Topic: Game-Boy "Next"

[Cube323]

It's been rumored to be released in 2005, just a year after $ony's Psp.  Serveral hints have already been dropped that Nintendo is already well under way with it's design.

What do you think it will be like?  Will it have cartridges or will it go in the direction of $ony's machine and use optical storage instead?

Plus what do you think of things like wiresless connectivity?  

Also, everyone knows that game companies all like to spy on each other.  It's called corporate espionage.  So you know that Nintendo knew about the Psp probably before anyone in the "so-called" Electronic Video Game Media.

What do you think they will have in store for their biggest competitor?

[Uncle Rich AiAi]

Well, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo had an idea or knew Sony had plans to release a handheld console.

[Cube323]

Your right their AiAi.  That's what intrigues me the most.  You know Nintendo has got to have something special up their sleeves.  Unfortunately, they are such a secretive company that getting any hints on the next GameBoy is near impossible.
All we really know is that they are working on it, and that it will be out possibly in 2005.  Just a year, or possibly less, after the launch of the $ony handheld.  

[Grey Ninja]

I had already figured as much.  Nintendo wants to do something on their consoles that the competition cannot.  GBA is the key to that puzzle.  By interacting with the GameCube, they can do many clever things in their games that the competition cannot even think of doing.  I have no doubt that the next Nintendo handheld will launch alongside Nintendo's next home console, much as the GBA and the GCN were originally planned to.

As for the specs, I would think that Nintendo will still be on a cartridge system, as cartridges are faster, smaller, require less power, and are more durable than optical media.  The handheld will likely have a dedicated 3D chip on it however, allowing it to have vastly superior games to the GBA.  It will probably have a rechargable battery pack, ala GBA SP, with a battery life of about 8 - 10 hours.

I expect a handheld with about the same level of power as an N64, and some sort of weird analog control for it.

[AdvancedGamer]

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
By interacting with the GameCube, they can do many clever things in their games that the competition cannot even think of doing.

What do you mean? You think there's something stopping Sony from connecting the PSP to Sony's next console??? Is their??? I really don't know because if there is they will seriously give Nintendo competition.

[Grey Ninja]

There's no way for the PS2 (the GameCube's competition) to interact with a handheld, as at this point in time, Sony owns the rights to no handheld.  When the PSP comes out, it might interact with the PS3, but I think that it's uncertain at this time whether the PSP will even see the light of day.

[kennyb27]

My question is if it would be a good idea to launch the next GB alongside the next Nintendo home console.  Would it hurt sales or help sales?

[Cap]

i think it would be great if nintendo could launch a portable gamecube along side their next home console. it would make sense, with the small disc size and the lack of a hard drive. the system would be more powerful then anything else on the portable market, and have a large library of games already available(not to mention all the previous gamecube owners who would most likely buy the system). nintendo would probably have to take a hit on hardware costs, but it would be well worth it in the long run(at least in my opinion). i'm pretty sure that even if the costs were too much for nintendo they could ride out the success of the gba until its feasible. no matter how big sonys name may be, they have never had to overcome a userbase of 20 million(just a guess, anyone know the actual numbers?) that doesnt seem to be slowing down.  

[Raising_Hell]

 Hi everyone. I don't think that Sony's announcment of making a handheld was a surprise to many of us, I for one was expecting such a move sometime, the PSOne gave me such thoughts.

I don't think Nintendo will be releasing a new GB any time soon, not even in 2005. It's too soon I think, but on the other handthat's what did the damage before. But still, the handheld market is nothing like the home console market, Nintendo knows this and so does Sony but it's Nintendo who is in the defence now.

I would like to see afew things in Nintendo's next handheld. I'd like to see wireless connectivity or maybe the use of infrared for locan networking. Next I'd like to see some new media but it's not of essence, I'd much rather prefer the new GB to be able to connect with a hard disk or maybe use some sort of memory stick. I want to see something like this cause then we could use the GB to listen to music, view photos or say read a document backed up in such a device. Graphically I want things to remain 2d, just in higher res on 24 bit color, I don't care about 3D. It would also be very interesting if Nintendo could somehow make deals or arrangement so that the GB could probably use emulators. Running MAME on it and playing old games on the road would set the mood for the console. Generally I'd like to see more and better 2d stuff while making an effort to cheat emulators into the deal, and also have the option to use the GB in other ways -like using the HD as I said before.

Thinking of all this it would be rather cool to hear of a new Nintendo handheld soon, but t would kill the GBA too soon, and it would damage the longevity of the handheld market which, I think, is the most important thing.

[Don'tHate742]

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i think it would be great if nintendo could launch a portable gamecube along side their next home console.

Not this next generation, but I'm sure sometime Nintendo will launch some handheld that uses the same medium or is capatible with it.

I remember when Gamecube was about to come out, there was this interviewer that asked, "Will the gamecube medium be used in any upcoming handheld?" Nintendo replied "We can't answer that at this time." So, it is definitly a future possibilty.

