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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 6
« on: June 26, 2006, 07:19:33 PM »
Hey c'mon. Crash didn't get to vote. If he doesn't vote, he dies. I'm sure Crash would like to vote Crimm. (Sorry Crimm)
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 6
« on: June 25, 2006, 06:46:34 PM »
Ok Dasmos, if you want to vote out the mafia and you think Crimm is one of the mafia, then I'll join you and VOTE CRIMM.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 6
« on: June 25, 2006, 05:37:55 PM »
Pale, it's your choice. I'd like to know your reasoning especially since everyone you're voting for is a villager.
Dasmos, I agree that we should be hunting the mafia or Death instead of villagers but as I tried to explain, I've just come to feel that Pale is my best choice. I just don't have any suspicions against anyone else right now. If you have an idea for who is mafia, tell me. I've changed my mind before.
EDIT: I've fallen for the Pale trap. I was looking back through the old threads and I noticed that when Pale votes against someone that person starts to go on the defensive which causes other people to vote against him. Look at what happened to Stabby. I should have said nothing. Still, I have two quick asides to make.
First.
Athrun - Most people who are mafia always make a quick excuse for who they are voting for. For instance, Unclebob's vote against Blackfootsteps:
"I'm going to vote for the first person on Bill's list who hasn't yet posted *and* hasn't had any votes his/her way yet."
Deguello's vote for Hybrid Hunter: At the same time I will vote Hybrid Hunter, because I recently discovered that he sickens me. I'VE SEEN YOU WALKING AROUND TOWN! WITH THIS BEAR!"
Just some quick examples I've noticed.
And then there's this one: "Ever notice how the people who are mafia spend the longest amount of time explaining their votes?"
Funny how none of these mafia members spent a long time explaining their vote.
Second.
If you look through Day 3, you'll notice Pale gives a lengthy explanation as to why he's voting the way he is. Ever notice how the people who are mafia spend the longest amount of time explaining their votes?
Dasmos, I agree that we should be hunting the mafia or Death instead of villagers but as I tried to explain, I've just come to feel that Pale is my best choice. I just don't have any suspicions against anyone else right now. If you have an idea for who is mafia, tell me. I've changed my mind before.
EDIT: I've fallen for the Pale trap. I was looking back through the old threads and I noticed that when Pale votes against someone that person starts to go on the defensive which causes other people to vote against him. Look at what happened to Stabby. I should have said nothing. Still, I have two quick asides to make.
First.
Athrun - Most people who are mafia always make a quick excuse for who they are voting for. For instance, Unclebob's vote against Blackfootsteps:
"I'm going to vote for the first person on Bill's list who hasn't yet posted *and* hasn't had any votes his/her way yet."
Deguello's vote for Hybrid Hunter: At the same time I will vote Hybrid Hunter, because I recently discovered that he sickens me. I'VE SEEN YOU WALKING AROUND TOWN! WITH THIS BEAR!"
Just some quick examples I've noticed.
And then there's this one: "Ever notice how the people who are mafia spend the longest amount of time explaining their votes?"
Funny how none of these mafia members spent a long time explaining their vote.
Second.
If you look through Day 3, you'll notice Pale gives a lengthy explanation as to why he's voting the way he is. Ever notice how the people who are mafia spend the longest amount of time explaining their votes?
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 6
« on: June 25, 2006, 04:24:22 PM »
No. But then, this is the first game I've played.
The reason why I explain my votes is to show that there is an actual reason to vote with me. I'm not just choosing someone and then making something up about them, like how people say a person votes and flees. How do they now what that person is doing? I may not have been right about everything but I've voted the best way I can with the evidence I have available.
Frankly, I don't have any real evidence against you Pale and I'm not saying that you are mafia but there are just some things you've done that bother me. You have to admit your voting record is pretty poor. But also, what bothers me the most, is how many people have posted that your behavior is suspicious. Many have claimed that you are mafia because of it. Your arguement is that your behavior is different because your role is different.
