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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1350 on: May 25, 2005, 07:02:56 AM »
you are all wrong

MM = Alice in Wonderland meets Zelda with a dark mood = best game ever Im an Alice fanboy ^_^

I still hope the timeline to be a misstranslation, I dont want to save a world thats going to get flooded anyway, its so sad

And it sucks so much how both MM and tWW are the most bashed of Zelda games and it must hurt Aunoma's feelings, he is one of the game creators that I admire with my heart and soul for creating such incredible experiences with those two Zelda games. So I hope this new game will shut people up and finally give Aunoma the recognition he deserves.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1351 on: May 25, 2005, 07:38:22 AM »
Actually, I think it would be able to work.  Perhaps Link in TP has to set something up for Link in WW to act upon.  Impossible example: What if it was the Link in TP that shattered and hid all the pieces of the Triforce?

I think that'd rawk, because you're kind of saving the world, and if you wanted to see the real end you'd have to put your masculinity behind you and buy WW.  
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1352 on: May 25, 2005, 07:49:37 AM »
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I think that'd rawk, because you're kind of saving the world, and if you wanted to see the realend you'd have to put your lack of masculinity behind you and buy WW.


fixed ^_^

I like the idea, but the game still will be tragic, a game thats actually darker than MM? I thought that would be impossible, but it looks this game will be able to.

 
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1353 on: May 25, 2005, 07:59:42 AM »
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OoT = LttP + 3D + 4D - 2D - Dark world = greatness.
MM = OoT + mask = good.


Your equations don't return true, assuming mask is positive.

if greatness = greatness then greatness + x > greatness.

therefore MM must infact be greater than OoT.

to illustrate, let:

LttP, 3D, 4D, 2D, Dark World and mask all equal one.

Therefore OoT = 1 + 1 + 1 - 1 - 1 = 1
And MM = OoT + mask = 1 + 1 = 2  
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1354 on: May 25, 2005, 12:21:52 PM »
I never specified exactly how much suck OoT added...

But yeah, I didn't like it as much as LttP. As far as I'm concerned LttP is godly and OoT is just good. I'm not sure why, but it's probably the same reason Warrior Within got bad reviews... the soul of the game was completely missing for me. For some reason it feels like they tried too hard to make Link grow up... I liked Young Link more.

I enjoyed what I played of MM (most of it) a whole lot more... really need to get around to finishing it sometime.

And WW is just as good as LttP for me... I loved that game.

I'm concerned about TP because it seems more like OoT than the other Zelda games, but I'm willing to give it a chance.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1355 on: May 25, 2005, 01:35:04 PM »
mantidor: I haven't noticed much MM bashing.  I think it just got ignored since the N64 was already reaching the end of its life when that game was released.  But if you talk to Zelda fans, it seems like a lot consider it to be superior to The Ocarina of Time.  From what I played, I liked it better, but I'm in the same boat as Paladin - never got around to finishing it.

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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1356 on: May 25, 2005, 01:37:16 PM »
Remember, if you don't have all the masks, you haven't finished it.

Masks > treasure maps.

Masks > Gold Skultullas.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1357 on: May 25, 2005, 02:01:56 PM »
No doubt....

I agree with all those that love MM. It is definitely an over-looked game.

I wish they would of released it on the cube (not re-released it). It would of been sweet to have that game in a cel-shaded style. And then when WW would of came out, people wouldn't mind the change because MM's gameplay and style (the whole apocolyptic setting) would of led the way.

To me, that game is one of the more mature Zeldas. So to combat the "I LOVE HALO 2" cel-shaded image, the story and trailers could of emphasized pending doom (which scares us all, especially when you can see it coming, but can't stop it).

It would of led the way into the cube, with WW to pan out the middle, while TP is released as a finale.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1358 on: May 25, 2005, 02:06:15 PM »
Its true, you must get all the masks Oni Link rocks!

Ive read tons of bashing of MM in many forums, "the time thing sucks","its too hard", "it doesnt feel like a Zelda game", only very recently I found I wasnt the only one who liked it. And its true that among Zelda fans the game is very liked, but so is tWW, while OoT and LttP are universally loved, very deservedly of course, but Id like more of that universal love for the other Zelda games.
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1359 on: May 25, 2005, 04:31:47 PM »
Where's the love for Link's Awakening? Personally, I loved it and I think that it was the deepest (in terms of underlying message) and most original Zelda game.
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1360 on: May 25, 2005, 04:41:29 PM »
I love MM more than any other game ever. It's hard to describe exactly what I love about it, but I guess the best way would be its 'theme'. To me, it has what good books and movies do but what most games don't.

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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1361 on: May 25, 2005, 08:05:57 PM »
OoT=lttp + 3D - bunny link. seriously.  

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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1362 on: May 25, 2005, 09:00:41 PM »
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Its true, you must get all the masks Oni Link rocks!

Ive read tons of bashing of MM in many forums, "the time thing sucks","its too hard", "it doesnt feel like a Zelda game", only very recently I found I wasnt the only one who liked it. And its true that among Zelda fans the game is very liked, but so is tWW, while OoT and LttP are universally loved, very deservedly of course, but Id like more of that universal love for the other Zelda games.


