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RE:Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #175 on: April 30, 2005, 03:37:17 PM »
man, I go to my mom's for a few days and have no internet, come back home, and everyone is talking about some guy named Aries on nintendo.com and here.  i can't keep up with the revolution, it changes every day.

next week it will have both male and female ports and a butt plug, and the gyros will be put to good use.  feeling is better!
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« Reply #176 on: April 30, 2005, 06:27:19 PM »
teh mature!
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RE:Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #177 on: April 30, 2005, 06:39:48 PM »
I pronounce it the Sybian Revolution.
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« Reply #178 on: May 01, 2005, 05:42:37 AM »
I think this thread has gone as far as it can...

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« Reply #179 on: May 01, 2005, 08:36:22 AM »
Yeah we're back to square one.  No one knows wtf the REvolution is going to be about.  And after E3 we still might not know yet.

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« Reply #180 on: May 01, 2005, 04:48:09 PM »
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Yeah we're back to square one.  No one knows wtf the REvolution is going to be about.  And after E3 we still might not know yet.


Its a little ironic that whenever we discuss anything about the revolution we end up, as you said, back to square one.  What we are doing is in a way a revolution, we start and end in the same spot lol.  

Back on topic though, the way I see it, I think most of what this Aries is saying is the truth.  Everything he's said is a summary of what we've been hearing for months.  There has to be some truth behind all these smoke and mirrors.  I'd be suprised if all the Rev info at E3 is completely diff than what we've been assuming.  The only thing I'm expecting to get suprised about is the feature that supposedly makes the Rev revolutionary.  
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« Reply #181 on: May 01, 2005, 05:26:30 PM »
Most of what he says though makes the features seem like a fanboy laundry list of what he feels should be standard instead of offering up something revolutionary.  I mean, this is not the first week I have heard things about 3D imaging, bio feedback, and squeeze controllers.  But really all those things put together still don't equal a revolution.  That is all evolution.  I hate to say this again, but I think that the future of gaming lies in force feedback 3D controllers whether Nintendo does it first or not.  Today's games control as if we are driving the character like a vehicle, but a 3D controller allows the character to become more of a puppet.  It is like comparing a tank with a mech.  Who would win a fight?

look up the word marionette.
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« Reply #182 on: May 01, 2005, 05:38:02 PM »
Well i hope its true... as in the Kojima Revo game,, fps revo game ect...
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« Reply #183 on: May 01, 2005, 05:43:56 PM »
Well, he never revealed what the Rev feature is so that could be whats left to help us realize how this is a revolution as apposed to an evolution.  Also, he did say that the system wasn't exactly revolutionary and that Nintendo was banking too much on that word.  Weather the system is a revolution or not will probably be a matter of opinian and debate.  
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RE: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #184 on: May 01, 2005, 05:53:30 PM »
nemo_83:  Oh my gosh you just reminded me of something.  

marionette....remember Nintendo working on a new Mario game called MARIOnette.  It was mentioned being worked on since Sunshine had been released, and it was different than Mario 128.  If Nintendo is using Gyros then Marionette is a perfect code name for the game, until a new one comes out.  

Which means a couple of things.

1)Mario for Revolution is most likely deep in development and has been for several years.  And can easily be a launch game.
2)This could mean Nintendo could launch Mario 128 for Gamecube, and Marionette for Revolution with little trouble.


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« Reply #185 on: May 01, 2005, 06:58:11 PM »
Watching G4 they had Cheat MGS3 and Kojima did say hes currently working on some next gen projects... and that others would carry the MGS torch

So i hope he does work with Nintendo. Didnt he say after Twin Snakes that he wanted to work with Miyamoto in the future?  
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« Reply #186 on: May 01, 2005, 06:58:27 PM »
Actually, Spak, the last time I heard "marionette" was concerning the DS online service and WarpPipe, I think... It's vague now, but I think that it was that whole "if you're lost in the woods, how does someone know where you are" or something like that... I can't quite remember all the specifics, though. And I also remember reading that "Marionette" was a character from some online RPG game. (Ragnarok or something) I don't know how this relates to the DS, but I read it in the same page, so w/e