To me, that's a poor reason. If someone always keeps their behavior the same then they're always going to be suspected of doing something underhanded. But if they keep changing their behavior, they're less likely to be suspected. People may think that it is suspicious but because it isn't the same behavior as last time, it's a bit less threatening. Plus, changing your behaviour always keeps people guessing what one's identity is.
I know I may again be seen as over explaining my reasoning but that's the way I am. Plus, I feel you should at least know the whole reason why I'm voting for you. As I've said, I think you may be a villager but my doubts about you have grown a lot lately.
The reason why I explain my votes is to show that there is an actual reason to vote with me. I'm not just choosing someone and then making something up about them, like how people say a person votes and flees. How do they now what that person is doing? I may not have been right about everything but I've voted the best way I can with the evidence I have available.
Frankly, I don't have any real evidence against you Pale and I'm not saying that you are mafia but there are just some things you've done that bother me. You have to admit your voting record is pretty poor. But also, what bothers me the most, is how many people have posted that your behavior is suspicious. Many have claimed that you are mafia because of it. Your arguement is that your behavior is different because your role is different.
To me, that's a poor reason. If someone always keeps their behavior the same then they're always going to be suspected of doing something underhanded. But if they keep changing their behavior, they're less likely to be suspected. People may think that it is suspicious but because it isn't the same behavior as last time, it's a bit less threatening. Plus, changing your behaviour always keeps people guessing what one's identity is.
I know I may again be seen as over explaining my reasoning but that's the way I am. Plus, I feel you should at least know the whole reason why I'm voting for you. As I've said, I think you may be a villager but my doubts about you have grown a lot lately.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 6
« on: June 24, 2006, 06:56:39 AM »
unvote Pale.
He voted for Wandering - villager
He voted for Stabby - Copper
He voted for Frozen Atlantic - Villager
I have a feeling Pale may be a villager too, but even if he is, he's hurting our cause more than he's helping it.
He voted for Wandering - villager
He voted for Stabby - Copper
He voted for Frozen Atlantic - Villager
I have a feeling Pale may be a villager too, but even if he is, he's hurting our cause more than he's helping it.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mavia VI: Moved to the town called Sheol
« on: June 23, 2006, 07:18:12 PM »
Your dead?
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 5
« on: June 23, 2006, 07:13:39 PM »
I was right! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! WHO-HOO! Sure, he's the wrong mafia member but I was still right. This is great! And what is with Frozen Atlantic killing himself? I thought it was tied. Did Mink die or can she only sway the vote once?
EDIT: Why was TYP asking if something should be done? To qoute Pale: Susssspppiiicccciiooouusss. (or however it goes).
EDIT: Why was TYP asking if something should be done? To qoute Pale: Susssspppiiicccciiooouusss. (or however it goes).
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 5
« on: June 23, 2006, 04:36:14 PM »
Well, a quick tally of the votes.
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Blackfootsteps - 5
A rather slow voting day. People must still be mourning the loss of so many people. Also, I notice Frozen Atlantic has my name spelled correctly. Funny what happens when you vote for somebody.
EDIT: Updated the votes. I wonder how many people will withdraw them before the voting is closed in fear of the bomber's apprentice.
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Blackfootsteps - 5
A rather slow voting day. People must still be mourning the loss of so many people. Also, I notice Frozen Atlantic has my name spelled correctly. Funny what happens when you vote for somebody.
EDIT: Updated the votes. I wonder how many people will withdraw them before the voting is closed in fear of the bomber's apprentice.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 5
« on: June 23, 2006, 07:15:53 AM »
VOTE BLACKFOOTSEPS people. On day 2, after it was tied for a moment, MattVDB and Icecold, both fox henchmen, voted for Hybrid and saved Blackfootsteps. I also advise everyone to re-read the posts of day 3 as you will see the rest of my evidence against Blackfootsteps. I just don't think this can be coincidence.
Did some math. There are 7 roles out there, and only one is beneficial to the townies, K. K. Slider. There are just 6 people we have to find to win this game.
Did some math. There are 7 roles out there, and only one is beneficial to the townies, K. K. Slider. There are just 6 people we have to find to win this game.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 4
« on: June 22, 2006, 06:40:44 PM »
Just moving up the tallies.
