Author Topic: Reggie speaks. 'Nuff said. (Read 9967 times)

Noble~Feather · « **on:** March 05, 2005, 07:38:03 AM »

The interview.

Translated.

GDC looks to be bigger and bigger by the second.

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2005, 07:43:14 AM »

All very good news

Ian Sane · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2005, 08:18:07 AM »

"We'll be talking about online at the next E3."

Hot diggity damn that's good enough for me!

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2005, 08:34:27 AM »

This is why I think Ninty is releasing a new version of the SP with wirless play, to coincide with the revealing of the online plan.

This way there will be two systems available for online, the cheaper (not to mention weaker) GBA SP Online

And the more expensive but also more powerful DS

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2005, 08:40:52 AM »

See that's what I mean about Iwata sucking at delivering news and how REGGIE KICKS ASSASJASODJ!!

Anyways, as humble as Iwata is, he doesn't have to use the pessimistic tone about his own company. Reggie seems happy to show the Rev, while Iwata seems worried or something. This could all be due to the translation, but in almost every qoute Iwata makes....it's like...depressing. /opinion

Good news all around and it's very nice to have something even more to look forward to such as Online, and the Mature titles that could possibly fill out the REV's line-up.

Famicom · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2005, 08:56:45 AM »

Wow that is some amazing news. Almost too good to be true!

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2005, 09:15:32 AM »

Quote
Anyways, as humble as Iwata is, he doesn't have to use the pessimistic tone about his own company. Reggie seems happy to show the Rev, while Iwata seems worried or something. This could all be due to the translation, but in almost every qoute Iwata makes....it's like...depressing. /opinion

I think Iwata is just being an honest realist, I mean if the Rev is as different as its being hyped to be it might alienate developers who are just looking to port games across the platforms.

Though truthfully I don't want developers like that to make games for the Rev.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2005, 09:23:44 AM »

I find it horribly discouraging that they are still trying to go after the mature game market by going the safe route of attaining deals with mature liscences. Yeah I want to see GTA on the Revolution, but then it would be like MGS and RE on the Cube six years too late. Nintendo needs the common sense to realize that the people who buy these types of games are buying them not just because they are hot franchises with quality track records and mature tones, but because we like games that are new. I don't feel Resident Evil, MGS, GTA, and Halo will ever be as hot as they were when they were originally released. The same can be said about the Bond liscence.

Perfect Dark was ill marketed and less accessable than the Bond world; and EA has run the integrity of the Bond franchise as a game through the mud so even if they match the original Goldeneye they have still only matched it.

What Nintendo needs to do is ensure that they match the competition with a supply of mature third party content so they aren't lying when company reps say our sofware lineup is for everyone old and young, and they need to work on some new accessable mature franchises internally, perhaps not a movie liscence this time like Bond on the N64, but the game also has to attain critical acclaim the likes that Halo and Goldeneye recieved when they were first released. Yeah they could go the easiest route in the whole world and put blood in a Zelda game on Revolution, maybe even with cel shading, but what I want to see is that new game come out that people are saying is the next big franchise. I am waiting for that new game to come out that is the next Zelda, Mario, Resident Evil, or Metal Gear. One key thing is it has to be different, and by different I don't mean how Splinter Cell is different.

Iwata may seem doom and gloom to some, but to me he seems right on the money. He is being truthful, the industry is headed in the wrong direction and many developers agree that ultimately this could be another industry crash coming. If Nintendo doesn't do something different, who will? If noone does something different then I'm not going to buy a new console. I have two friends called NES and SNES who keep telling me I don't need anymore remakes of the games I already own on them.

It is about time they gave us a straight answer about online.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2005, 10:26:55 AM »

nemo, where in the interview does it say they'll only be picking up old, crusty franchises? And did you not read that Nintendo would be making their own now? New franchise, or something very old revived at least. MATURE KID ICARUS (Oh, and Geist) They're not making bloody Zelda, you can bet your boots on that.

Overall this sounds really good. I'm liking the possibility of online DS (and other stuff, I suppose, but mostly DS), and hearing they're bringing mature games is good, even if not for me. Though a new franchise could be nice.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2005, 11:20:50 AM »

When's GDC?

nemo_83 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2005, 11:48:56 AM »

Quote
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
nemo, where in the interview does it say they'll only be picking up old, crusty franchises? And did you not read that Nintendo would be making their own now? New franchise, or something very old revived at least. MATURE KID ICARUS (Oh, and Geist) They're not making bloody Zelda, you can bet your boots on that.