EDIT: I don't even care, I am so happy with my GBA: SP......there

[Termin8Anakin]

Nintendo SHOULD release them at the same time.
But then the GBA came out before the Gamecube was released, so I guess they can do that as well.

[Grey Ninja]

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Originally posted by: Raising_Hell
I don't think Nintendo will be releasing a new GB any time soon, not even in 2005. It's too soon I think, but on the other handthat's what did the damage before. But still, the handheld market is nothing like the home console market, Nintendo knows this and so does Sony but it's Nintendo who is in the defence now.

In 2005, the GBA will be 5 years old I believe.  (It's either 4 or 5).  That's definately enough time to release a new handheld, and I am sure that the next one will be backwards compatable if they keep the cartridge medium, meaning the GBA will live an extended life, ala GBC.

[aoi tsuki]

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When the PSP comes out, it might interact with the PS3, but I think that it's uncertain at this time whether the PSP will even see the light of day.

Given the fact that Sony's issued a public release for it, i'd say there's a good chance it'll become a physical product. While they could slip it under the rug, the hype has already started, not unlike the hype for PS2. Remember 60-70 million polys per second and Toy Story graphics?

It's quite possible that PSP could connect to the PS2's USB port or the controller port. Does it seem too late in the PS2's life cycle to add PS2-PSP connectivity? Don't forget the PocketStation which was released late in the Playstation's life. Before you comment on it's level of success, remember that it was wisely never released outside of Japan.

[Nintega]

Grey Ninja, I think when most people say it's too early for another handheld from Nintendo, they probably are referring to the just released GBA SP.  I somewhat agree to a certain degree but I rather Nintendo release another handheld that can compete or overpass the PSP in all aspects and do it right than just to rush out and try to knock the competitor out.  It could backfire.

[Cube323]

I actually believe that the GBA:SP is only intended to have a brief run.  It's a "hold over system" until the real, next gen GameBoy arrives.  GBA:SP in many ways is like GameBoy Pocket, a clever redesign that will be obsolete in two years.

By the way, I love the GBA:SP, and I would own one in every color they make if I could.

It is the perfect, portable gaming device.  

[Stimutacs Addict]

 

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You know Nintendo has got to have something special up their sleeves

i used to believe that Nintendo always had something up their sleeves to surprise us, but too many missed opprotunities have changed my outlook (still love the cube and nintendo to death)

i.e. Wario's World (or whatever its called) should be two player with waluigi and be like battletoads and an option so that the man with the most coins at the end wins
(though Treasure developed the game, but still nintendo coulda recommended it .. multiplayer sells games to casual gamers it seems)

another thing: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles has the potential to be frickin amazing .. but Square needs to have the special info on the GBA screen contain something very important for each character (map and monster info are two great ideas, but the 3rd and 4th players need something equally cool)


ramblings: i wish that someone had made a Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles game with the Lord of the Rings characters, so that you have the Gandalf player as the map holder, Aragorn as the skilled fighter and knowledge of wilderness paths and secret trails that Gandalf doesnt know and where to get healing herbs etc, Frodo as the ring bearer who can (add this for fun) sense Ringwraiths and such (whoever played as the ring bearer would be like the crystal carrier in FF: CC, so everyone would have to stay close to him),  Legolas can see further than the others so maybe he could get a type of enemy indicator on his screen, Gimli could.. do something (im not very creative), Boromir could .. do something as well, and anyone that wanted to play as the other hobbits could do absolutely nothing for the first 2/3 of the trilogy

[Cube323]

Seriously, what you just said has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  I truly think that if all the whiny, Nintendo bashing, haters on this board dislike Nintendo so much, why don't they just go somewhere else?  

(Answer:  they know Nintendo is the BEST, and at least one of this boards participants is actually a low level $ony publicist.  I worked for them in college, they do stuff like that, trust me.  They also invent, imaginary film reviewers, but thats a different story.)

Also, have you even played Final Fantasy:Crystal Chronicles?!  Well, have you?!!!  It doesn't just have the potential to be amazing, it IS TOTALLY F**KING AMAZING!!!!!!  I couldn't put it down at E3, and neither could anyone else for that matter.
And that includes the MANY $ony employes/losers who I say playing the game all three days.

This is the first FF game that I am truly excited about.  And now that Square is heading back to where it belongs, who knows what other hand held marvels we will see on the GameBoy "FUTURE." (The current code name of choice for the next GameBoy)

[Stimutacs Addict]

oh sweet lord no post that I have ever read has brought as much laughter to me as your own, Cube323, mainly in part due to what must be a misunderstanding ... do I really come off as an anti-nintendo minion in my post?  My parents were cable TV and the NES. Don't try to pull this anti-Nintendo stuff on me just because I feel that Nintendo missed some opprotunities (this isn't a cry to leave me alone because "I'm entitled to my own opinion" .. this is the plain truth).