BlacknMild2k1 - 1
Blackfootsteps - 1
Crimm - 1
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Vudu - 3
Mario - 4
BlacknMild2k1 - 1
Blackfootsteps - 1
Crimm - 1
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Vudu - 3
Mario - 4
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 4
« on: June 22, 2006, 04:59:20 PM »
Well, I thought I should do a tally again, in case anyone is confused about all the voting.
BlacknMild2k1 - 1
Blackfootsteps - 1
Crimm - 1
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Mario - 4
Vudu - 3
It's going to be another crazy night. I should have stuck to my guns. Blackfootsteps is no where and tonight is when Crazy Redd makes his hit.
Also, I must say how impressive it is that Cube has been able to stay so hidden. I thought by now we'd have seen Cube explode or figured out who he his. I think Cube is waiting till the end of the game to try to kill everyone and win it for himself.
EDIT: Updated votes
BlacknMild2k1 - 1
Blackfootsteps - 1
Crimm - 1
Frozen Atlantic - 2
Mario - 4
Vudu - 3
It's going to be another crazy night. I should have stuck to my guns. Blackfootsteps is no where and tonight is when Crazy Redd makes his hit.
Also, I must say how impressive it is that Cube has been able to stay so hidden. I thought by now we'd have seen Cube explode or figured out who he his. I think Cube is waiting till the end of the game to try to kill everyone and win it for himself.
EDIT: Updated votes
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 4
« on: June 22, 2006, 03:24:26 PM »
I really believe Vudu is death. Looking at all his posts over this game, Vudu talks about death alot. No else mentions Death as much Vudu. Since Death is the best townie, I can't vote for Vudu.
Stabby was saying his Copper information wasn't much so he probably only researched townies. But it still bugs me that he continually voted for Pale.
I thought Pale was the Bomber's Apprentice but now that Wandering was revealed to be a villager, I don't think that now. I think the answer here is to target Frozen Atlantic. Pale targeted him for some strange reason. If Frozen Atlantic turns out to be another good guy, we'll know Pale has to go.
I think it will also lead to other answers, so VOTE FROZEN ATLANTIC.
I really hate to do it too because he's using me as a sig. But since my name is misspelled, I guess I can get over it.
EDIT: Just realized this may make me look like I'm trying to save Pale but it's a risk I'll take.
Stabby was saying his Copper information wasn't much so he probably only researched townies. But it still bugs me that he continually voted for Pale.
I thought Pale was the Bomber's Apprentice but now that Wandering was revealed to be a villager, I don't think that now. I think the answer here is to target Frozen Atlantic. Pale targeted him for some strange reason. If Frozen Atlantic turns out to be another good guy, we'll know Pale has to go.
I think it will also lead to other answers, so VOTE FROZEN ATLANTIC.
I really hate to do it too because he's using me as a sig. But since my name is misspelled, I guess I can get over it.
EDIT: Just realized this may make me look like I'm trying to save Pale but it's a risk I'll take.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 4
« on: June 22, 2006, 06:02:17 AM »
Thanks for the vote of confidence Pryo, but I think I'm making a mistake with TYP. I wasn't going to vote for Pale because I felt sorry for him. I knew that if Blackfootsteps wasn't mafia, I'd be looking pretty suspicious. But then I realized Stabby was Copper and maybe knew something we didn't.
I also like Mario's reasoning on Vudu so I'm not sure which one of these two to vote for but I think TYP is innocent. At least for know. So I'm going to think about it and make up my mind after work. See you later.
I also like Mario's reasoning on Vudu so I'm not sure which one of these two to vote for but I think TYP is innocent. At least for know. So I'm going to think about it and make up my mind after work. See you later.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 4
« on: June 21, 2006, 07:55:09 PM »
Death is awesome. I was right. Garnee was a villager. I can't believe Wandering was a villager as well. I'm voting for TYP. I can't give a reason at the moment but I'm really thinking he's mafia. Of course, I'm not really going to try to sway people because no matter how hard I try, no seems to want to listen. Still, I can only hope that everyone else unvote TYP.
Thanks for posting early Bill. Now, I can go to sleep knowing I'm still alive.