Overall this sounds really good. I'm liking the possibility of online DS (and other stuff, I suppose, but mostly DS), and hearing they're bringing mature games is good, even if not for me. Though a new franchise could be nice.

Isn't the speach on the 10th?

In the interview Reggie said they would be going after liscences. That means they may be trying to get existing games series like GTA or Silent Hill or movie liscences. It is not a bad thing, but they are missing the point that they need to make their own large scale mature rated game that can stand beside Zelda. People who are not buying Nintendo right now are looking for the next new thing. Geist is not going to be able to stand beside Zelda. Maybe if we are lucky Geist will be able to stand beside the new Star Wars Republic Commando on Xbox. Geist is original and mature and what I want to see more of from Nintendo. It reminds me of Goldeneye when I look at it. But I still want to see much grander scale game. A mature Kid Iccarus would be nice, but it would be a liscence they are reviving. I don't think we will get blood in Zelda, but it would be the biggest selling game in a long time. I remember when they made all these promises about new franchises and stuff back when they were hyping the GameCube. Pikmin delivered. Pikmin's gameplay, graphics, and design were great, but the game's theme of raising flowers did not sit well with college aged guys as well as a necromancer game would have. Outside of Pikmin though there has not been a serious new contender from Nintendo that is a real game. Nintendo seems to rather use their liscences as an asthetic and then we get games like Star Fox Adventures, Donkey Konga, and Metroid Pinball. I miss the Nintendo that created StarFox, Metroid, Mario, and Zelda. Why have they not created new franchises in the volume they once did?

RickPowers · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2005, 02:30:13 PM »

GDC is next week.

Noble~Feather · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2005, 03:02:54 PM »

Quote
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
MATURE KID ICARUS

Hehehehehehe.

As for Geist, lemme just tell you not to get to hopeful on it... I mean, this is coming from the people who made the Olsen games. >.<

But hey, maybe they can somehow make it AAA. I'd be surprised, however, if they did.

mantidor · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2005, 04:00:22 PM »

O_O Reggie in latinamerica! will he ever come to Colombia? not a chance, he doesnt need too, although xbox and ps2 sell more, Nintendo has the last laugh since piracy is absurd in these two consoles, Ive never even seen someone with an original game for these two... even with the probably dead sales of GC, Nintendo makes more profit than the other two consoles combined.

I dont get you people anyway, Reggie didnt said anything we didnt knew already anyway... and also Iwata was far from being pessimistic, it sounds like it, and with the media giving headlines " Iwata fears third parties will go away" which is an ugly twist of his words, people now think that Iwata believes the revolution will fail, which is completly false.

Now I have to buy the Club Nintendo magazine, which sadly came to my country almost with a whole two month delay! damn mexicans ¬_¬ anyway if he gives some new info and no one has commented on it I gladly will do it ^^

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2005, 04:40:20 PM »

nemo, read that interview a bit more carefully.

"R: Yes. In the case of 'Mature' games we're working internally, as well as with licensees, to make sure that they develop big titles for that segment of people."

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2005, 05:11:54 PM »

nemo, see paladin's post. Reggie says in the interview that they are working on matures games. On par with Zelda? If you set yourself up with expectations that high you'll probably disappoint yourself. Expect a great mature game, but Zelda is considered one of the best game franchises ever made.

I'm not holding the Olsen games against them. Geist will prove what they can do, and I will have no pre-conceived notions of what it will be.
Also:

Quote
A mature Kid Iccarus would be nice

You know I was kidding, right? That would be retarded.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2005, 05:36:21 PM »

Mature Kid Icarus... reminds me of Messiah for some reason. That game wasn't so good.

Djunknown · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2005, 06:25:27 PM »

Quote
O_O Reggie in latinamerica! will he ever come to Colombia? not a chance, he doesnt need too, although xbox and ps2 sell more, Nintendo has the last laugh since piracy is absurd in these two consoles, Ive never even seen someone with an original game for these two... even with the probably dead sales of GC, Nintendo makes more profit than the other two consoles combined.

Probably, but they have little mindshare. I dunno how it is in Colombia, but its next door neighbor Venezuela "Ain't doing so hot."
Ay Caramba chamo!

They gotta do something. Granted, Latin America might be considered a 'minor' territory like Austraila, but they need all the mindshare they can spare (no rhyme intended).

