Topic: Factor 5: Only 4 Sony

[BlackNMild2k1]

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In the wake of the consoles' unveiling, some developers are already leaning toward one platform.

"I was shocked by how powerful the new consoles are," said Julian Eggebrecht, president of the San Rafael, Calif.-based game development company Factor 5. "They should really free our development."

Eggebrecht said his company--which developed "Star Wars: Rogue Squadron" for Nintendo's GameCube--would create games exclusively for Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3.

The choice boiled down to performance, Eggebrecht said at E3 in Los Angeles. His company has worked with Microsoft's Xbox 360, but found PlayStation 3's 3.2GHz Cell chip offered more processing power. The additional performance allows the gang at Factor 5 to more easily simulate the real world for a better game experience, he said.

News.com  

[ruby_onix]

I just mentioned the same thing in the Revolution forum.

Here's another piece on this, from the Marin Independant Journal.

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Factor 5, best known for the "Star Wars: Rogue Squadron" series, has an even bigger announcement. After years of working exclusively with Nintendo, the San Rafael studio is signing on with Sony to develop two original titles for the just-unveiled PlayStation 3. It also has created a non-interactive demonstration that Sony is using to show the system's capabilities.

"It's a huge step up," said Factor 5 President Julian Eggebrecht of the PS3. "It's quite crazy, with production values so high."

As production costs skyrocket and publishers become less willing to pursue original ideas, Eggebrecht said, the opportunity to work with Sony was inviting.

"What's great is that Sony stepped up to the plate and said, 'Hey, we believe in you guys, so why don't we do something original together?'" Eggebrecht said.

[KnowsNothing]

The first article made it sound like Factor 5 switched to the PS3 after seeing the Killzone video, making them a bunch of idiots.  The second article was a little more suspicious since Sony went to them....Sony may have used a little monetary influence.  Either way, oh well, to me they were only good for graphics.  

Sadly, this means that we won't be getting a Factor 5 Pilotwings, which I will admit DID have a lot of potential.  

[wandering]

Sigh.
Defintaley there was monetary influence...they didn't go for the most powerful console this gen.

Nintendo, this is a sign you need to start showing devs hardware NOW.
And, for goodness sakes, spend a little more time/money on keeping exclusives. RE, viewtiful joe, too human, factor five...when will it stop?

[KDR_11k]

An exclusivity over X games ALWAYS involves money, else they would just say "Here's this game, we're developing it for that platform" instead of emphasizing the platform over the game.

[couchmonkey]

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The additional performance allows the gang at Factor 5 to more easily simulate the real world for a better game experience, he said.

I'm so sick of hearing this crap.  I was just on IGN (big mistake, I know), and ladies and gentlemen, please be aware: better graphics do NOT equal a better game experience!  Ai!  I'm ready to keel over from reading this bull.

[KDR_11k]

"Simulate" probably means physics in this context, which makes sense since the Cell is better at that.

[couchmonkey]

Ha ha, I'm feeling a lot calmer today (no IGN), you might be right KDR.  If that's what they're talking about, it doesn't bother me as much.  I also have to say that real-world physics don't always equal better games, but Factor 5 seems to be into that type of product, so it might be able to do something really cool with realistic physics.

[BlackNMild2k1]

well it is rumored that Rev has a PPU (physics processing unit), and that should make it more thatn capable of handling F5 needs.

[TheYoungerPlumber]

Factor 5 only codes games for one console because they love going low-level.   So this time they chose the PS3, big whoop.  They only made three games for the GC, and all of them were Star Wars games.  I'm sure people care about this (my best friend bought a GC for Rogue Leader) but not me.

[KDR_11k]

Three? I must have missed one, then.

[Nephilim]

Disapointed since they seemed to make the cube games while the other lucas arts companys made the other star wars games for ps2, xbox and PC.

[jasonditz]

Besides, its not like they were the only company providing Star Wars titles on the Cube. I don't think I ever enjoyed a game quite as much as Star Wars: Bounty Hunter. I know it takes a lot of flak for being repetitive, but I loved the control scheme. Jedi Outcast was a servicable port as well, but I don't think it worked nearly as well with a controller as it does with a keyboard/mouse.

Edit: Obviously I meant "I don't think I ever enjoyed a Star Wars game quite as much"

[TheYoungerPlumber]

Ah yes, only two.  For a second I thought there were three Rogue Squadron games on the 'Cube because the last one was "III."  Only two games?  All the more reason not to care.

[ruby_onix]

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Ah yes, only two. For a second I thought there were three Rogue Squadron games on the 'Cube because the last one was "III."

N64? GameCube? Same difference.

*RO wonders which console is supposed to feel insulted by what he just said*

[BlackNMild2k1]

from Sony's press conference last nite in Japan

Factor 5 revealed their PS3 game "Lair" with a trailer which can be seen below

Factor 5's "Lair" trailer

My guess is it is Rogue Squadron minus the Starwars liscence and using Organic flying beast.

Graphics look nice  

[vudu]

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Graphics look nice

For being pre-rendered, they better be.

