Topic: Nikkei Reveals a New Wii Fit and Mario Title

[GoldenPhoenix]

I think a gimmick is bashing Sunshine! Take that

[NWR_pap64]

I think a gimmick is bashing Sunshine! Take that

I never said the game was bad. It had some very inspired moments and hilarious, if very cheesy, cutscenes.

It just didn't feel like the advancement people expected.

Like I've said before what happened with the NES Marios is happening with the 3D Marios...

Mario 64 was groundbreaking and created a foundation for what's to come, Mario Sunshine was a fun sequel with memorable moments but didn't astound anyone and Galaxy blew both games away with an amazing presentation and refined elements.

Super Mario Bros.=Mario 64
Super Mario Bros. 2=Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Bros. 3=Mario Galaxy

[Peachylala]

In contrast both Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy took a while to get released and both saw significant improvements over their predecessors.

Mario Galaxy, yes.

I think I'm the only user here that hates Twilight Sellout with an absolute passion. It's formulmatic, the storyline is overly lame in the second half and the Wolf Link element is so freaking useless. What the hell, are Nintendo's whiny fanboys really this shallow to love that crap? Mario Galaxy, on the other hand, is a masterpeice of imagination. Nintendo wasn't pandering to their whiny fanbase on this game, and it shows.

If they did, it would've been a carbon copy of Mario 64.

[NWR_pap64]

In contrast both Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy took a while to get released and both saw significant improvements over their predecessors.

Mario Galaxy, yes.

I think I'm the only user here that hates Twilight Sellout with an absolute passion. It's formulmatic, the storyline is overly lame in the second half and the Wolf Link element is so freaking useless. What the hell, are Nintendo's whiny fanboys really this shallow to love that crap? Mario Galaxy, on the other hand, is a masterpeice of imagination. Nintendo wasn't pandering to their whiny fanbase on this game, and it shows.

If they did, it would've been a carbon copy of Mario 64.

You're new around here, aren't you? :p A lot of people here hate Twilight Princess with a passion for the reasons you stated.

I personally loved the game but agree about its flaws. What's ironic is that the game seems to have been made to please the fanbase and now very few like it.

Yet, when Nintendo decides to ignore them they are being arrogant and selfish.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[Stogi]

The thing that hurts TP isn't its story or its formula. It's the fans. If TP was your first and only game experience, you would treasure it like I do.

[TJ Spyke]

I don't get how anyone could hate Twilight Princess when it is one of the best games this gen. Is it perfect? No, but it's a great game and one that has to be played by anyone claiming to be a Zelda fan.

[ThomasO]

The thing that hurts TP isn't its story or its formula. It's the fans. If TP was your first and only game experience, you would treasure it like I do.

TP was my first true Zelda experience. I played LoZ on NES for a while back then, but I never got into it. I think the game's amazing, but I hope for a new Zelda where orchestral music is used.

[Peachylala]

You're new around here, aren't you? :p

Fairly... =P

I personally loved the game but agree about its flaws. What's ironic is that the game seems to have been made to please the fanbase and now very few like it.

Yet, when Nintendo decides to ignore them they are being arrogant and selfish.

Nintendo or the fanbase?

[Stratos]

Twilight Princess was a great GameCube game.

[NWR_pap64]

Guys, not to sound rude or anything but we better stop the Zelda talk before the thread gets derailed. Twilight Princess is an alienating Zelda title. You either love it or hate it. We know about that. There's no need to beat a dead horse so let's continue speculating what type of Mario game will be unveiled according to this news than to go on with a debate that pales any debate regarding who shot who first in Star Wars or who was the best Captain in Star Trek.

[Stratos]

OK, Pap, I'm sorry. We did get pretty sidetracked there. Though I was actually afraid we were going to derail into a Mario Sunshine debate there for a second. Funny how it turned so quickly.

Though there are other debates far greater than those you listed. The question of whether Balrogs have wings and who Tom Bombadil was are far greater in my opinion

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Sunshine arguments are the new Toilet Princess arguments.  Enough with the Zelda blah and GET BACK ON TOPIC.

The FLOPP water pack was an unnecessarily complicated way to ruin any platforming finesse Mario had.  Not to mention the scope of the levels was shitty.  Where the **** are my Rainbow Ride clouds?  The bottomless pits?  The amazing platforming situations that require acknowledgement that the game is in 3D?  Using water jets to float from one rooftop to another over a 5min span is not platforming.

[UncleBob]

debate that pales any debate regarding who shot who first in Star Wars or who was the best Captain in Star Trek.

That last one isn't even a debate.  Dr. Frasier Crane is obviously the best Captain in Star Trek.

[Tanookisuit]

I LOVE Sunshine.  I think it's great.  The water pack, I believe, was to address the "kiddy" issue- instead of turning into different animals, mario uses a cool gadget.  And he had short sleeves.  Anyway, I found all the water pack mechanics to be very satisfying, and SMS ran circles around all other platformers up until Galaxy came out.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I loved the water pack because it opened up so many ways to completing challenges. If you wanted to challenge yourself you could choose not to use it (Unless it could only be completed by using it), but if you wanted to find a creative way of getting somewhere that option was there for you. Nothing wrong with choice, and the level designs were quite creative and had tons of unique things to do. It did seem a bit rushed though in places. But even at that you can complain all you want about precision jumping but I think it was a far harder game then Galaxy.  Heck the FLUDDLESS levels are some of the most frantic and challenging 3D paltforming ever. The game has something for everybody.

[Stele]

So... it's both.  NSMB and Mario Galaxy! 

[Mop it up]

Ha, I love it. Usually you say "you're both right" just to settle an argument and move on...