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The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« on: July 25, 2005, 06:42:10 AM »
Okay, last week we saw the unveiling of Factor 5's new game, Resident Evil 5, and Too Human...all for other consoles.  Sony and Microsoft are starting to show off their new systems with plenty of media, and ironically, three of the biggest products used to be Nintendo exclusives in some way or another.

Which brings me to a point one of our more controversial forum-buddies, Ian Sane, made: what is Nintendo giving us?  We've lost all these cool products and the competition is really starting to turn up the hype on their new systems.  I believe Nintendo needs to unveil the Revolution soon.

So far the company has shied away from showing media from the games, I'm beginning to think that they want to show the Revolutionary aspect before showing any games.  Okay, but if Nintendo wants Revolution to be taken seriously by the media, it needs to do something to generate excitement.  At the very least, I think Nintendo needs to announce a date for the official unveiling.

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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 07:32:29 AM »
Give it anothe month...
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 07:42:56 AM »
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I wonder if Nintendo will be able to keep it a secret until E3 next year? That'd be impressive. Well, maybe not that far away, but I don't think it should be soon.

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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 07:48:12 AM »
Any word yet on Spaceworld?  If Nintendo was going to unveil Revolution, that would be a good time.  Another good time, I think, would be around the time that Zelda is released (Nov?).  It could be some sort of, "If you like this, look at what's coming from Nintendo next year..."  type of thing.  Some sort of Revolution dvd could be a nice pre-order bonus for buying Zelda.

Just my opinions though.  But didn't Nintendo say it would be sometime this year?  The Zelda launch, I think, would be most probable, if not sooner.  I doubt it would be any later.


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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 07:59:39 AM »
I believe it will coincide with the release of Zelda, or at the very least Nintendo will throw a Zelda Release Party and drop the RevOluti0n bomb at the same time.
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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 08:00:05 AM »
Agreed. The sooner Nintendo takes the sheets off of this thing the better. I'm tired of having to convince my friends that Nintendo has a chance for this generation.
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 08:08:36 AM »
The only thing that will justify the wait will be that they have prepared everything fully to the letter.

But then, hearing that this thing will hit Europe in 2007 (2070 for Australia!!!!!!!) then old habits really do die hard.

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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 09:27:48 AM »
As long as they don't do it between this friday and next wednesday because I'll be miles away from any kind of computer.
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 10:16:30 AM »
Thinking on it...I should point out I have a pretty long-term view.  "Soon" to me would be in a month or two, I don't expect them to say something next week or anything.

I think an announcement around the time of the Zelda launch would be a good idea, but that depends on the timing of the Xbox 360 launch.  I think it would be best for Nintendo to give out some exciting new details about the system before then.
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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 11:10:57 AM »
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I wonder if Nintendo will be able to keep it a secret until E3 next year? That'd be impressive. Well, maybe not that far away, but I don't think it should be soon.


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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 11:55:59 AM »
There's some sort of dealer fair in Japan on Thursday held by Nintendo...it may be sooner than you guys think...
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 03:18:12 PM »
I foget I don't remeber stuff good after I crack my head open in a fight with a fanboy but didn't the sp was top secret intill one day out of nowere nintendo show it of in japan and pgc was first in telling the world
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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 04:40:13 PM »
This is what I posted over at GAF about where/when/how I think Nintendo will go about the unveiling...

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I don't think there will be a Nintendo conference until the hardware specs are finalized, the features are finalized, the controller is finalized and the games are playable at whatever event it's gonna be unveiled at. In otherwords, I think it'll be like the NDS unveiling, only in Japan (like the "Touch! DS Tour"). They'll probably call it the "Feel! Revolution Tour" 'cos the interface is something that you will have "feel to believe"...which probably makes sense with how (Teddman says) the controller looks "normal" yet has features you won't be able to fully realize until you hold it & play with it yourself. That way, Nintendo can get away with a normal looking controller and not be called out on the Revolution being revolutionless. Plus they'll probably reveal that the "interface" means beyond just the controller and into other non-controller revolutionary aspects of the system...like it being a psuedo home console/mobile gaming system as well as how the hardware makes it comparable to the competition yet cheap, fast & easy to program for. Like with NDS, we probably won't get actual specs nor will they give specifics on them, but they will show stunning visuals to qualm the fears that it would be underpowered. Plus they can hold out on unveiling it for a while (to get lot's of playable games/demos ready) that way. This totally fits with what Nintendo has been saying without being too unbelievable right?

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2005, 05:37:50 PM »
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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2005, 05:54:30 PM »
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This is what I posted over at GAF about where/when/how I think Nintendo will go about the unveiling...

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I don't think there will be a Nintendo conference until the hardware specs are finalized, the features are finalized, the controller is finalized and the games are playable at whatever event it's gonna be unveiled at. In otherwords, I think it'll be like the NDS unveiling, only in Japan (like the "Touch! DS Tour"). They'll probably call it the "Feel! Revolution Tour" 'cos the interface is something that you will have "feel to believe"...which probably makes sense with how (Teddman says) the controller looks "normal" yet has features you won't be able to fully realize until you hold it & play with it yourself. That way, Nintendo can get away with a normal looking controller and not be called out on the Revolution being revolutionless. Plus they'll probably reveal that the "interface" means beyond just the controller and into other non-controller revolutionary aspects of the system...like it being a psuedo home console/mobile gaming system as well as how the hardware makes it comparable to the competition yet cheap, fast & easy to program for. Like with NDS, we probably won't get actual specs nor will they give specifics on them, but they will show stunning visuals to qualm the fears that it would be underpowered. Plus they can hold out on unveiling it for a while (to get lot's of playable games/demos ready) that way. This totally fits with what Nintendo has been saying without being too unbelievable right?