[Ian Sane]

"The following is comprised entirely of in-game footage"

Well if there's any developer who can claim that and have me believe it it's Factor 5.  In-game models would probably be a more accurate description because there is NO WAY that all of that is "in-game" unless it's an in-game cutscene.  Some of those shots just don't look like gameplay.  My trust in Factor 5 and my mistrust in Sony are clashing.

Okay, we saw what Factor 5's doing so I want to see what Nintendo's doing instead.  I'm looking at this and thinking "man, what a loss".  So what does Nintendo have that justifies losing Factor 5?  This is why the Revolution info has to come out.  Factor 5 leaves and we're all justifiably pissed about it yet we have no assurance from Nintendo that everything's going to be cool.  Now F5 is showing this PS3 game and it looks pretty cool.  So why is it not on the Rev?

This week we have seen footage for two PS3 games that "should" be on the Rev but aren't: RE5 and Lair.  That's not good.  It gives the impression that Nintendo is losing all of their support.  This is hurting Rev hype and fueling PS3 hype at the same time.  We need something solid to help us get excited about the Rev.  I think it's time Nintendo revealed the big secret.  We're just being given too many reasons to buy a PS3 and not enough to buy a Rev.  Blind faith is not going to sell consoles.  We need to know NOW what's going on.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I t would be nice if Nintendo were to release screenshots and video of upcoming games, let 3rd parties show off the pics and videos of their upcoming games, and just have no one talk about how the game plays or how you interact with or control the game.  

I pretty sure that they(Nintendo) are waitin to blow the lid off all at once with a flood of news to bury the 360 hype and stop Sony in their tracks[/wishful thinking] but they need to show something. Sony and MS both have an actuall console that plays real games and I have seen these games, Nintendo has a bunch of rumors and a black box thats shrouded in secrecy.  

Being the Nintendo Loyalist since the fall of Atari I will buy a Rev regardless, but if I were the average consumer just now hearing about an upcoming generation of new consoles, I think PS3 or X360 would have to be the only choices cause a 3rd one doesn't exactly exist just yet.

[ShyGuy]

Hmm, looks okay but nothing special. I must be getting old or jaded or something, because so far all this next generation stuff has been "eh."

[Renny]

Nope, nothing special. Come on Sega. Show 'em how it's done with another Panzer Dragoon. Please?

[KDR_11k]

Most early teasers are just machinima, rendered with the engine but not doing the full game simulation (no gameplay). That's because scripted sequences look better than full gameplay scenes.

[Galford]

" Most early teasers are just machinima, rendered with the engine but not doing the full game simulation (no gameplay). That's because scripted sequences look better than full gameplay scenes. "

Too true KDR.

But really, I agree with Ian again.
From what I've read in various interviews, I don't think Rev is even finalized yet.

[Gamebasher]

" Most early teasers are just machinima, rendered with the engine but not doing the full game simulation (no gameplay). That's because scripted sequences look better than full gameplay scenes. "

Hmm, isn´that what Miyamoto always say about those specs demos from Sony or Microsoft?

You know what? I think we need not worry about a thing concerning Nintendo´s Revolution. Know why?

Because they have something that´s going to awe us, and rock us so much, and have us d-roooool away WHEN they spill the beans on the Big Gun - and they KNOW that! So they´re all cool...meantime working overtime to get a healthy line up of first party games ready, and the rest will go by itself WHEN the third parties see how ingenious the new control-interface will be and how easy and how cheaply they can make games on Revolution (which certainly counts in times of tough competition). I think they will love it, but Nintendo cannot reveal it just yet for very understandable reasons.

Somebody (who was it?) on the PGC Forums recently stated that he had read an article somewhere, which forecasted that in the future developers couldn´t afford to go exclusive on any systems very much, for the reason of rising development costs, and would thus be compelled to releasing on all three platforms at the same time in order to rake in the most cash to fuel their companies. We have already seen this with Capcom, who are now porting their RE4 game to Playstation 2.

So when that happens, as one member eloquently stated, Nintendo will suddenly receive a lot more attention because they are the ones who have the most first party games, which is a sure thing to turn heads when standing in the local game shop, trying to make a decision on what system to buy.

Who always secured a profit! on their hardware? N-i-n-t-e-n-d-o! Who didn´t? The other two! So who needs to worry? The other two! And that is probably why they are making so much noise, and why Nintendo is completely silent!  

Ah! Silence........ before..... the storm!!!!!!!!

Bwa-ha-ha-ha!!

 

[KDR_11k]

Gamebasher: There's a huge difference between a tech demo that's supposed to sell the hardware and a game demo that's supposed to push the game. The game demo won't use a seperate set of assets for the demo, they'll throw pretty much ingame stuff on there but have it act out a scripted scene instead of showing some chaotic footage of someone playing it with a beta HUD and stuff. Because you're not going to understand WTF is happening unless you know the game and the alpha HUDs are often not more than some raw text printed on the screen, sometimes even with debug output.

Oh and did you eat mushrooms again? That "They will rock us and dominate everything" speech sounds like you tried to be Super Gamebasher again.