one character)

Mario Kart DS (I haven't completed the missions, or Mirror mode)

Can't think of the others right now.

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« Reply #141 on: April 20, 2006, 09:02:54 AM »
If my brother beats a game and I watch him do it, does that count?

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« Reply #142 on: April 20, 2006, 09:13:08 AM »
You haven't beaten Metriod Prime?! *Gasp*
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« Reply #143 on: April 20, 2006, 09:23:45 AM »
I...watched my younger brother play virtually the entire game and beat it... doesn't that count?

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« Reply #144 on: April 20, 2006, 09:41:44 AM »
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A list of games I haven't finished and own:

Bomerman Generations
Metroid Prime
Geist
Ikarugi (Well this one is completely acceptable)
Mario Golf Mushroom Tour  (Does this count?)
SSX3 (I haven't beaten all of Peak 3 with even one character)

Mario Kart DS (I haven't completed the missions, or Mirror mode)

Can't think of the others right now.
you don't want to see my list of unfinished games, my list of "un-played*" games is multiple times longer than your "un-finished" games . I own around 50+ GC games!!

I honestly can't remember the last time I've actually finished a game... I think it was Twin Snakes and that was back when it came out.
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I...watched my younger brother play virtually the entire game and beat it... doesn't that count?

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Thats more than good enough for me, If I have a game that I know I'm not gonna beat(mostly cause I lost interest or just didn't have the time), I'll let my friends kids borrow it and tell them to call me when they get to the end of the game. I watch them beat it and I feel that that was good enough. Its seems like I just buy videogames nowadays to keep them occupied more than for me to actually play games.


*by un-played I mean some are un-opened by me and others I've only played enough to get through the opening game-playing intro(like the first level or training mission).

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« Reply #145 on: April 20, 2006, 09:44:08 AM »
You're both pathetic.
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« Reply #146 on: April 20, 2006, 09:46:25 AM »
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« Reply #147 on: April 20, 2006, 09:56:26 AM »
Well I only own about 15 games total for my Gamecube, and much less for my DS.


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« Reply #149 on: April 22, 2006, 08:06:51 PM »
a few months ago i went on a crazy gaming binge and bought the MegaMan X collection (the day it came out and was the first time i used my MegaMan controller my gf bought me), then two days later the two of us (my gf and i) went to ToysRUs in times square with her younger brother and i bought MP2 and Geist for 8.98 each!!!! i was amaazed lol. since they were both so cheap and i was in a spending mood i bought True Crimes NYC (yet i regret that i payed full price for it..) because it had been awhile since i had played anything overly violent (usually doesnt appeal to me). oh and i also went half on Mario Strikers with my gf, but thats stayed at her house and her brother wont stop playing it, so i'll probably have to get my own copy.
i played a new one everyday (except MP2, i knew that was one to give a little more attention to) and just tried to balance them all at once. MegaMan was easy becuase 1 and 2 i could beat in no time, so i'd do speed runs and switch to another game. Like i'd clean up a precinct in True Crimes, then complete one stage in Geist. Then i'd play thru megaman x3 and want to break something because it was only the second time i ever got to play it, then back to true crimes or geist.
granted i dont have a wife or go to school....so th ere is sometimes away from the gf and when not working, before or after work, that i could devote a little more time to gaming. but i see your point. actually as of today i havent beaten megaman x6 (HORRIBLE...), geist or mp2. with the latter two games, i actually am up to the final boss' but just havent bothered picking them up. i think i had video game over kill and now i spend more time playing guitar and the occasional smash bros.


and back to the topic of revolution controlls for MP3:
i always thought of playing it this way:

A- jump
B- arm cannon
the d-pad would be versatile in that there woudl be different modes of use for it, though it might be complex...
this is how i see it though
D-pad (standard) up: grapple beam/left: morph ball/down: missiles/right:.....??
hold z2+d-pad: visors
hold z1+d-pad: weapons

though after reading so many post about lock on, my method sucks. i thought i could fix it by saying it would be possible to lock on by moving the revmote towards the screen. that would make  extend samus arm straight towards the selected opponent to focus (lock-on) the target. it would make sense because i imagine samus holding her arm cannon at a slightly more relaxed; arm down, elbow bent, cannon facing forward. it would seem intuitive that if you would want to improve precision you would full extend your arm so that your elbow wouldnt be bent while aiming, thus locking on to the opponent in your reticule.
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