Author Topic: Is it just me, or is 1080 fugly? (Read 17030 times)

xanrastafari · « **on:** February 17, 2003, 03:52:48 AM »

The latest set of screens (the-magicbox.com) looks shockingly like an N64 game....

Sir Daniel Fortesque · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:15:05 AM »

This game looks like crap. The heck's wrong with Nintendo... can't they for once show the power of the GC? Sheesh.

AGENTDICKLAURENT · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:34:10 AM »

It doesn't look that good yet. I agree.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:35:08 AM »

The trailer on the Zelda bonus disc makes it looks good. Dont judge all the game by screenies but on how good and smooth the gameplay is.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:41:52 AM »

Now saying a game is ugly is one thing, but calling it FUGLY is inhumane and antisocial

Sean · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:42:17 AM »

Beating a dead horse are we?

dafunkk12 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2003, 06:59:34 AM »

Well, judging by the OoT disc footage, the trees have gotten better. Gone from old-school cross-style to something better, but still not next-gen quality. I'm sure they've made a stylistic decision with the cartoony textures, but they don't seem nearly as hi-res as they should be, thus making things look a bit muddy. I've gotta say the environments (save te horrid trees, of course) look great, though.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:09:13 AM »

its not really that bad IMO
sure its not as great as F-Zero graphics but SMS graphics werent impressive either and still the game was popular
If it plays great, ill buy it, graphics arent everything.

Christberg · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:17:48 AM »

After seeing the Zelda bonus disc trailer, I think the character models could use some work, but otherwise I think it's a pretty good looking game. The framerate was really nice on it too- so if they can keep that and can up the skin resolution for the characters I think the game can look really nice actually.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:26:31 AM »

I think it looks awesome. (Especially in terms of graphics.) I have no idea what game you were looking at.

eOne · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2003, 09:41:28 AM »

I have to agree that the movie included with the Zelda disk wasn't that impressive. I own SSX Tricky and that looks much better.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2003, 10:10:05 AM »

ok i havent really seen any screens, but the worst looking game that i am aware of for the cube is nascar 2003........is it worse then that?

edit: i cant believe it.....i just looked at those screens and they look worse then nascar 2003. hopefully the final product will look better. i think it will.

Christberg · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2003, 10:57:07 AM »

Nascar 2k3 doesn't look all THAT horrible...

I mean, look at Jeremy Mcgrath Supercross World or Universal Studios Park Adventure for example. There's some real crud on GC, but that game certainly isn't one of the worst.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2003, 11:14:27 AM »

not even one of the worst?!?!?! it may not be the be the worst but its one of the worst. the graphics get so bad in multiplayer that i can see where i am going!

Christberg · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2003, 11:20:41 AM »

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Originally posted by: nolimit19
not even one of the worst?!?!?! it may not be the be the worst but its one of the worst. the graphics get so bad in multiplayer that i can see where i am going!

I'd post screenshots to prove it but trust me, Jeremy Mcgrath looks waaaaayyyyy worse.

I mean, at least your car doesn't drive inside the ground in spots or anything.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2003, 11:22:35 AM »

Yeah, the video on the Zelda bonus disc makes 1080 look pretty darn good. Not Zelda or F-Zero good, but calling it an N64 game is out of the question. Screens hardly ever do a game justice, believe me.

Sir Daniel: If you want to see Nintendo showing off the Gamecube's power, look no further than Wind Waker- that is easily the most graphically impressive game on any console yet, in my opinion. What they've done with the cel-shading is simply incredible.

Gharakh · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2003, 11:37:46 AM »

u guys should check out the streamed videos they have at gamespot.com of 1080. they look very nice and very cool. i'm still looking forward to this game even though those screens do look bad.
btw does anyone know an exact release date for this game yet?

Sean · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2003, 12:12:24 PM »

I've noticed a disturbing trend when people talk about game graphics: utter, bold-faced, asinine exaggeration.

Many of you will agree, I think, when I say that it's getting dadgum TIRESOME reading people's comments that such-and-such looks like an N64 game.

Let's think back to Mario Sunshine, a game that admittedly looked a bit sub-par in some of the early screens (in motion, I think the game is truly stunning in its own way, chunky textures or no). I heard people saying it looked WORSE than an N64 game.