I am dissapointed to admit that I have not yet had the honor to play FF: CC and that all I can offer are my impressions based upon the videos and hands-on impressions that I have seen/read, but already I am trying to fit the game into my budget. Shoot, I am buying a second Game Boy Advance just so my friends and I can play through the game with my little brother (thus having a party of four). I'm spending $150 on this game just to get the best possible experience possible.. i am more than hyped up for it.. I even have had daydreams about what Square-Enix could bring to this game... and having not played too many Square games (since I can't find any of the NES/SNES FF games at any EB Games/Funcoland), I am merely stating that I hope that Square-Enix finds two other good features to have displayed as information exclusive to certain players to really make the game feel like an epic quest, where one player is the leader and one knows monster's attributes and the other two have some other special features (like finding secret places/shortcuts and something else cool)

as to Wario World: I am just dissapointed that it isn't two player, something that I never thought about until I was thinking of battletoads recently and spawned a thought that  someone should make a new battletoads, and then i thought "hey Wario World would be perfect as a two player game"  ..... I'm still looking to renting/buying this game (if i get a job at summer's end then i will buy it ASAP)

I have the right to excersise my thoughts (so long as I do not break the rules.. or at least it should be this way, just wait till I conquer the world) and I wish to remain on these boards, seeing as I visit here for Nintendo News Nightly.

as to the Game Boy More Advanced .. I believe that major announcements should be made just before the PSP hype trains gets really big .. I am obviously not a business expert, but to me this sounds like a good idea, so that Nintendo cuts the hype before it gets too far out of control. However, I have learned not to count on Nintendo to have a majorly exciting announcement or business plan to counter the enemies' tactics. This is my method of keeping myself from getting too excited about things, so that I am more surprised with any announcement made. I really don't want prtable games going 3D just yet.. I would rather get a really nice and brand new 2D Super Mario platformer at the launch of the next Game Boy. Also, wireless connectivity would be cool just so long as the signals can't get too mixed up and whatnot. Some threads talked of having catridges as well as some optical media so that the backward's compatability remains, seeing as that would at least give some advantage to Nintendo (hopefully). I honestly hate Sony for wanting to bring handhelds to 3D and I hate Microsoft for trying to score more cash by joining the game industry (I have a semi-subpar entertaining anecdote about a true XBox moment I had some weeks ago)

[edit] its sorta funny how i get worked up over little things... but it was late when i posted this so that there is no offense taken by anyone

[BlkPaladin]

There is a good chance that Nintendo will release their next handheld before the next console. That is what they did with the GBA.

And with the next console/handheld connectivity will also have the ability to play over the internet since Nintendo should have its plans up for the Gamecube soon.

[Cube323]

Stimutacs, usually I wouldn't read a post that long, but you make some good points.  Forgive me if I seem a bit edgy when it comes to Nintendo bashing.  I am in no way a complete Nintendo "fan-boy."  I just get sick of all the anti Nintendo whining I hear from people on this board.  It seems like $ony fans have nothing better to do than come to rival sites and complain.  I'm at least glad you're not one of that bunch.

As for Wario.  It's at best an average game.   The real star of the show is that peice of video crack entitled "WarioWare."
It's worth owning a GBA just for that game.  Well, that and the upcoming FF:CC.  Who knows what other SquareEnix goodies we might see in the future on GBA?!

Paldin, you may be correct that the GameBoy "Future" could launch before Nintendo's Next console.  I actually think that Nintendo is doing a classic poker players manuver.  They are waiting for $ony to show it's hand with the Psp, and then they will turn around and completely outshine the Psp with their own GameBoy "Future."

[Don'tHate742]

Nintendo mention at the first press conference of the GBA SP that they have been working on it ever since they released the original GBA, and there always looking for ways to modify it and become a very complete portable system. Sorry I have no link.

Its definitly possible they will release one in 2005 or sooner.....so topic end.

[GameCuberZ]

I will be shocked if its backwards compatible with GameCube. They should leave the carts now, for sure.

[Don'tHate742]

The PSP doesn't have a chance in hell if they made the Gameboy "next" becomes backwards compatible with all the past GB-GBA games and GC games. Though that's really hard to develope probably.....


If they do make it compatible with GC, I hope they don't make too many 3d games for it. I would love if they made games like golden sun 2-d but with really impressive graphics, or like advance wars. I now that's not going to happen becuase more people like 3-d games over 2-d, but the thing is, 3-d is alot harder to develope so games can go wrong in so many places.......that's why there are so many more AAA games for the Snes alone than the GC, PS2, and Xbox put together. Also if it were GC compatible, then they would be able to use cel-shading, which I think when done correctly could look really good.

[PIAC]

yeah exactly Don'tHate742, about the 3D with a larger margin of error, i said that ...somewhere else i cant remember well, and its dead true, just look at IGN's top 100 (opinions aside its not hard to see there were way more 16bit console games than current gen, i think there was only 3 current gen games..)