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2 Zelda's on DS?
« on: February 18, 2005, 10:21:41 AM »
Liberation recently held an interview with Eiji Aonuma, who has been working on the Zelda series amd had a lot to say about where Link would be heading on the GameCube and the DS. Eiji Aonuma’s exact words can be found at Jeux-France, but for those who have trouble reading French the main points are:


There will definitely be Zelda game on the DS

The concept of The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords was an experiment for possible DS games, and to see what double screens could produce.

However it would be “shameful” not to have a true Zelda along with a Four Swords-eqsue version, so is that possibly two DS Zelda games already?

The Legend of Zelda for the GameCube is finished, but Nintendo are remaining tightlipped about everything; title, theme, everything. (So no Gates of the Realm. None)

Link’s next adventure on the GameCube will be out in Japan at the end of the year, and “will be very, very beautiful.

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 10:27:25 AM »
...how can the game be finished without a theme?  
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2005, 10:29:53 AM »
It has one, they just won't tell us

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2005, 10:32:04 AM »
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Eiji Aonuma’s exact words can be found at Jeux-France
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 10:38:14 AM »
"The gameplay ideas we came up with for Four Swords provided examples on what kind of games would be possible on the Nintendo DS and what kind of advantages the double-screen would enable. It was all theoretical, but today we realize it's a pity -- a real shame -- that we haven't created a demonstration of a real, great Zelda game for DS."

Sounds more like Aonuma is disappointed that Four Swords inspired the DS, yet a DS version still hasn't been showed...(irony)
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 10:44:25 AM »
I expect to see a first party Four Swords style and a Flagship "traditional" zelda.  Especially with hwo beautiful Minish Cup is (IMO).
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2005, 10:44:55 AM »
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The gameplay ideas we came up with for Four Swords provided examples on what kind of games would be possible on the Nintendo DS and what kind of advantages the double-screen would enable. It was all theoretical, but today we realize it's a pity -- a real shame -- that we haven't created a demonstration of a real, great Zelda game for DS."

Sounds more like Aonuma is disappointed that Four Swords inspired the DS, yet a DS version still hasn't been showed...(irony)




Probably depends on who has the better translation, though in truth I'd be surprised if a "real" zelda game wasn't in development for the DS, wouldn't you?  

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 11:24:17 AM »
I know French... as far as I can make out, the whole quote from Jeux-France means this: "4 swords was an inspiration for making the DS, a demonstration of what games could be done on the DS... so now it would be a damn shame if we didn't make the opposite demonstration: what the DS can do for a real, great Zelda game."

It seems to me that Four Swords DS has undergone a transformation into a better Zelda DS. Who knows, Four Swords might be the multiplayer part.

The rest of the translation is accurate... Zelda GC is already done and will be beautiful, Eiji was 200% involved and it's set after WW.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2005, 12:00:00 PM »
So it's finished? As in 100%? I want it now!!!

Actually, that does make more sense. Target it for a holiday release, and since it's finished, we won't have to worry about any possible delays.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2005, 12:01:59 PM »
Edit: Translation error...Zelda is "coming" not finished...But like that changes the release date!
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2005, 12:03:21 PM »
Still with it only being feburary, if it only needs polish, we shouldn't have to worry about a delay.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2005, 12:22:24 PM »
No, actually, not a translation error, not on my part.

"Le prochain épisode de Zelda conçu pour GameCube est déjà achevé" means "Zelda GC is already done."

If there's a translation error, it's Jeux-France's fault.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2005, 01:14:53 PM »
Ha! I knew it I knew it !  a Full 3D Zelda and the multiplayer spinoff... Cool beans, ill definetly get a new 3D Zelda on the DS I knew Ninty wouldnt disapoint!
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2005, 01:40:05 PM »
Oh dear God, I sincerely hope it isn't 3D. I want a proper 2D Zelda... don't halfass it by switching dimensions and hoping the mainstream is satisfied.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2005, 01:50:29 PM »
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I saw the irony in it, yes
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2005, 03:38:58 PM »
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Oh dear God, I sincerely hope it isn't 3D. I want a proper 2D Zelda... don't halfass it by switching dimensions and hoping the mainstream is satisfied.


Good for you, just buy Four Swords, ill buy a new 3D Zelda. We both can be happy
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2005, 03:53:21 PM »
How about we be even more happy with 2d Zeldas while you and your Zelda fan poser self go pout somewhere...
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2005, 04:06:53 PM »
Fine this "zelda poser" will enjoy the GCN Zelda instead how bout them apples.  Its going to be better than the Four Swords, trackers spinoff junk anyways
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2005, 04:24:44 PM »
Eiji did say it was going to be very, very beautiful...

I'm hoping that means it's going to be celshaded again.

Probably not though... oh well.

As for better than 4 swords... it's 3D, so not likely. Most likely it'll be another OoT... most overrated game ever and epic disappointment after LttP.

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2005, 05:23:39 PM »
Nintendo said they wanted to use cel shading for the 64 Zeldas but didn't have the power to do so. The DS is somewhere in betweeen the 64 and the Cube, so they could use enhanced and stylised graphics similar to OoT or a cut down version of WW's engine.

I'm not too fussed whether or not it's 3D or 2D.

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2005, 05:38:50 PM »
Man, everyone's so damn snippety.  Take a chill pill or something.

Some other intresting tidbits:

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Le prochain épisode de Zelda conçu pour GameCube est déjà achevé mais je ne peux absolument rien en dire de plus


" the next Zelda [concept] for the gamecube is already finished, but I can't absolutely say can't say anyomore"

Brackets mine. Concu is the past tense of "conceive" but I took a more loose translation as concept. Because as you read more:

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Ce prochain grand Zelda, qui fait suite chronologiquement à l'épisode WindWaker, sortira au Japon à la fin 2005.


"This next big Zelda, which follows after [chronologically] after the Wind Waker,  [come out] to Japan at the end of 2005"

the word "Sortira" literally means "Go out" so I took a looser translation here. So the big man is shooting for a late 2k5 release for Japan? That's why it makes sense that they have the concept down of what the next Zelda's going to be like, not that its 100 percent complete.

Also, it may seem Aonuma wasn't lying about this being a sequel to Wind Waker. Maybe it'll be like the releationship betwen OoT and Wind Waker? We'll see.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2005, 05:39:12 PM »
Using toon-shading would be the only thing that would get me to accept a 3d handheld Zelda...There's absolutely no reason to have the same 3d style on both console and handheld...
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2005, 05:45:17 PM »
By your logic, its pointless to make 3D Games on the Ds! i mean theres Mario Sunshine why make Mario DS?


oh and i know its unrelated to the Ds... but the stuff on the GCN Zelda is interesting... after Wind Waker? so its Wind Waker link on Epona? not OOT link?
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2005, 05:48:16 PM »
I think 3d in handhelds is pointless, period...But anyone should realize that playing the same looking game on both the console and handheld is stupid...This is Sony logic you are working with here, BAD...And the REAL Mario DS in dev is 2d...

And yes, it's most likely Wind Waker Link...It's definitely not OoT Link...  
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2005, 05:49:11 PM »
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By your logic, its pointless to make 3D Games on the Ds! i mean theres Mario Sunshine why make Mario DS?

Uh, no. That's your stupid logic that you just made up on the spot.
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oh and i know its unrelated to the Ds... but the stuff on the GCN Zelda is interesting... after Wind Waker? so its Wind Waker link on Epona? not OOT link?

It is Epona? I don't think so.