Author Topic: LOZ: 2005 (Read 720945 times)

couchmonkey · « **Reply #2250 on:** May 30, 2006, 10:05:45 AM »

I actually now feel that Wind Waker is better than Majora's Mask, but it's a little too early for me to say that for sure, since I haven't finished Majora.

Still, I sound like I'm really dumping on Majora's Mask, but I don't mean to, I think it's a great game, on par with Ocarina of Time, in fact. I just had overly high expectations.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #2251 on:** May 30, 2006, 12:42:38 PM »

I heard someone call Wind Waker half-assed? Nonsense! (Still prefers Wind Waker to Ocarina of Time by a wide margin)

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2252 on:** May 30, 2006, 12:50:38 PM »

Quit expecting things and just finish the game.

When I say finish, I mean get every single mask and item.

Bunny Hood Link makes all other Links impotent.

IceCold · « **Reply #2253 on:** May 30, 2006, 01:34:16 PM »

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I heard someone call Wind Waker half-assed?

That would be Kairon..

mantidor · « **Reply #2254 on:** May 30, 2006, 03:02:59 PM »

TP actually looks for me like a mix of Wind Waker and Majora's Mask plus awesome little details, which makes the game like, I dont know... uber-awesome.

Kairon · « **Reply #2255 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:48:48 PM »

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I heard someone call Wind Waker half-assed?
That would be Kairon..

I proudly admit it!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2256 on:** June 05, 2006, 05:44:10 AM »

Back from my trip to pretty direct-feed screens, how nice! The lighting is pretty unreal, and I really love the color palette for the Twilight Realm...

Requiem · « **Reply #2257 on:** June 05, 2006, 08:08:40 AM »

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I heard someone call Wind Waker half-assed? Nonsense! (Still prefers Wind Waker to Ocarina of Time by a wide margin)

By a wide-margin?

Your sir are nutz!

Kenology · « **Reply #2258 on:** June 05, 2006, 09:29:25 AM »

Wind Waker was by far the least impressive Zelda game ever. It's not even in the same league as OoT, and Aonuma even acknowledges that. He's said over and over again that he wants to make a Zelda game that bests Ocarina of Time. He came close with Majora's Mask, but he took quite a few steps back with Wind Waker.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2259 on:** June 05, 2006, 11:06:31 AM »

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I heard someone call Wind Waker half-assed? Nonsense! (Still prefers Wind Waker to Ocarina of Time by a wide margin)

By a wide-margin?

Your sir are nutz!

Yes, by a wide margin to me as well! It's obviously due to the more powerful hardware, but Wind Waker is far more immersive and atmospheric than Ocarina of Time...And what Wind Waker lacked in dungeons it gained in pure exploration over a vast mass of area, something that Ocarina of Time sorely lacked...

So seeing that Twilight Princess will be taking the best from both games is a very exciting thing indeed...

stevey · « **Reply #2260 on:** June 05, 2006, 11:14:52 AM »

There some really good TP mp3 on gonintendo link and I love the new Overworld theme

and in other news TP seem to have changing season looking at the screens shots

Kenology · « **Reply #2261 on:** June 05, 2006, 11:32:27 AM »

Wow... I can't believe that some people actually prefer Wind Waker to Ocarina of Time. Though Wind Waker was great, it was just too much of a push over -- and brain-dead to boot. Plus the sleep inducing sailing was a bit too much. Not enough land either.

I plan on playing through it again during the summer (I only getting around to it a second time - the longest it's ever taken me to replay a Zelda game), maybe I'll appreciate it more this time around. Though it's pansy challenge more than likely solidifies it as the "worst" Zelda in my book.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #2262 on:** June 05, 2006, 12:47:33 PM »

A Link to the Past is the worst Zelda I've played. Not including the five minutes of Zelda II that I couldn't get past when I was seven.

I love Wind Waker. The combat in Ocarina of Time is boring, limited, slow, tedious. I think Ocarina of Time brought more new elements to the table, definitely, but I think Wind Waker improved upon the formula in many ways, especially with combat.
It's not challenging, but a game doesn't have to be challenging to be enjoyable. Two of my favorite games this generation are Wind Waker and Metroid Prime 2. Lots of people complained that Wind Waker was too easy, and a lot of those same people complained that Metroid Prime 2 was too hard (whereas I pretty much breezed through it).

It's not about how hard. It's about how good.

Kenology · « **Reply #2263 on:** June 05, 2006, 02:27:14 PM »

I heard Retro say that they toned down Prime 3's difficulty because people were whining... Very frustrating.

Don't get me wrong, Wind Waker was great, but challenging battles and puzzles are integral to any Zelda game. Wind Waker collapses in both areas. If people can't beat the game? Tough. That's what strategy guides are for.

