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Originally posted by: redgiemental
I hope you don't feel I am attacking you in any way Jake I'm attempting a counter to your arguments in a hopefully civil tone. I mean no offense.
not at all. i was starting to wonder if i had dreamed up that long post for naught. =)
there are games that get my heart pounding. where i am intent on the screen, sweaty handed, sometimes even shaking, trying to stay alive, intend, damn near AFRAID. but they are never war games. the suffering was one. resident evil. hell, even manhunt 2 has had its moments where i am into it.
the difference is in the technique. survival horror is, as it sounds, about making the possiblity of living scary. you have one mission, live. where in war games, you have to blow up this bunker. you have to take that hill. it becomes an action game.
i guess the real question is: is it unethical to play historical events? not to quote myself, but i still stand by this part:
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But the question was: is this ethical? Moral? Gentlemen and Ladies, children have been playing war games for thousands of years. Adults haven been writing novels, painting, inventing and playing games based on wars for almost as long. This is not new ground, this is not Something Different. We did not dishonor the dead when we lead their imagined legions into battle across the back yard. I do not believe we dishonor them by playing through a level on a video game.
could we ever put the horrors of war in a game? i certainly hope not.
i played lots of starcraft. and one of the things i did at first, as 'general' of this 'army' was to be concerned about each unit on the screen. after all, each marine is a human being i am ordering into battle. i would create rescue parties, and heavy protective forces to keep losses at a minimum. but that isn't the way you win the game. (insert metaphor here)
war games in general are an interesting topic of ethics. is WWII better than say counterstrike, which pits "the good guys" against "terrorists"? battlefield vietnam didn't do so well. i've never heard of any gulf war game getting rave reviews. was that execution? or subject matter? was there an issue with Spartan Total Warrior?
oh, and to clarify, i think that games have given me an appreciation for certain aspects of war. books, movies, etc, have added to this. i would never say that it is the same thing.
personally, i am so tired of WWII shooters... Whatever happened to killing daemons from hell? what was wrong that?
oh and star wars battlefront. which needs a wii edition. now.