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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 09:25:24 AM »
Too true sir.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 09:18:17 AM »
Yeah it was a joint venture. They were supposed to supply Nintendo with 2 RPG's. Never the less the deal was made, I ask why, lol. Business moves from hell.

"Oh for GOSH SAKES. Talk about a false dichotomy, and such a limited scope as to be useless.

Look, I don't know about you hardcore gamers, but I've got one foot in gaming and one foot in non-gaming. I use Everybody Votes RELIGIOUSLY every weekend when I get the chance to, especially since I don't have Wii internet access at my dorms. half an hour's dicking around on that is a great, non-gaming, relaxing, diversion. And I'm still waiting to see if they'll put up my "Do you believe in ghosts/spirits?" question to boot."

False dichotomy? Ghosts and spirits? What if I believe in Vampires? Red and Blue? What about Green? I guess what irritates me most about your post is the overused phrase of false dichotomy not to mention how hypocritical its use turned out to be.  

We can agree Nintendo meant this to be fun. Well, I don't know who finds answering dumb questions fun. Challenge me with something, that's fun.

And yes, less is more in this situation. It narrows the statistics to a limited answer for a direct response question. If the question isn't direct, "like brushing your teeth" then it deserves to be thrown away for how poorly it was written.

How is there a middle ground for online or offline games? People have a preference for one or the other. Sure the question could be worded different like asking preference, but the type of game shouldn't matter that's not the point of the question I presented. And I'll agree that two options is a bit limited, but ground can still be covered with that.

I apologise for any gramatical errors, I am at

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 08:12:06 AM »
Now I used to believe that installed user base was the big thing for a console to achieve. But then I look at developers and some of the strange things they do...

Like Capcom making all those Cube games geared toward PS2/Xbox players.

Or Namco putting Baten Kaitos on a system void of RPGs.

So, in some instances user base means very little...or everything. Developers are weird let's leave it there.

Now you're just avoiding your own comments. Irrelevant? It's only irrelevent because Nintendo said so. You on the other hand said poll statistics aren't a viable resource. They are quite a viable resource.

We're talking about the video game industry here, two choices for a poll is perfectly legit. "Would you rather play a game... Online; Offline?"

Boy, I'd love to see the answer to that one. But Nintendo doesn't have the balls to see what the answer may be.

You can't tell me questions like that aren't useful information, two different answers or fifty. In my 3 years now as a Marketing major I can attest that less questions are sometimes better in certain situations. This being one of them under the guise of an entertaining medium no one would fill out a 30 page survey.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 07:46:24 AM »
Now THAT's insightful. I agree with the market split of hardcore and casual. We are seeing that in Japan right now. Though, that's a good thing since Nintendo created that rift all by themselves.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 07:36:45 AM »
I can't wait for those!


Still it's kinda funny to hear my own arguments echoed back at me after console launch. I made similar points in other forums but I was curious to see what I'd draw out on this one.

The market is yet a fickle mistress, time will tell in the end.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 07:29:22 AM »

If the Wii can't even stay on store shelves without strong 3rd party lineup, what is it going to do WITH a 3rd party lineup?

See, that's all I wanted. An honest answer to a pretty direct question. And I agree Smash as sited with all Nintendo consloes they sell great with just Nintendo games alone.

(that's why I got my Wii)

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 07:17:38 AM »
History points to them being good.

And are you saying Shiggy is wrong then? Was he wrong to call out third parties and tell them to shape up?

You guys are completly missing the point and arguing as if I was a troll or something. Rhoq had some good comments read his.

The fact stands that the Wii is currently being treated as the porathon with waggle console.

I mentioned in my first post that the Wii is a success Smash, but can it last with these shoddy games, or is it their existance that will propell the system? Analize the situation instead of spouting fanboyisms.

Bear, your argument to the EV channel not sufficing as a way to gather statistics is laughable. It's a poll system, not a survey or focus group. There's plenty of ways to understand the consumer and polls are one. Lots of companies use polls as a way to measure the consumers wants.

Don't tell me a channel created for the sole purpose of voting and measuring by country and state is not a plausable way to gather information. That's just outright ignorant.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 06:26:39 AM »
Alright Smash you want good third party games for other systems? Ok, RE5, DMC4, FFXIII, MGS4, Halo 3, GTAIV, and the list could go on.