Anyway, I can't remember, but maybe someone else can.
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RE: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #187 on: May 01, 2005, 07:14:51 PM »
I could've sworn marionette was just a name Nintendo filed for.  No one knows what the name stands for.  Some assumed it to be part of those Mario talent series games that were being showcased where you can put your own face in the game and create movement and whatnot, sort of like a glorified Mario paint.  Others assumed that the name was in relation to something online enabled.  Either Nintendo's online service or an online mario game.  
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« Reply #188 on: May 01, 2005, 07:37:30 PM »
I dont remember what Mario-net was really for... but it was somehow part of the clues behind the Warp Pipe thing...
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« Reply #189 on: May 01, 2005, 08:16:51 PM »
Marionette was neither a Mario game or an internet game, according to Nintendo. Methinks it was Perin that squashed that rumor a long time ago. But it was definitely squashed.
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RE:Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #190 on: May 01, 2005, 08:28:21 PM »
no, I meant for you guys to literally look the word up in the dictionary.  it means puppet.
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« Reply #191 on: May 01, 2005, 08:28:25 PM »
I never said it was a mario game.  All I mentioned was that it was debated online as being as such.  As far as I remember, it was a name Nintendo filed for a patent.  Same as the old Star road or starcube names.  Don't know what ever happened to them or if they even mean anything.  I tried googling the word marionette but couldn't find much.
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« Reply #192 on: May 01, 2005, 09:03:14 PM »
marionette

n : a small figure of a person operated from above with strings by a puppeteer

The game Marionette showed up on the Gamecube release list at E3 2001

Miyamoto was quoted saying, ""And as for Marionette, it is still under development. It is not a Mario game, but an actual Marionette game utilizing a puppet. I am hoping to make something both complicated and simple at the same time [with this game], which is kind of a contradiction. But already we are experimenting. And once again, sometime in the future we may be able to show you something on it." (
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N-sider took a swing at what this title may consist of back in 2001 (Link)

What's particualrly interesting to me is the way you control a puppet using strings and how gyroscope controls could be very useful in a game like this.


What Savior was referring too was some ds secret / rumor that started on the Warp Pipe forums.  An overview can be found here (Link)

Also here is a nice interview with Warp Pipe that may or may not be so relavent...but what the heck (Link)

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RE: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #193 on: May 01, 2005, 09:19:41 PM »
Areis mentioned that he couldn't give specifics out about the medium the Revolution would be using. He further commented that it would spoil any surprise left for the consumer.

Why?

Let's just assume everything he's saying is true....what could a disc do to further make the Revolution a Revolution?

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« Reply #194 on: May 01, 2005, 09:58:10 PM »
Yeah, I was having a hard time trying to piece together what I remember of the Warppipe stories and this Marionette.  I seen the videos for the demasked project, the teaser videos, and I never remembered hearing anything about marionette during those discussions.  Those quotes from Myo I don't remember though.  Thats a good find.

As for Aries, he seems to stay mum on the subject of the medium and the power for the wireless controllers.  I can't see how there could be a connection there or how either could make the system revolionary but I can't wait till E3 to see whats really going on.  

As for NobleFeather, I wish he'd come on to see what he has to say about this.  Its strange that we haven't seen him on in a long while (well I havent seen him on)
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RE: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)
« Reply #195 on: May 02, 2005, 03:32:48 AM »
Some guys at Lionhead were experimenting with a marionette-like fighting game. Perhaps Nintendo had a similar idea.

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« Reply #196 on: May 02, 2005, 06:11:18 AM »
Fun Fact: Both Miyamoto AND Aonuma love puppets...
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« Reply #197 on: May 02, 2005, 07:26:22 AM »
Bill, you have always had fun bright images...this new one just doesn't feel like you.  :^(


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« Reply #198 on: May 02, 2005, 07:28:31 AM »
"Let's just assume everything he's saying is true....what could a disc do to further make the Revolution a Revolution?"

Current gaming media has two problems: load times and an inability to save without a memory card.  It would be a pretty big deal if Nintendo could somehow remove these problems without losing the benefits of using optical discs.  That would be something like really cheap cartridges that can hold a couple of gigs and don't cost more than a CD to make.  I assume that would be impossible but things have likely changed a fair bit since 1996.

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« Reply #199 on: May 02, 2005, 07:57:49 AM »
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Bill, you have always had fun bright images...this new one just doesn't feel like you.  :^(

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