Thanks for posting early Bill. Now, I can go to sleep knowing I'm still alive.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 07:44:30 PM »Quote
Thanks anyway to Mint for bringing me back although it seems that you made the wrong choice.
The wrong choice? Could you make yourself look like mafia anymore? However, I did read your post Blackfootsteps and you did make a good arguement about how voting for Super would be dumb. Still, I have a feeling that you could be mafia.
Although, I think you're safe for awhile. There are now new people who I think are more suspicious and I think people are going to be going after new suspicions as well.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 07:26:14 PM »
You fools! How I begged you to stay on topic. That Blackfootsteps was far more threatening. But no! You just had to go voting for Stabby.
EDIT: Hey Garnee didn't post again. He'd dead now. I'm guessing he's another villager which is just great. We're losing villagers fast and the mobs are staying safe. Thank goodness for Death. He's the only one playing a good game.
EDIT: Hey Garnee didn't post again. He'd dead now. I'm guessing he's another villager which is just great. We're losing villagers fast and the mobs are staying safe. Thank goodness for Death. He's the only one playing a good game.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 03:17:48 PM »
Vudu - 3
Deguello - 1
Dasmos - 1
Pale - 2
Stabby - 3
Blackfootsteps - 5
As far as I can tell, this is the current tally. I'm going to be gone now for awhile and probably won't be back till just before the voting is over, so someone else will have to keep the tally going.
Deguello - 1
Dasmos - 1
Pale - 2
Stabby - 3
Blackfootsteps - 5
As far as I can tell, this is the current tally. I'm going to be gone now for awhile and probably won't be back till just before the voting is over, so someone else will have to keep the tally going.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 11:42:34 AM »
Also, just thought I'd give an updated tally. We're at a threeway tie.
Vudu - 2
Deguello - 1
Dasmos - 1
Pale - 3
Stabby - 3
Blackfootsteps - 3
Vudu - 2
Deguello - 1
Dasmos - 1
Pale - 3
Stabby - 3
Blackfootsteps - 3
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 11:38:24 AM »
Stabby, have you not read any of my posts today? I clearly explain why I'm going after Blackfootsteps.
And to say, I'm trying to save Pale is ridiculous. First of all, how could I be trying to save Pale when yesterday, I clearly voted for Blackfootsteps long before Pale had a vote.
Then today, I outlined why I think Blackfootsteps should be voted out and voted for him, long before Zach and you started voting for Pale. In fact, Pale only had one vote along with a few other people. He wasn't in any real danger.
Then, while Blackfootsteps has the most votes against him, Pale all of a sudden recieves a large number of votes, much like yesterday when the vote was tied briefly until Hybrid recieved 4 more votes. Saying I'm trying to save Pale isn't true.
I just can't believe people are letting Blackfootsteps get away again. Frankly, you've got me tempted to switch my vote over to you.
And to say, I'm trying to save Pale is ridiculous. First of all, how could I be trying to save Pale when yesterday, I clearly voted for Blackfootsteps long before Pale had a vote.
Then today, I outlined why I think Blackfootsteps should be voted out and voted for him, long before Zach and you started voting for Pale. In fact, Pale only had one vote along with a few other people. He wasn't in any real danger.
Then, while Blackfootsteps has the most votes against him, Pale all of a sudden recieves a large number of votes, much like yesterday when the vote was tied briefly until Hybrid recieved 4 more votes. Saying I'm trying to save Pale isn't true.
I just can't believe people are letting Blackfootsteps get away again. Frankly, you've got me tempted to switch my vote over to you.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 10:50:31 AM »
Thanks for that Pyro. My biggest fear is that Blackfootsteps isn't mafia because then I'll be a big target for the next day since I seem to be the one most pushing for his dismissal.
Now, I don't want to go confusing anyone but there is one thing bothering me and that's Pale. Pale has four votes against him and Blackfootsteps has 3. What does Pale do? He votes Stabby instead of Blackfootsteps to try to tie and save himself. That I don't get.
EDIT: Ok, Pale just reasoned on that a bit.