I think we can all agree that the only thing a statement like that proved was that people had completely nostalgiacized* Mario 64, and the N64's graphics, to a degree that proved to be beyond laughable and entered a sort of surreal, Salvador Dali world where tigers jump out of women's breasts that are held aloft by stilts--a world as confusing as it is interesting. Well, that analogy works except for the "interesting" part. This isn't interesting--it's infuriating.

Let's try to keep our arguments grounded in some kind of reality that's practical enough for a good, sane forum such as this.

*I made this word up, just now. I think it'll come in handy.

Disclaimer: I do in fact realize that certain games on the GCN contain graphics that approach and even inhabit the world of the Nintendo 64--however, Super Mario Sunshine and 1080-2 belong nowhere near such a world. Thank you.

ThePerm · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2003, 01:52:28 PM »

well...from the vids i have on my computer f-zero looks pretty tight....bt the vid on my bonus disk. The textures are nto up to par, the characters need more detail, everything looks jaggy. It doesnt look as good as SSX tricky...which is very smooth and colorful and its not close to amped either. What it really resembles is a ps2 game...maybe it iwll be a lot more polished at release...it needs alot of work.

Icons by Size · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2003, 03:09:15 PM »

I just got the zelda bonus disc and the best movie on it is the wind waker one

as for 1080.......it looks god awful! it actually looks like a last generation game. the draw distance and the coat reacting to the wind are the only two things that even come close to helping the graphics. aside from those (and those arent even things to be proud of in this day and age) the graphics are just no good. and dont give me that "oh well, graphics dont matter, its gameplay" .......because why cant you have good graphics AND good gameplay?

Sean · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:00:20 PM »

Icons, I don't think anyone's saying graphics don't matter. We all know they do. But, hey, let me know if I'm wrong, but this game isn't done yet, by a long shot. Likewise, I don't think it looks nearly as bad as everyone says. Try to be reasonable. I'm not that impressed by it visually, but I have this thing called patience that allows me to wait until I have more to go on. This sort of thing reminds me more and more every day why Nintendo doesn't like showing their games off while they are working on them. Maybe, just maybe, Nintendo will let this game slip out the front door letting the graphics stay below expectations.

Then again, maybe they actually know what they're doing. I mean, I've seen so many games that had only a few months left in their dev. cycle go from having average frame rates and mediocre draw distances to being stellar in both departments. Believe it or not, some games don't start out finished. Don't ask me why.

Imagine it. Nintendo might know what they are doing. I've gotta go think about this.

PS--So help me, if this game comes out with "average" graphics and extremely fun gameplay and everyone's still screaming about "Why can't we have good graphics and good gameplay," I will personally hunt each of those people down and direct them to the HUNDREDS OF RECENT GAMES with CRAP GAMEPLAY and MIRACULOUS GRAPHICS. GOT IT?

Kulock · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:30:08 PM »

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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
The trailer on the Zelda bonus disc makes it looks good. Dont judge all the game by screenies but on how good and smooth the gameplay is.

Yeah, but there's a point where it just seems like they're really doing poorly in some areas. Gameplay is very important, but graphics do make an impact, you can't afford to short-sheet them too much.

Besides, the gameplay in the Wind Waker bonus disk video didn't seem that smooth to me, anyway. It looked pretty slow and awkward. :/ It's not that I don't want a good 1080, I liked the original, but you have to admit, at least from what Nintendo has shown us, it doesn't look like it's shaping up.

I did play a little of it at a Cube Club, but only briefly, and that was an early build, so I'm not going to judge it by that, either. But even now it still looks like the gameplay won't be that smooth or swift, and the graphics lower than the standards we're used to. That's a double-hit, really.

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2003, 05:18:18 PM »

According to Cube IGN, it is done. Unless there's another version (one developed by NST) that we don't know about, don't expect it to change from what we've seen so far.

Kai · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2003, 10:07:40 PM »

I hardly ever complain about graphics, I couldn't care less so long as the game-play is there....but my thought when I looked at these screenies was that they don't just look like average graphics, there are pattern matching errors and a few other indications that this game was either rushed or some people in the team just didn't care about it much. I hope I'm wrong.

Hybrid Hunter · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2003, 12:18:45 AM »

whats fugly?
According to IGN it is done?
Got a link?

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Author Topic: Is it just me, or is 1080 fugly? (Read 17030 times)