Author Topic: The new Pokemon Game for GCN (Read 19780 times)

RahXephon · « **on:** February 16, 2003, 06:04:08 PM »

Alot of you are probably excited and alot of you are probably very upset, but pokemon is head back to the console systems which leads to an important question... what are they gonna do with it? The pokemon franchise is very valuable and very unique, there are many directions they could take this new Game in. I hope it is not another Pokemon Stadium, but soemthing new and innovative. I would like to hear all information you guys have on this new GC release, including the facts and what you would like to see in it.

Plus, what do you think of it being cel-shaded, good or bad?

Taco · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2003, 06:11:16 PM »

I think we will have to wait for anything official, but I hope it is cel-shaded becuase it would tie in more with the cartons.

RahXephon · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2003, 06:14:41 PM »

i believe number 1 priority is Online, the game is a battling game, we need human opponents.

TheResidentEvil · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2003, 06:15:16 PM »

MMORP (Online RPG) 3d, huge areas, tons of pokemon everywhere, tons of quest, hell yes.

MaxXUnlimited · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:15:24 PM »

I don't know, An online Pokemon game would be pretty cool, but with online gaming comes hacking and Lag. I always thought Pokemon was cooler than that. But of course the way pokemon is set up would make the perfect online game. And of course this is Nintendo we're talking about^^ PSO was done perfectly on the GCN!! So there's little doubt in my mind that it would be a bad online game.

I just hope it can connect with Ruby and Saphire^_^

Chris150 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:47:55 PM »

I believe there was a thread about pokemon GC already but i'll post my ideas here too.

First off a headset is a must. You could talk to other players by using a keyboard or headset. Also when you command your pokemon you can yell out orders to them that you make. For example you want your pokemon to use tackle. First you enter the pokemon's stats. Then you select tackle. You'll see a list of stats for the move and a couple of options. One will be command. Here you would select a button or enter your own command you say for the move. So you select the latter and a little recording thing comes up. You say tackle and during battle if you say tackle your pokemon will do so. Of course you could say anything you want for tackle...

Another thing would be letting one of your pokemon follow you around pikachu style. You could show off your latest catch or just give your favorite a little break from the ball.

There should also be a rank system. When you first start out you'll be a nobody but after playing alot and winning tons of battles you'll have a rank that fits your battle records. You can be either feared or a joke. You could also be recognized for all the rare pokemon you catch.

About the one-of-a-kind pokemon like Mewtwo, Legendary birds, etc., They should have contests to earn them. These could be battle tournements or a race through a dungeon to be the first to catch it. I'm sure they'll allow more than one winner. Maybe like 10 or something. But the 1st one-of-a-kind captured will be significantly stronger than the 10th.

About battles... As i mentioned above, they could include spoken comands or you just press a button. Pressing a button would have a little penalty though, to even things out. To challenge a person you walk up to them and press A or something. Then you could talk via headset or keyboard. If you want to battle you could press Y and a prompt would appear confirming this for both players. Then the screen would flash and the battle has started. Your battles would be out in the open, no special battle arena, and you could use the terrain as an advantage. Other players could watch your fight as their passing by. Maybe learn a few tips from more experianced trainers. After the battle is over, the winner would claim half the loser's money and/or the pokemon/item they bet on the battle.

I have a few more ideas for Gym battles... First off, gym leaders would start out with Nintendo people running them. When they get defeated the winner could choose to take over that gym, after getting the badge of course. There would be the customary 8 offical gyms at first, but people can start up their own gyms and if their good enough, could become offical gyms with their very own badge to give out. You could customize the badge as you please (as long as it's appropriete). You could also customize the gym. Have a sort of level creater. You could create the terrain to work well with your favorite pokemon. If yours sorta getting tired of being a gym leader, tough, you have to stick to being one until your defeated. That is if your gyms offical.

Those are some of my ideas. I have a few more but i'll share them another time...

Dark Staedtler · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2003, 08:13:19 PM »

If they did this, they'd gave to make pokemon a hell of a lot more cutomizable, though.
Maybe randomly generated physical traits and some sort of skill selection chart.

Chris150 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2003, 08:42:48 PM »

Ah! you just gave me some more ideas....

You, the trainer, could have special traits. Like your trainer is more power than mind and when you raise your pokemon, they would follow a similar trend. For appearence...COMPLETE customization (is that word?)! More customization than PSO. More than the sims. You choose your face parts, hair (style, color, headwear), clothes ( and not some preset outfits, you choose every sticth), and body parts (want a 6th finger? you got it!). You could fill out a bio about your trainer and other things. Of course...I'm stating the obvious here...Let's move on to more original ideas...which i'll think up in a bit....