What was so hard about it? I'm struggling to remember any one moment that I had problems with. Except for a power outage whe I was almost finished with the Great Bay Temple. It was a great game with a great mechanic.

Back to TP. I love the idea of saving a land that will be later doomed, (then saved again....). It's similar to Ep III in that no matter what you do the future is inescapable. Evil times are ahead. It's sad, but oh-so intriguing. Or in LOTR speak "We must all do what we can with the time given to us.'

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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1363 on: May 25, 2005, 09:49:58 PM »
Link's Awakening and Wind Waker are both my favorite Zeldas.  In addition to the incredible Zelda gameplay, they've got the style, content, and originality I prefer to the others.  Behind them comes Majora's Mask and Link to the Past, then Ocarina of Time and the rest.  Minish Cap maybe between Lttp and Ocarina of Time.  I've beaten every one of these games, and I love them all, and in roughly that order.
Cel-shading fits Zelda so well, I think, though realism does too.  I like how they've done both, and I hope they continue to.  I think Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening both could look really great cel-shaded, just the style (of story, gameplay, etc) they're done in.

Great new details, too.  It's interesting to hear that not everything is going to be orchestrated, which is what I thought.  It'll be cool to hear what it'll be like, finally.  So far I really, really like what I'm hearing.
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1364 on: May 26, 2005, 01:52:15 AM »
My favourite Zelda is WW, closely followed by the Oracles.....they were definately the greatest experince on my GBC...

I lost my copy of Link's Awakening when i was about 7 so i barely remember anything about it.....
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1365 on: May 26, 2005, 10:03:16 AM »
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Where's the love for Link's Awakening? Personally, I loved it and I think that it was the deepest (in terms of underlying message) and most original Zelda game.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1366 on: May 26, 2005, 10:11:30 AM »
I will go as far to say Ocarina of Time is the best entertainment experience I've ever had. Better than my favorite movie(Braveheart/Starwars) better than my favorite book( The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe) and better than my favorite album(Nas Illmatic). I guess it's because I was in the Navy during Operation Desert Fox and Zelda was so great form me to break the cycle of shipboard life (Talk about boring).

Anyway, can we assume that Ganondorf won't be the main villain in TP. If this happens between OOT and WW wouldn't Ganondorf remember this Link. He clearly remembers the Hero of Time during the events of WW. This leads me to believe that maybe "Dik Lluks" will somehow return but how, and why? I don't even think thats possible being that he was only evil in the other timeline if I remember correctly.
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1367 on: May 26, 2005, 10:26:39 AM »
I think it was confirmed in an interview that Ganondorf would be in the game. But it makes you wonder why he didn't mention this Link in the WW.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1368 on: May 26, 2005, 11:49:30 AM »
Ganondorf confirmed? I doubt it. I also thought the Sixers would get out the first round of the playoffs so what do I know.
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1369 on: May 26, 2005, 12:11:18 PM »
"But it makes you wonder why he didn't mention this Link in the WW"

because tp wasn't even made yet, at first they were going to make ww2 but later (after ww relase) S.M. want a percurl about the intro of ww so there and if I'm worng they he doesn't want to talk about wolf link bite him in the balls for fear of it happen again and in ww when you go under water O_O what you see in the back ground

I like MM ( how do you get the gaint mask after you get the big key in the 4 tempel...??? ) but love LttP much much more (there were no hand coming out of tolet at 1am.) The only zelda I hated was LOZ2 and the cd i one
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1370 on: May 26, 2005, 12:22:19 PM »
Stevey, I find it hard to beleive that they made Wind Waker without already knowing what the next Zelda was going to be about.

If Aonuma and Miyamoto both want to start focusing on the story alot more now, especially in how it ties into the overall timeline, then I would bet money that they had both WW and TP plotted out storywise a long time ago.  

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And I can't shake the feeling that TP wil tie into MM the same way that WW tied into OOT.  I noticed something the other night.  The eye on Midna's helmet looks like the eye on Majora's mask, as has been stated...and her actual eye resembles it as well.

I think Midna made Majora's Mask.
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1371 on: May 26, 2005, 12:34:39 PM »
"I think Midna made Majora's Mask. "

I don't rember but wasn't Majora's Mask made by a cult or something for an evil ritual ? I forgot the intro and never finnish MM  
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1372 on: May 26, 2005, 01:01:01 PM »
"I also thought the Sixers would get out the first round of the playoffs"

And I thought that there would be a hockey season. I also didn't know that Ganondorf would be in the game. Wait, is this based on that IMDB voice actor thing?
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RE: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1373 on: May 26, 2005, 01:06:02 PM »
And the fact that Iwata said in a interview that Ganondorf would be in the game.  
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RE:Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
« Reply #1374 on: May 26, 2005, 03:13:25 PM »
Aunoma confirmed that Ganon would be in the game in oneof the many interviews, but he said the story wont be necesarily the same as in previous Zeldas.
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