Author Topic: LOZ: 2005 (Read 572289 times)

odifiend · « **Reply #100 on:** November 28, 2004, 06:28:31 PM »

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Originally posted by: Deguello
I like GBA/GC Connecitivity with Mario Golf, so die.

Unlocking trainede characters? If so, it has been done by its predecessor, but better because it didn't involve batteries.

Can not wait for this Zelda game! Any Zelda game gets me excited

. Can't wait for that thrust combo seen in the teaser. I may have missed it if it was mentioned already, but I wonder if Nintendo will 'sell out' and make this Teen or even Mature a la PoP:WW?

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #101 on:** November 29, 2004, 02:31:59 AM »

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this game is already the best game of all time. i have a feeling it will be delayed though.

its cumin owt 2marow dident yoo hurr

Looking at our mini-trailer and screenshots, it doesn't look like much water is involved in this game...but if it's using the Wind Waker engine...all I'm saying is I don't want my horse riding like a boat :-P

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #102 on:** November 29, 2004, 06:02:48 AM »

just because its using the same engine doesn't mean it'll play the same. Vampire Maquarades uses the Source engine and it plays nothing like Half-life 2

Ian Sane · « **Reply #103 on:** November 29, 2004, 06:48:24 AM »

"I may have missed it if it was mentioned already, but I wonder if Nintendo will 'sell out' and make this Teen or even Mature a la PoP:WW?"

If they do I will break something. Probably something of yours. I have no problem with them changing things up a bit but the new PoP is SO blatant in it's selling out. Making Zelda 'T' wouldn't be so bad. SSBM was rated 'T'. But anything even remotely like Warrior Within would be unforgivable.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #104 on:** November 29, 2004, 08:56:27 AM »

It's Nintendo, I don't think that they willy go that far. There have been rumours, I heard from Brandon on Nintendorks that he chatted with someone on Planet Gamecube (I think Jonathan Metts?) who interviewed some folks at Nintendo lately and he was told that they expected the game to be at least T-rated, but that's probably just someone at NOA making sure that the American market is well aware that this won't be another Wind Waker. PGC was supposed to put up the interview, but hasn't gotten around to it, so I guess they accidentally let Nintendorks scoop them a little bit.

But again, I think that was probably some big talk from an NOA employee. It's Nintendo! Miyamoto told us we'd see a more mature Mario and basically nothing changed - if anything the recent Mario spin-offs are cuter than ever. This will still be a Zelda game, it will probably still be relatively innocent, and it will still be awesome!

Gamefreak · « **Reply #105 on:** November 29, 2004, 09:09:17 PM »

Ok, in the interview they said the N64 Smash Bros. "barely" got and E, so they were sure Melee would get a T and planned their marketing around that. They also say lots of stuff about the ESRB and seeing as how they work with the ESRB all the time, i think they're predictions are accurate. They are saying that from what THEY have seen (much more than us, and one of them quickly shut the other one up when the subject came up) it will definately be "at least" a T. Which doesn't surprise me at all. Prince of Persia Sands of Time was T and the new Zelda definately looks more T worthy. And while we have only seen early stuff, Ocarina and Majora had blood (even Wind Waker had something bordering on blood in one place, but no one probably noticed it but me) and I'm guessing the new Zelda will too. And what they said about how cartoon or realistic graphics affects the ESRB a lot, and how much combat their is, yeah it will definately get a T.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #106 on:** November 29, 2004, 09:34:56 PM »

Daisy sure is cuter, and her shorts are QUITE TEH MATURE.

odifiend · « **Reply #107 on:** November 30, 2004, 01:32:28 AM »

"they were sure Melee would get a T and planned their marketing around that. "
LOL. Marketing? For Melee? If only Reggie was around...