Now, I don't want to go confusing anyone but there is one thing bothering me and that's Pale. Pale has four votes against him and Blackfootsteps has 3. What does Pale do? He votes Stabby instead of Blackfootsteps to try to tie and save himself. That I don't get.
EDIT: Ok, Pale just reasoned on that a bit.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 10:42:14 AM »
Stabby - 1
Vudu - 2
Deguella - 1
Dasmos - 1
Blackfootsteps - 4
Pale - 4
I'll just move the current tally down a little. Well, it looks like Blackfootsteps may again be saved. Suspicious?
EDIT: Again, just adding new votes.
Vudu - 2
Deguella - 1
Dasmos - 1
Blackfootsteps - 4
Pale - 4
I'll just move the current tally down a little. Well, it looks like Blackfootsteps may again be saved. Suspicious?
EDIT: Again, just adding new votes.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 10:29:57 AM »
Stabby - 1
Vudu - 2
Deguella - 1
Dasmos - 1
Blackfootsteps - 3
Pale - 4
Just thought I'd post the current vote totals.
Well, if you just select a new godfather, chances are that not every mafia member voted to save Blackfootsteps but I still think a couple did.
The reason Pale keeps voting for wandering is that he's the bomber's assistant and want's Cube's role for himself.
EDIT: Corrected for new votes.
Vudu - 2
Deguella - 1
Dasmos - 1
Blackfootsteps - 3
Pale - 4
Just thought I'd post the current vote totals.
Well, if you just select a new godfather, chances are that not every mafia member voted to save Blackfootsteps but I still think a couple did.
The reason Pale keeps voting for wandering is that he's the bomber's assistant and want's Cube's role for himself.
EDIT: Corrected for new votes.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 10:17:05 AM »
I understand what your saying Vudu but there was no reason to ever suspect or worry about Hybrid Hunter being Cube. I'm sure you have some suspicions on who Cube is. I have some myself. But how high on your suspicion list would Hybrid Hunter be? He's one of the last people I would think of to be Cube. He was a safer vote.
But I'm new at this so let me ask you, if a mafia loses it's godfather, does it disband or can the mafia still vote people out? Because, if the mafia would lose its voting ability, then I could see them voting to save Crazy Redd and keep their power.
But I'm new at this so let me ask you, if a mafia loses it's godfather, does it disband or can the mafia still vote people out? Because, if the mafia would lose its voting ability, then I could see them voting to save Crazy Redd and keep their power.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 09:58:31 AM »
Bill, when you say they get a reprieve until tomorrow morning, does that mean the person will still die tomorrow or does it give that person a chance to vote and live?
Now on another note, I'd like to add something to my suspicions. As I noted before,
"What I find suspicious is the way Blackfootsteps was saved and Hybrid Hunter was killed. Then the person who led the Blackfootsteps charge (SUPER) was killed. Blackfootsteps could be Crazy Redd."
As I was searching through the two days to figure out who didn't post, I found some new information for this suspicion. Yesterday, I voted for Blackfootsteps to make it a tie at 4 votes for him and Hybrid Hunter. After I did this, 4 more votes went to Hybrid Hunter effectivly ending the tie. One of those votes was by IceCold, a fox henchman.
Now, I know it could be coincidence but this is just really suspicious.
Now on another note, I'd like to add something to my suspicions. As I noted before,
"What I find suspicious is the way Blackfootsteps was saved and Hybrid Hunter was killed. Then the person who led the Blackfootsteps charge (SUPER) was killed. Blackfootsteps could be Crazy Redd."
As I was searching through the two days to figure out who didn't post, I found some new information for this suspicion. Yesterday, I voted for Blackfootsteps to make it a tie at 4 votes for him and Hybrid Hunter. After I did this, 4 more votes went to Hybrid Hunter effectivly ending the tie. One of those votes was by IceCold, a fox henchman.
Now, I know it could be coincidence but this is just really suspicious.
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I'M BACK / RE:Mafia VI: Day 3
« on: June 21, 2006, 09:30:47 AM »
Vudu, the sig was a joke. But Pyro makes a good point about the avatar. This was set up from last game! It looks like my cube suspicion could be true.
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