Topic: So my Girl wants to watch Star Wars for the first time!

[Kairon]

I totally dig Lucas and respect his right as the creator of Star Wars and the movies. But I totally blame him as much as credit him for the results.

[GoldenPhoenix]

::rolls eyes at Lucas bashing::

[Kairon]

The man made Greedo shoot first. He deserves what's coming to him.

[DAaaMan64]

The man made Greedo shoot first. He deserves what's coming to him.

QFT

[vudu]

So yeah. Don't assume someone is a bad actor just because he/she couldn't give a good performance in a Lucas film.

Is it safe to assume they have poor judgment just because he/she is in a Lucas film?

[animecyberrat]

Hey I *love* George lucas and EVERY movie he has ever made, except American Graffiti, but that's besides the point.

Jennifer Connelly gave a pretty good performance in Labyrinth,  um, I can't think of any good acting in Willow besides the Brownies, The Indiana Jones movies DID NOT suffer the same horrible acting and cheesy dialog as the Star Wars Prequels (of course the had Spielberg on board who is thousands times better than Lucas IMO) and let's see, Radioland Murders, well they had better actors all the way around and it didn't suck, (Even if the dialog was cheesy *that* was a comedy and you can forgive cheesy dialog and bad acting in a comedy)

The idea that the actors were bad *because* they were in a Lucas film, is ridiculous and tells me you haven't seen *ANY* other movies made by Lucas except Star Wars (and if you tell me Howard the Duck was any good were done talking)


Now Lucas wasn't always Director on all of those movies, so maybe that might have had something to do with it, but Star Wars, the original, was damn good and look what he had to work with.

[oohhboy]

I believe that Lucas was effectively insane by the time the prequels came round. Driven mad by his own Ego. The fact that he financed those films himself gave him absolute total control. There wasn't anybody left to say No.

There is no doubt he was talented, as evidenced by his previous work but there has to be some one to say "STOP! That's stupid". Look at the PS3. Ken kicked up a storm of stupid quotes and ideas. The father of the Playstation.

The problem I had with the battle of Endor on the ground was that the turn around was so sudden. Chewbacca steals the AT-ST and suddenly everything is over for the stormtroopers. The troopers go from shooting up bears at an amusement park to OMG the soft toys are after me!!

Look at the space battle. The rebels are on the verge of blowing up the death star and they are still losing people. they only needed a couple more on screen Ewok deaths.

[Kairon]

Now Lucas wasn't always Director on all of those movies, so maybe that might have had something to do with it, but Star Wars, the original, was damn good and look what he had to work with.

Yeah. Lucas didn't direct either Empire Strikes back or Return of the Jedi. It's no coincidence that those movies are beloved.

[GoldenPhoenix]

The way I see it, Star Wars is Lucas's world, it is his creation, it is his baby and to show an extreme lack of respect to the man is showing a lack of respect for his creation, especially over stupid childish stuff like "Oh noes, Greedo shot first!".

[wandering]

The way I see it, Star Wars is Lucas's world, it is his creation, it is his baby and to show an extreme lack of respect to the man is showing a lack of respect for his creation, especially over stupid childish stuff like "Oh noes, Greedo shot first!".

Err...so what if I don't respect Lucas or his creations? You talk as if Lucas's films were handed down by God and are therefore beyond reproach. What do you think Star Wars is, Shadow of the Colossus?

[GoldenPhoenix]

The way I see it, Star Wars is Lucas's world, it is his creation, it is his baby and to show an extreme lack of respect to the man is showing a lack of respect for his creation, especially over stupid childish stuff like "Oh noes, Greedo shot first!".

Err...so what if I don't respect Lucas or his creations? You talk as if Lucas's films were handed down by God and are therefore beyond reproach. What do you think Star Wars is, Shadow of the Colossus?

Well at least you'd be consistent if you dislike both.  My point of contention is how people can be so disrespectful to a man who created a franchise they love. I may not like everything about his Star War films but I respect that it is his creation, not mine, and he can do what he wants to it. Now if someone else came in and took over, I"d be far more critical.

[animecyberrat]

I don't discredit him one bit, read my above post. But the truth is he subjected me to horrible acting and cheesy dialog that hurts my ears when I listen to it. Never mind how I come off on the forums, here I'm a joker, but Star Wars is serious business man.

[DAaaMan64]

I don't know I can think of plenty of guys that have made me materials that I like that I think are douche bags in real life.  Roger Waters of Pink Floyd for example is a douche bag, but he probably created and heavily influenced the best band ever, so I just don't care enough.

[animecyberrat]

It's different with music.

[Kairon]

The way I see it, Star Wars is Lucas's world, it is his creation, it is his baby and to show an extreme lack of respect to the man is showing a lack of respect for his creation, especially over stupid childish stuff like "Oh noes, Greedo shot first!".

I respect the guy. Doesn't mean I have to like it though, &P.

[Ceric]

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Jennifer Connelly gave a pretty good performance in Labyrinth
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Isn't that the movie with David Bowie... Where staring at the girl was the best reason to watch... Well there was a few parts that were good

[Kairon]

It's unfair. Jennifer Connelly is OTHERWORLDLY to watch. She scares me.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

So NinGurl wants to watch Star Wars documentaries!

cuz they're better than the movies and take up less time to watch

[animecyberrat]

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Jennifer Connelly gave a pretty good performance in Labyrinth
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Isn't that the movie with David Bowie... Where staring at the girl was the best reason to watch... Well there was a few parts that were good

Thats the one. And yes that is the best reason to watch the movie, David Bowie is the one who scares me.