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #108 on:** November 30, 2004, 02:51:12 AM »

Yeah...no doubts in my mind, we're looking at a T for this. But I kind of want it to be E. Not that I don't like gore or teen sex (rofl), but doesn't that kick out all the little Wind Waker fans? Then again it'll kind of bring in an older audience...

odifiend · « **Reply #109 on:** November 30, 2004, 03:08:41 AM »

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Yeah...no doubts in my mind, we're looking at a T for this. But I kind of want it to be E. Not that I don't like gore or teen sex (rofl), but doesn't that kick out all the little Wind Waker fans? Then again it'll kind of bring in an older audience...

Right, because everyone obeys ESRB...
Plus those WW fans have had 2 years to get older

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Bill Aurion · « **Reply #110 on:** November 30, 2004, 05:25:23 AM »

Oh please...Even the most casual gamers I know don't look at the ESRB rating to determine whether a game is good or not... =P

"Oi, LOOK! A RAD GAME!"
"What's its rating?"
"E, it MUST SUCK THEN ARG"

SgtShiversBen · « **Reply #111 on:** November 30, 2004, 06:30:35 AM »

I agree with Bill, ESRB doesn't mean crap anymore. I remember when I bought Mortal Kombat 2 back in the day it would have been difficult (used some tactical manuvers for that one), but now it's just like "What? 17 rating? Oh well, here you are little infant still in the womb. HAVE FUN!!"

The thing that saddens me though is at my local GameStop there's this one guy who does enforce the ratings. He tells the parents that there is violence, sex, mild language, what have you, and the parents don't care. One kid was like "THAT'S WHY I LIKE IT!" Ugh, sickens me (although I was the same way some 10 years ago). Oh well, I don't know why I'm ranting. If this game doesn't sell, then that means I don't have to reserve it....unless there's another bonus disc! LE GASP!! BONUS DISC!!

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #112 on:** November 30, 2004, 03:54:22 PM »

I agree with that, but my point is I know a bazillion little kids who love WW, but their parents would never let them touch a T game. And it's no secret the lack of "maturity" turned off a lot of gamers from WW.

Golden Maven · « **Reply #113 on:** November 30, 2004, 06:10:27 PM »

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Oh please...Even the most casual gamers I know don't look at the ESRB rating to determine whether a game is good or not... =P

You'd be surprised...

couchmonkey · « **Reply #114 on:** December 01, 2004, 06:43:23 AM »

The idea that Nintendo has segmented Zelda fans by first releasing an E game and now a T game is interesting...
However, there's not really any way around it. I think Nintendo would have a lot of trouble getting an "E" rating on any realistic Zelda game because no matter how much they sanitize it, it will still have realistic sword fighting and archery. I think the only way to get an E rating is to stay with a more cartoony look (although it wouldn't have to be quite as cartoony as The Wind Waker).
Ultimately, I think it's better for Nintendo to accept the T rating and go through with the realistic game, because my impression is that there's a lot of interest in this game...much more than Wind Waker. Which is kind of disappointing, but I'd rather be annoyed that people are too cool to play the Wind Waker than watching them pass up yet another Zelda game.

norebonomis · « **Reply #115 on:** December 01, 2004, 11:12:24 AM »

i don't care if zelda '05 was made so mature that it got an M rating. i mean, don't get me wrong, i'm not a big fan of excesive amounts of blood gushing all over the place. but if zelda was a bit more mature i think that could definetly help nintendo's "young" image. I"m not saying ALL zelda games. but console zelda's could use a little more sex. maybe violence too. i definetly think that zelda games that aren't main console games should stay with an E rating so we can get the young ones hooked on the big N early.

and erm, a side note... if the revolution is supposed to be a..... revolution without "sitting in front of the TV with a controller" as previously mentioned on this thread. this has led me to also think about the posiblitly of virtual reality. I've played Virtual Reality in some fancy arcades and they have all pretty much sucked. it was kind of like a pipe dream of nerds back in the tron days. the motion sensing was very slow, when you turned your head the world around you would kind of drag to where it was supposed to be.