Quote
"R: Yes. In the case of 'Mature' games we're working internally, as well as with licensees, to make sure that they develop big titles for that segment of people."

So if Mario's not shooting hookers, who will?

nemo_83 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2005, 06:27:10 PM »

"Something that Iwata and Miyamoto have seen is that those types of games are exciting, for this reason we'll keep launching them through licensees. For our part we'll keep developing our titles like: Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc. Something we do very well."

He says for their part they will keep doing what they have been doing: Mario, Metroid, DK, etc. He says they will keep launching mature games through licensees. That may mean that they will aquire third party franchises to develop internally like they did with MGS or that they want to aquire movie franchises. The good thing is that he says big games. I am still waiting for Nintendo to release original internally developed mature games that can compete with GTA.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2005, 07:23:49 PM »

Nowhere in that quote does he say that's all they'll be doing. The two quotes don't contradict each other.

Deguello · « **Reply #20 on:** March 05, 2005, 08:40:25 PM »

Reading is FUNdamental, nemo.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #21 on:** March 05, 2005, 09:05:15 PM »

"In the interview Reggie said they would be going after liscences. That means they may be trying to get existing games series like GTA or Silent Hill or movie liscences. It is not a bad thing, but they are missing the point that they need to make their own large scale mature rated game that can stand beside Zelda. People who are not buying Nintendo right now are looking for the next new thing."

I agree with that in general. Resident Evil didn't sell Cubes and it wasn't because Nintendo's for kids or anything like that. It was because Resident Evil is old hat and although it still sells well it doesn't sell systems. Only brand new stuff sells consoles with very few exceptions.

Just looks at some past killer apps:

Genesis: Sonic the Hedgehog was the big seller and he was brand new. A brand new unproven character was seen as Mario's equal after only one game.

SNES: There's debate over what sold the SNES but at the time what got every boy in my class to get one was Street Fighter II. That game played unlike anything we had played before. It was pretty much the start of a new genre.

Playstation: Final Fantasy VII. Technically a sequel but at the time there were no RPGs with the style this one had. Like or not this game changed RPGs forever.

N64: Super Mario 64. Another sequel but again this was complete unlike anything before it.

Gameboy: Pokemon. Brand new franchise coming out of nowhere.

PS2: GTA3. Another sequel but again this was something new. Plus it's not like it sold because of the name brand of the previous games.

Xbox: Halo. It's a concept that's been done before but Halo as a franchise was new.

Sonic Adventure didn't make the Dreamcast a big success and Super Mario Sunshine didn't sell a lot of Cubes. Street Fighter has been largely a niche title since the 16-bit era. Final Fantasy, though still popular, isn't nearly as big as it was on the PS1.

The Revolution could have GTA as an EXCLUSIVE and I'll bet it wouldn't sell systems. GTA is played. There's been three games for it on the PS2. It will probably still sell well but people won't feel the need to purchase a whole console for it. Killer apps are rarely what you would expect them to be. Nintendo's best bet at finding the next 'it" game is to get devs working on non-franchise titles. Only from originality will killer apps arise.

Deguello · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2005, 09:14:44 PM »

You missed Super Smash Brothers Melee! That was a killer app!

I actually agree with Ian. GTA is played out to the max. Unless they can find some way to reinvent or keep the series fresh, I doubt GTA wil have much pull in the next gen. Their current formula, despite having great success with GTA SA selling 12 million, is making the game go stale at an accelerated rate. That forumla being "You steal <vehicle> in <city> in the <decade> while being a <stereotype>." If they can't get a new idea in there besides just upping the graphics then GTA will lose some, if not a whole lot, of its popularity.

"Final Fantasy, though still popular, isn't nearly as big as it was on the PS1."

This really has nothing to do with people just not liking it anymore. Square dicked around with FF this generation with that MMORPG garbage and side-story crap. Even Crystal Chronicles did better than FFXI for the PS2.

Artimus · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2005, 05:45:05 AM »

Street Fighter 2 didn't sell the SNES, it came out way too long after it was popular!

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2005, 06:14:30 AM »

It was Contra, Mortal Kombat, Sunset Riders, Mario Kart (which you forgot to mention), NBA Jam, Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball, StarFox.....as well as SSF:2.

I agree with you Ian, that the only to have a killer app is to re-invent a franchise or make a completely new one. That's why I hope Camelot isn't working on a GS or if they do, they re-invent it.

News:

Author Topic: Reggie speaks. 'Nuff said. (Read 9967 times)