I agree with this...To add, I really can't shake the feeling that the Rev will be revealed to the western world through IGN... =\
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2005, 07:12:01 PM »
If Matt gets to see the Revolution first and starts making snarky comments on IGN, I'm gonna pay off Reggie to take his name. Hard.

Oh well, I guess it could be worse, it could be revealed on a lame MTV infomercial...

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2005, 07:21:53 PM »
i remember walking into my local console gaming center (yea, a place perfectly tailored for our type) during Nintendo's E3 press conference to a paused image of Iwata holding the tiny Revolution in his hand. the first words from the anti-nintendo crowd were along the lines of "look how tiny your Nintendo's next gen console is." naturally, they used the size of the revolution as a drawback of the system, which got me thinking that the American public will probably do the same unless this amazing "user interface" can really turn some heads.

ps. and I think Nintendo just doesnt want to admit that they are targeting females with their new stance on gaming --- think about all the evidence we have supporting simpler, more pick up and play titles with a more intuitive, less intimidating user interface.  that's still not a bad thing; I tried playing EA's Rugby title on XBOX and thought the controls were needlessly confusing.

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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2005, 07:28:59 PM »
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Oh well, I guess it could be worse, it could be revealed on a lame MTV infomercial...



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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2005, 05:12:16 AM »
"Oh well, I guess it could be worse, it could be revealed on a lame MTV infomercial... "

or it could be revealed on g4 *chills*
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2005, 06:04:36 AM »
Well seeing as how Gamespy is part of the IGN network (as is G4, I believe), and Gamespy being Nintendo's online partner for Rev, I don't doubt that IGN or G4 will get dibs on the unveiling.

At least the Nintendo bias will stop on IGN/G4 next gen.
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2005, 07:35:37 AM »
G4 is unrelated to IGN, I think. Unless G4 bought IGN after they put themselves up for sale.

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2005, 09:14:49 AM »
Okay, my bad.  I just assumed they were related since a lot of the E3 G4 videos  were up for viewing on IGN.
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RE:The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2005, 09:28:03 AM »
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2005, 07:43:12 PM »
I've been thinking a lot (a few minutes) about how Nintendo should unveil the Rev.  Not like "They should do it at Spaceworld!!!!" but what they should show when the day comes.  According to Miyamoto, the Rev's concept is pretty easy to copy.  While Nintendo shouldn't wait until the other consoles have launched, they don't want to unveil too early because the competition may steal the idea.  The competition may not even care- they may dismiss it as stupid and useless and not realize its true potential until it's too late.

So that got me to thinking, well what if they DO care?  Well then in that case Nintendo should have some kickass software to go along with it, both first and third party.  But there's no way of knowing how Sony or Microsoft or anyone's going to react.  What if they didn't care UNTIL Nintendo showed the awesome new Metroid game?  Potentially, showing awesome games could get the competition interested, and they could begin to forumlate how to include it into their own systems.  On the other hand, showing crappy games could protect being copied, but it would also turn off most people.  Of course later on they'd show Metroid and wow everyone, but how much damage would've already been inflicted?  Which is worse, turning off some people initially, or being the "last place" console with no more secret weapons?

Furthermore, if the unveiling turns out to be decidedly sub-par (with plans on showing Metroid in the future) they have to get the timing just right so that they don't completely lose everybody.  They have to time the initital unveiling with enough time to show Metroid without losing too many costumers.  Since the X360 and PS3 will be pretty expensive, most gamers will not be able to afford two consoles until it's (again) too late.  Timing is important, but particularly hard, what with the X360 and the PS3 launching fairly far apart (it's not that far, but far enough to make timing tricky).

BUT, will people buying X360s and PS3s really care about the Rev anyway?  The crowd Nintendo's going for is very different than the crowd that Sony and Microsoft is going for (with some overlap, of course).  Does any of this timing crap even matter?  It's not going to make much of a difference with non-gamers, is it?  This is an advantage that the Rev has.  Obviously Nintendo has to pay attention to their competition, but their core audience is likely to just not care about those other two companies, so building their plans around Sony and Microsoft just isn't as important.

Yeah, so I don't know what to think.  I just typed that up, I'm not even going to re-read it to see if it makes sense, other people will do that.  Really, that whole thing was from someone else's point of view, personally I don't care much since I don't really care about the competition anyway.  I mostly care about Twilight Princess right now, it will be the best game ever.
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RE: The Time for a Revolution Unveiling should be soon
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2005, 07:49:50 PM »
"BUT, will people buying X360s and PS3s really care about the Rev anyway? The crowd Nintendo's going for is very different than the crowd that Sony and Microsoft is going for (with some overlap, of course). Does any of this timing crap even matter? It's not going to make much of a difference with non-gamers, is it?"

Well I guess we're assuming that Nintendo isn't JUST targeting non-gamers with the Rev.  I would hope that existing gamers would be included.  I think the greatest threat is losing existing fans to the other consoles.  Plus the Xbox and Playstation owners are not just mainstream Madden fans.  Hardcore gamers own both consoles as well, especially the PS2 since because of it's huge userbase it has a larger collection of hardcore games than the other two combined.  These hardcore gamers are potential Nintendo customers.  The only reason some of them don't own a Cube is because of a lack of variety and options.  Some people would be interested in Nintendo but don't enough money or time to buy a second console so they could be attracted to the Rev if they felt they could be satisfied with it as their sole console.