Topic: Keyboard & mouse for PS2 & Xbox

[BlackNMild2k1]

found in the Liksang Forums there is now gonna be a mouse and keybord setup for Xbox & PS2.

I'm not a 100% sure but didn't Microsoft say that there would never be a mouse  & keyboard setup for the Xbox because they didn't want you to confuse it with a PC?

& it will be compatible with Xbox LIVE!

[Ian Sane]

How does this work if the game itself isn't programmed for it?

I personally hate the idea.  It says "You will be able to enjoy First-Person Shooters (FPS), or any other game where targeting is important, the way they are meant to be played."  A console FPS, with CONSOLE being the key word, is not meant to be played with a mouse/keyboard.  If it was it wouldn't be made for a console.  It would be a PC game.  Odds are if you play console first person shooters you're looking for something different than PC first person shooters.  You're willing to sacrifice accuracy in place of an easy-to-use controller.  Plus one the advantages of playing a console FPS is that everyone is in the same boat.  All you can use are controllers so thus everyone is on a level playing field.  If you don't want to use the keyboard/mouse setup in a PC FPS you're f*cked.  There's too many people that use it so if you're not comfortable with that setup you're going to lose.  On a console that unfair advantage is taken away.

In short consoles provide an alternative way for playing first person shooters.  By adding keyboard/mouse support you are removing that alternative.  It all becomes the same then if you like it or not.

Plus I don't get why people want to use this setup for console first person shooters.  A GOOD console FPS like Goldeneye is designed with the controller in mind.  Changing the setup isn't needed because the whole game is designed around the controller.  Why do I need more accuracy when the game is designed in such a way that the controller provides all the accuracy I need?

I do think that mouse is a good addition to a console for RTS or tycoon games which are currently not very common on consoles.  However I generally feel that PC gaming and console gaming are different for a reason and there's no reason to blur them together.  PC gamers like PC games & console gamers like console games.  So don't alter console games for PC gamers or PC games for console gamers.

[seen33]

your whole argument is obsurde.  There not discontinuing the controller... now u have a choice.  I was a master at goldeneye with the controller.. but that game had the biggest ammount of autoaim ever in this life time and u couldent jump.  in games like halo 2 theres MANY multi levels and people jump left and right.  those c buttons ould never work in that situation cause u need to be aiming up and down to often.

I love halo for my PC and am glad for this news since I cant stand halo on xbox cause of the controller.  ITs not like back in the day with goldeneye... so often in tight corners I have to concentrate so hard on my movement/aiming that I cant even think properly.  Also.. with the controller you are limited.  Try jumping, turning  90 degrees, aiming up, smacking a player and tossing a gernade all before u hit the ground.  In halo with the controller this is IMPOSSIBLE.. theres no arguing.  u cant physicaly push the face button while your thumb is on the right stick.  Now with KBAM we have eliminated this.  so many console players claim they are so good with the controller in FPS..  well if they are then those KBAM users wont matter then will they?

[Ian Sane]

"There not discontinuing the controller... now u have a choice."

In theory you have a choice on the PC was well but not really.  The problem is with playing online.  If everyone is using the keyboard/mouse method and thus has a huge advantage over you your choice is effectively gone.  Your choice is to conform to one method or get your ass kicked.

"Try jumping, turning 90 degrees, aiming up, smacking a player and tossing a gernade all before u hit the ground. In halo with the controller this is IMPOSSIBLE"

A well designed console game shouldn't require you to so something so ridiculous.  Goldeneye not allowing you to jump is a good thing.  It removed a cheap tactic that people abuse.  Including the ability to jump in Halo is a design oversight in my opinion.  If they were truly trying to design the game around the console they wouldn't incorporate any design that would require a keyboard/mouse setup.

[couchmonkey]

I think Xbox has proven itself to the point where Microsoft doesn't need to differentiate it from PCs anymore.  They've sold what, 20 million of them?  Who cares if it's like a PC or not?
A keyboard would be nice to have for online games, but then Xbox has a lot of voice-enabled Live games anyway, I think....guess I should do some research before I make my claims.

[Munky]

It was only time before such a thing was released. And I'm to the point where I don't care that it's released. The way I see it, if a gamer wants to use a keyboard and mouse, then they should play games on the PC.

[MaleficentOgre]

I hate the Idea because those of us who can't afford keyboard and mouse will be forced to aim with a stick that is horribly inaccurate compared to mouse.  When playing online using a mouse gives you a demonically huge advantage over the competition.

[BlackNMild2k1]

The Keyboard & Mouse is only $30.00, how can you afford the $50.00 game, plus online fee (for Xbox) and not afford the keyboard & mouse?