But with the revolution comming in what? '06? couldn't this really be the time for VR to become norm, (please don't even bring up virtualboy, that is just sad) i found this little interesting article over at engadget basically from what i understand is this company went from your 'basic' 3D LCD that requires you view from a certain angle or 'sweet-spot' then they perfected it, making in 3D from any angle. and put it on a cell phone. Now they have a goggle-type heads up display that is 3D for the phone. i don't really get it. but if this is all happening in japan, and nintendo is japanese...... dammit i want a true 3D zelda.

i think from a development standpoint it would be as easy as programming for another camera angle, then send one image to each eye. duh. i guess what it really comes down too is how much of a dork you want to look like wearing 3D VR goggles on your face. maybe we should just wait for brain or retina implants, so as to save us having to look like geeks. (not that i mind i'm just being observant of humanity's need for practicality and attractivness)

sorry to have ranted. notice how i made paragraphs to save you getting a headache? *whitespace*

:-P

Golden Maven · « **Reply #116 on:** December 01, 2004, 11:19:51 AM »

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but console zelda's could use a little more sex. maybe violence too.

Hum, no. Just no. This upcoming Zelda will already be more violent since the graphics will be more realitic, but sex in a Zelda game? I hope you're joking. I don't see how any game could use " a little more sex". This is the kind of crap that ruins video games.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #117 on:** December 01, 2004, 11:19:55 AM »

"but if zelda was a bit more mature i think that could definetly help nintendo's "young" image."

"console zelda's could use a little more sex. maybe violence too."

I seriously hate you with a passion...I MEAN WTF...W...T...F...

norebonomis · « **Reply #118 on:** December 01, 2004, 11:36:37 AM »

i honestly meant it more of a joke than serious.
please don't hate me. i'm a nice person.

when i say could use a little more sex. i don't mean like, revealing clothes and passionate lovemaking, i mean... like sex as an adjective. more flavor to appeal to a larger audience. BELIEVE ME, I LOVE THE LEGEND OF ZELDA and EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

Berto2K · « **Reply #119 on:** December 01, 2004, 12:26:07 PM »

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i don't care if zelda '05 was made so mature that it got an M rating. but if zelda was a bit more mature i think that could definetly help nintendo's "young" image.

Umm, no. That would tarnish the series more than anything. It would leave Nintendo's hands tied from creativity as well. Everyone and their mother (cept bill

) would only accept something like it for the next game.

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Originally posted by: norebonomis
i think from a development standpoint it would be as easy as programming for another camera angle, then send one image to each eye. duh. i guess what it really comes down too is how much of a dork you want to look like wearing 3D VR goggles on your face.

Then you haven't done much programming. Besides, displaying the one camera angle takes up a lot of processing power when taking in lighting effects especially. Multiply that by 2 and you are looking at needing at least one other processor.

norebonomis · « **Reply #120 on:** December 01, 2004, 12:27:56 PM »

true, i didn't think of lighting, i guess it must be more complex than i had originaly thought in the two minutes it took me to write that post ::rubs sunblock on back::

mjbd · « **Reply #121 on:** December 01, 2004, 12:35:33 PM »

After Smash Brothers Melee got a T rating, it doesnt really suprise me that the next Zelda would get one as well. The direction they are going with this new Zelda game seems a bit for serious, where as WW was more light hearted.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #122 on:** December 01, 2004, 02:19:42 PM »

I saw up Peach's skirt.

What about the rest of you?

T-RATING BANZAI

nolimit19 · « **Reply #123 on:** December 02, 2004, 11:53:32 AM »

games that are rated t would often be rated g or pg if they were movies. i think most parents that care look for the M.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #124 on:** December 02, 2004, 06:36:30 PM »

I don't think G. Wind Waker, which is E, would go as PG, no doubt about it. PG, yes, and PG-13. But the video game system is a little harsher, since it's you doing the violence, not an actor.

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