The combat in OoT wasn't as exciting *after* playing Wind Waker - I agree.

I think OoT and MM had better soundtracks too.

I never even died playing Wind Waker... that's PITIFUL!!

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2264 on:** June 05, 2006, 02:41:19 PM »

I've never died in OoT, either...

I personally don't see how dying a lot in a game = good game...

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #2265 on:** June 05, 2006, 02:49:25 PM »

I can get through OoT without dieing, but that doesn't make the game easier than it would have been if I died a lot.

If I can't get through an area of a game without always dieing, I will probably put the game away and not come back to it. If I put a game away and not finish it because I found it either too difficult or frustating for no reason other than to create artificial difficulty, then I won't buy another game in the series.

mantidor · « **Reply #2266 on:** June 05, 2006, 07:03:54 PM »

Im a big MM fanboy and find the music of OoT great, but Wind Waker's music was way better.

Requiem · « **Reply #2267 on:** June 05, 2006, 07:16:03 PM »

You guys are all NUTS!

I'm glad TP isn't tailored to you crazy bastards!

LTTP the worst you ever played?! Blasphemy!

Just face it, WW wasn't that great. It had some engaging moments, but nothing competes with OOT's ability to instantly mesmerize it's user. Remember that very first seen with Navi flying around looking for you? Yeah.....the game was amazing from beginning to end.

IceCold · « **Reply #2268 on:** June 05, 2006, 07:24:54 PM »

I strongly disagree that LttP is the worst Zelda game - that's just crazy. It is most definitely one of the top 3.. And I liked OoT's music the best out of the three-D ones (haha); some of those songs are drugs. Song of Storms especially.. Wind Waker's music was nice, but only one or two really stood out. Like the music form Dragon Roost Island, which reminded me of Gerudo Fortress music.

I think OoT is so great because it's a pioneer; all the 3D games stem from it. Wind Waker had a great combat system and style, but, in the end, it took what OoT did and improved on it. With the current control scheme, you really can't ask for anything to surpass OoT in terms of innovation, and you won't be able to get the feeling that you first got when playing OoT. However, the Wii changes everything, and I'm very excited to see how a new Zelda for it turns out, whenever it is released.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2269 on:** June 05, 2006, 07:25:58 PM »

Zelda's an outdated hag.

Outsource the game to Sonic Team to breath new life into it.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #2270 on:** June 05, 2006, 08:49:34 PM »

Heh, Pro666 never gives a serious post unless it has to do with Multimedia.

Besides, link dumps Zelda in TP for some weird looking chick that rides on his back when he's a wolf.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2271 on:** June 06, 2006, 04:30:10 AM »

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Just face it, WW wasn't that great. It had some engaging moments, but nothing competes with OOT's ability to instantly mesmerize it's user. Remember that very first seen with Navi flying around looking for you? Yeah.....the game was amazing from beginning to end.

Smells like a case of nostalgia disease...

mantidor · « **Reply #2272 on:** June 06, 2006, 05:14:40 AM »

Wind Waker had its flaws like Ocarina, A Link to the past and also Majora's Mask, thats undeniable.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #2273 on:** June 06, 2006, 06:00:41 AM »

I'd probably rate Ocarina of Time higher, personally, if it weren't for the too happy attitude and gaping plot holes. I like a heavy dose of melancholy in Zelda games, so my top three, in no particular order, are Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask, and A Link to the Past. The time travel aspect prevented any of the unhappy happenings in Ocarina from feeling permanent or like I had a direct hand in changing them. Contrast that to Majora's Mask, in which a large part of the game was fixing everything that was wrong, including saving the world from impending doom, or Link's Awakening, in which you had to destroy the island and everyone living on it in order to escape.

Wind Waker is somewhere in between. It has a happy-go-lucky attitude about it for the most part, but it also has doom on a grand scale. There's a sense that the entire world is diminished. Ganon's speech is a great example. The game is also incredibly stylish, with excellent cinematic scenes and some tremendously exciting moments, including some great boss battles (though I must say that Ocarina had my favorite boss battles so far).

One of the reasons I'm looking forward to Twilight Princess so much is because it looks like it's going to be chock full of the melancholy attitude I like so much. There's a beautiful sadness in the graphics that I can't really explain. Not to mention the Twilight itself. That's nothing if not suggestive of ending and loss.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2274 on:** June 06, 2006, 06:25:02 AM »

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Wind Waker had its flaws like Ocarina, A Link to the past and also Majora's Mask, thats undeniable.

Well, obviously...There isn't a single game that can be considered perfect...(Except Link's Awakening!)

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