I have so many ideas for this game! I just need to refine them a bit.

GoldShadow · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2003, 08:51:58 PM »

Real-time 3D battles. Environmental effects. No random battles if possible. Zelda-style controls outside of battle. National championships w/ real (cash) prizes. Lots of breeding effects such as different colors and other slight variations.

Chris150 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2003, 09:03:39 PM »

Hmm...pokemon with unique traits....That's be awesome.

That leads me to something.... What do you think about your Pokemon having scars and stuff from battles? For instance... Your Mewtwo gets slashed in the eye. You don't go to the pokeomn center for a long time cuz you're Mewtwo is tougher than that right? Well after many battles later you finally decide to let your Mewtwo rest at a center. After he's healed, you come back and what's this? Your Mewtwo still has slash marks on his eye. And they stay there forever. Unless of course you take him to a poke-specialist and get it removed. I like that idea..No one pokemon is the same....

Marcus Arillius · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2003, 03:02:52 AM »

Online would be cool, but it should be optional. I'm not a huge fan of on-line gaming myself, but I like it alright. I think the Pokemon for gamecube should be just like it is on the GBA. None of that stupid Pokemon stadium crap, or pokemon snap. I think Nintendo had reservations about bringing a Pokemon Adventure/RPG (

) to the N64 because of the amount of power needed to support something of Pokemon's size, but with the cube, it should be no problem. And yeah, I actually think cel-shading Pokemon for the cube will be a good idea.

Also, your pokemon should be able to learn an unlimited amount of abilities. (just thought that up)

Kuchakor · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2003, 03:19:36 AM »

I think A,B,X, and Y should be the attack buttons making the game real time instead of turn-based.
And the whole unique/scars idea sounds awesome.
And about the microphone, I don't want to hear EVERYONE, only people i go up to and they agree to talk.

joshnickerson · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:08:43 AM »

I would hope the upcoming GCN game is a full fledged RPG, but I doubt it would be, especially if it comes less than a year after the release of Ruby/Sapphire, so I figure it will be yet another Stadium game. What I DO hope is that they fix what was wrong with the n64 games, such as the incredibly cheap AI (Honestly, who here has had their Pokemon land Horn Drill three times in a row?) and the lack of Pokemon voices (I want Totodile to say "TO-TO-DIIILE!" not some the noise from the GB game!). Trainer customizing is a must, of course, as well as chatting and taunting with the other trainers during battle. I think a cool visual trick would be to have the character's head pop up in the corner of the screen shouting out an attack like in the show. Also, some sort of battle simulator where you can set the strength of your opponents so your Pokemon could gain experience points.
Of course it should be on-line too. You could have different Pokemon Centers (similar to PSO's starships) that you could go to and chat to other trainers and challenge them to battles. You could even have different arena based on what town the Pokemon Center is. Some random elements could come into play here, such as Team Rocket sticking their nose in, and you and the other trainer now have to team up to fight them.
These would be cool for a Stadium style game, and of course would be used when the full fledged RPG finally comes out. I just think it will be the next next Pokemon GCN game that we'll actually see some RPG/Action goodness.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:26:22 AM »

Don't loose hope for a Full Pokemon RPG. My theory still stands until there is prof other wise that this game that is coming was a tech exercise for Genioun Society, and it ended up being fleshed out as a game much like the much dispised DOA:ExV. Because a Satium game would be a waste of such talent and I think Nintendo wouldn't do that.

As for those who are worried about the fees since online would be very server intensive not to mention the money for prises have to come some where. Read about me theory on the Pokemon Online thread.

TheResidentEvil · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2003, 04:41:29 AM »

"Also, your pokemon should be able to learn an unlimited amount of abilities. (just thought that up)"

Have you never played pokemo? That would ruin the game....

RahXephon · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2003, 05:00:57 AM »

i got an idea, there should be like "parties" you could join. Your favorite Pokemon is grass, join like the GRASS ASSASINS (can ya tell i love PSO). Of course this is optional, but it would be fun to work with a large group. it would establish why online is there in the first place, to allow players to communicate. You could even join team rocket... maybe alot of poisin and stuff would fit. Just one more thing to make you unique in the game.
Chris you got some nice ideas, but while i would love the headset to call out my commands, there would be a problem of chatting. Like someone said, establish a "Talk connection" with like Y or something. That would fit well. Also i believe the battles should NOT just take place on the field, for obvious reasons such as lag and such. HOWEVER people should be able to walk up to 2 pepole who are battling and choose "OBSERVE". Allowing watching, and commenting on the battle.