We all know Nintendo is going to creat amazing games, this is about Third Parties.

The point of this topic is in response to Shiggy's comments encouraging 1st string developers give support to the Wii instead of shoving it on their 3rd and 4th string developers.

Think of Basketball. PS3/360 gets the 5 starters, Wii gets the bench team.

So, respond with some insight instead of concluding that this topic was created to encourage "Doom and gloom" theories.

Also, isn't that what you're doing now Bear? Think about it. You're here on forums discussing problems/solutions to issues Nintendo is dealing with.

So what's the difference if you answer Yes or No with a cuddely and cute Mii on your Wii?

Actually, consumers love giving their support to companies they trust. Ever get a Nintendo survey in your email and not rip it open ready to help out? Boy I do. I love when they ask me what they could be doing better or what's going right or wrong. I feel as though I've helped make my platform a better place for all.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 03:59:01 AM »
Good points.

I guess one point that wasn't addressed was the fact that both UbiSoft and EA have been profiting off Wii substantially. That gold digging mind set could rub off on other (and better) third party developers.

lol, me either. The votes channel could have been great. "Should Sonic be in Smash Bros? Yes or no? But instead we get, "Where would you rather live? A mountain or beach..."

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 03:45:58 AM »
But don't you believe the perceptions of what's acceptable on a handheld are different from a console? I do. Look at the Gameboy Advance and it's Barbie/Insert ABC Saturday morning show game here* games that plauged the system. It ended up selling gazillions anyway.

I think the market on handhelds is different than consoles. I shouldn't have compared the two to begin with.

Consoles seem to gain reputations quicker than handhelds. I'm just worried the Wii's will be damaged by the lack of third party effort.

I'm fully aware of Nintendo's approach. I did a 20 page marketing project on it. They're geniuses in every respect, but they also take the "road most profitable." In regards to the enhancements topic, they will only do it if a profit can be made. You won't see the Wii Light Gun if they think 2 people will get one in other words.

Nintendo Gaming / Third Party Support Hurting Wii?
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:51:56 AM »
They're trying, we all know it. But what are they really doing for Wii? Certainly the UbiSoft and EA games are not what Nintendo had intended for the system. Even Shiggy is crying out for third parties to try harder.

With all these lackluster titles bombarding the Wii, will that hurt its image? I look at the store shelves and see nothing but, "Ports with waggle control right out of the box!" and shake my head in despair.

The Wii is becoming a success. But good games have to sustain it, or it will become a flash in the pan once people figure out developers aren't even trying with this system.

To compare, the DS had a similar problem, but not quite. The DS wasn't bombarded with garbage, instead it just didn't have anything. A year went by and all of the sudden every great game on the planet came to the DS solidifying its success.

But I do wonder though, when I look at the PS2 and how it began. It started out with some of the worst games, and loads of them, and steamrolled over the competition.

So, what do you guys think? Will the consistant flow of steaming poo on Wii garner it a poor reputation? Or, will it be the reason to pick one up due to the sheer volume of games?  

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Hold your Wee for a Wii
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:39:19 AM »
This debate is still going? No one should be blamed for this. The station wasn't out for ill intentions and neither was the mother. This is the very definition of an accident.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:27:59 AM »
Star Fox 64 rules! Well, I wonder if April will see another N64 game. Probably not...

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Miyamoto Checks Third Parties (Well, Sort Of)
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:20:21 AM »
Gee, Nintendo couldn't spell it out any better than saying, "Quit putting crap on our system!" But he's right though. Developers are trying to make a quick buck on Wii while putting their stellar games on PS3/XBOX360 to cover costs.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Left-handed people are left behind
« on: April 03, 2007, 02:14:19 AM »
Honestly, with the advent of Wii and DS there has never been a better time to be left handed. You have full control in deciding which hand to use. It's not like you could turn a controller upsidown just to press buttons in your left hand with a regular controller.

Shiggy doesn't get his every wish. Whatever enhancements may be coming it's safe to say we won't see them for a while if at all. If Nintendo thinks they're making a profit, then they won't rock the boat. They never do. Look at the Wii itself, it was a conservative effort to say the least with a bit of "waggle" involved.

Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread
« on: April 02, 2007, 06:56:16 AM »
Finally, StarFox64. Now Super Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger and all is well in VC land for me.

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