Oh AND VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOURNAMENTS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLACE BETS. WHY THE FRIG DOESN'T NINTENDO READ ALL OUR IDEAS MAN.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2003, 05:02:48 AM »

Maybe have it so you can learn more but the attack is not as powerful.

Here's a new thought you can learn to make your own pokeballs. You can set different attributes but using different nuts mechanisms and be able the teak those (within certin pereimeters.) That will be a new thing to trade and show off.

BoB007 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2003, 06:45:58 AM »

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"Also, your pokemon should be able to learn an unlimited amount of abilities. (just thought that up.)

Have you never played pokemo? That would ruin the game.... "

NO it wouldnt ... have you ever seen the show .... the pokemon know alot more than 4 moves on the show ...

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:09:20 AM »

Ok you mean mean more than four seperate moves. That would be fine, as long as it not too many. (Like you can forget harden when you metapod turns into butterfry.)

RahXephon · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:11:37 AM »

i actually do think less is better. It makes the pokemon you choose more important. if anyone can a water pokemon could learn fire, it would defeat the purpose of having water pokemon.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2003, 07:31:28 AM »

What he was stating wasn't exactly learning all the techniques available. But being able to have more than four techinques your pokemon can use.

ShockingAlberto · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2003, 09:32:59 AM »

I still think that destroys the strategy. The main difference between your Butterfree and the other guy's is that your's didn't forget Harden in favor of Leech Life. This could signifigantly change a battle. However, if the other guy has one more move in addition to Harden, then the battle becomes dull. Having only four moves supplies variety. Keep in mind, Pokemon is not Final Fantasy. You can't interchange one aspect for another.

As for the online aspect (should it ever exist), I think your character should be allowed to change clothes. Think about it: in the game, all the trainers dress like "Flamethrowers" (who, obviously, use Fire Pokemon), Schoolgirls (cute, normal Pokemon), etc. You could completely throw someone off by dressing as a fisherman and fighting using Grass Pokemon. This would force you to keep a well-balanced, powerful team.

One thing that must be implemented is the ability to end a battle for various reasons. For example: in the link-up Gameboy versions, the battle can not continue until both people make moves. If someone you were battling were to just get up and go to lunch during a battle, you'd be screwed. There should be a three minute wait, where, if the other character doesn't choose an attack, the match will be awarded to you. One of my friend's GBCs ran out of batteries during one of our fights. My game decided to not react. I had to save beforehand, but it was still annoying.

-- ShockingAlberto

JSR · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2003, 09:44:42 AM »

I think it would be cool if you could choose what you want to do. Want to be the next Pokemon Master? Go ahead! How about a Pokemon Breeder? Sure. Want to run a Gym? After enough practice and winning a special battle you’ll be certified by Nintendo. Want to open a store, a Pokemon Center, or a casino? Go right ahead.

See what I mean? Nintendo could just shape the Pokemon world and let you do whatever you want in it (with some restrictions).

Chris150 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2003, 10:08:20 AM »

I want Pokemon MMORPG to be compeltely customizable and all these ideas would make it so. I wish Nintendo would read these forums and hear our ideas....

If the Pokemon GC is another Stadium game i wouldn't be very disapointed... I enjoyed the last 2 stadiums. Forced me to improve my technique alot. But i doubt it would actaully be a stadium.

If there was a pokemon MMORPG..I would want to be a Gym Leader... After I caught every pokemon and raised my team to 100, I thought of how fun it would be for trainers to challenge me to get a badge.

Hmm...That makes me think... In the MMORPG there should be a way to prevent an experianced trainer from battling a newbie trainer. It would be unfair to battle 6 lvl 100 pokemon with your level 5 squirtle. Maybe you start out in a region, and when your pokemon's levels are high enough, you can move on to the next region, but you can't go bakc unless you leave your strong pokemon in the computer. There would be a different computer for each region though. I don't want to get the same feeling of being incredibly weak when compared to another player, like in PSO.

Caterkiller · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2003, 10:14:19 AM »

"NO it wouldnt ... have you ever seen the show .... the pokemon know alot more than 4 moves on the show ..."

That has to be one of the most... There is alot of things wrong with that cartoon, and they don't abuse combos like we do in real life.

Having at least 6 moves with your Pokemon would change the game so much it isn't funny. Theres a reason why there are only 4 attacks per Pokemon in the game. 5 or more attacks, with so many pokemon would leave them way to powerful. It would defenitly ruin the game.

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Author Topic: The new Pokemon Game for GCN (Read 19780 times)