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Nintendo Gaming / RE:They REMOVED "You Spoony Bard!"
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:56:04 AM »
I was flipping through the Feb. 2006 issue of Nintendo Power and on the top of page 85, they state the spoony bard line is still in the game. My guess - it's in the game.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:too many good games
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:49:29 AM »
What announcement tomorrow?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"Knowing" what we "know" now; thoughts?
« on: January 14, 2006, 09:16:17 PM »
Yeah Nintendo will survive but do you ever think, where do we go from here? I mean, you look at all the stuff Nintendo is doing with this console. Internet finally. The Virtual Library. The new Controller. Even the look of the console is Nintendo's most impressive yet. Then there's a fact that there's another surprise. (Which might not be that big..who knows). I wonder where they plan to go after this. I say we start speculating on the console after Rev.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Next Gen. Dreamcast
« on: January 14, 2006, 09:07:55 PM »
Hi Gamebasher.

Let me explain my thought process in response to your question about what I think Sega's faults would be. It's not anything specific but I was just thinking back to the old days of Snes and Genesis.

If you had to choose one console, I would go with the Snes always. While Sega had some good games, to me, now and then, I always felt Nintendo's games were better. Now it might not be fair to compare this because I haven't played Vectorman but let's compare it to Donkey Kong Country. Vectorman was Sega's response to Nintendo's DKC, at least in graphics. Now, I don't know what the gameplay was like but choosing between the two, I'd take DKC. (And I consider DKC to be the worst of the Donkey Kong Countries). The reason is because I look at DKC and you've got characters that show personality. But Vectorman is just a bunch of shapes. At least from what I've seen, again might not be the best comparison.

The reason I bring that up is aside from a couple other notables like Sonic or Shenmue, Sega (at least to me), doesn't quite have this personality. I can't quite seem to find the words to discribe it. The best I can come up with is the reason my brother hates Sega. He always says they try to hard to be cool. Like Sonic Adventure 2 in the opening level of Station Square, they've got song's with lyrics. Or the final boss fight of SA2, the music has singing as well. I understand what he means by that. To me, the Station Square song can be corny and annoying but I do like the final song. So, to me Sega always has this sort of unbalance to it. I like it and hate it at the same time. Sometimes it works to their advantage and sometimes it doesn't.

One more example is F-Zero GX. I absolutely love this game and consider it one of the best experiences I've had with the Gamecube. I think it's outstanding and one of Sega's best games ever. The franchise really seemed to click well with Sega's collaboration. All the unlockables that Sega will throw in a game worked well. They gave each racer a bio and themesong. And again, while I like some songs compared to other, it gave a real good blend of personality. Even the whacked out story was pretty enjoyable. At the same time, people often point to the first scene of F-Zero with Black Bull being confronted by the badguy as one of the problems with Sega which I can only describe again as their trying to be too cool.

So, one reason being that I still feel Nintendo compared to Sega is the better software provider for the most part. The other is the fact that people must of chosen Sony over Sega for a reason and I'm not sure it was just the marketing of Sony. Yes, we can site the way they started to bungle up the release of their consoles as turning people away, but there had to be something from Sony that appealed to people more then Sega. The marketing might have helped but I think games like Final Fantasy 7 and Grand Theft Auto also helped steer people to that choice for a console. I'm not sure that if Sega went back into the console business they would necessarily get games that really seemed to appeal to people so much that would make them choose their console.

I'm not sure if I was able to fully convey my thoughts on the matter that well but it's more a feeling that I have then any real glaring evidence on their part. The truth is, I would consider buying a Sega console if they went back to market but I'd want to wait first and see what games it would get.

Now for some quick points:

I do see them as very much stronger now, and they have thrown in new and innovative games constantly.

I agree with you on this as well. I feel that Sega has really turned around and are much stronger. I know many people who still love the Dreamcast and consider it to be the console released. Most people agree now that it might be Sega's best console though I think for the most part it's pretty close between it and the Genesis. Still, with this sentiment and Sega games keeping their appeal, they are definitly stronger.

I agree with you that it was very kind of SEGA to support Nintendo. Still, I do suspect that, at least in the beginning, it was more a question of making as much money as possible, as quickly as possible, in order for them to break out of the financial quagmire they were in then, after the hardware exit.

That's a good point I never thought of before. Did Nintendo offer Sega some big contract to get the Sonic games on their console? Because Sonic is Sega's biggest money-maker (as far as I know) so it does seem strange that they wouldn't have released all games on all consoles to make as much money as they could. If not, then I think it really shows the support Sega has for Nintendo.

Two other things: If Sega does really support Nintendo, then why do we always seem to hear about Sega and Xbox collaborating? Last year, someone showed a chart of the evolution of controllers since Atari down through to the new Revolution controller. What I found interesting was they connected the Xbox controller as almost the successor of the Sega controller. Also, people always seem to talk about Sega releasing their back catalogue of games on the Xbox360 as a virtual library like Nintendo's doing with Revolution. Sega, I believe has never said that was happening, and has already made some deal with Gametap. But people always seem to think that Sega's more likely to do that then release them on the Revolution?

The final thing was, as I was posting this and referring to the Snes, I was thinking to myself as I often do, that the Snes was Nintendo's best console. I've got the most games for that system than any other Nintendo system. Then it occured to me. Maybe that's because Nintendo and Sega were the market leaders that helped make the games so good. Therefore, you're probably right that Nintendo and Sega leading the market would result in a better market for fans.

That's my novel. You probably weren't expecting something so long but stuff just kept coming to me.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Next Gen. Dreamcast
« on: January 06, 2006, 09:42:07 PM »
I find it interesting how Sega is one of the biggest supporters of Nintendo these days. To me, it just confirms that Nintendo has the right ideas. Sega was at war with Nintendo for all those years and then when they went third party, they could have rejected Nintendo and just worked on Playstation and XBOX. But they've worked with Nintendo and even released all their Sonic games on the Gamecube, aiding Nintendo with their biggest franchise. When you consider how long Sega has been around in the video game market, the fact that they endorse the direction Nintendo has been taking with the DS and the Revolution, puts more weight to Nintendo's stance that this is the direction video games need to go.

I don't think Sega would return to making consoles though. The fact that Sega is making more money now than they did while making consoles would be one arguement against it. I think some of the reasons that Sega lost the console wars are still there and would repeat themselves. Frankly, I'd rather see Sega become a second party to Nintendo. That would be huge. But I doubt that's as likely to happen as Sega returning to consoles.

But I think the market would be helped with a new console maker. However, it should be one that makes games like Sega or Nintendo. I know the complaint's been raised about Nintendo only making consoles that suit their needs and ideas and telling third parties to do it their way. This has been sited as one of the reasons Nintendo has poor third party support. But I don't fully agree with that. Sure, some game developers may resist following Nintendo's direction but I think the real reason is because Nintendo's games are usually better than the other developers. So, people buy Nintendo's games but don't bother with the third party's offerings. Third party decides Nintendo system isn't profitable, I'll go to this other system where I can dump my crap and make more money.

Why are Nintendo's games better? Because they've been making them longer and their system's provide what they need to keep making them of such high quality. Also, Nintendo needs their games to be of high quality to sell their systems. Thus they work hard at making sure their games excel. A third party doesn't have to worry about that and isn't concerned by helping sell a certain console. They just have to make sure the consumer buys their product.

That's the big problem with the game market. Sony and Microsoft aren't really making their own games to sell their systems. They instead try to buy other developers (Rare) or reach exclusive deals with them (Katamari Damacy). They instead use their resources to market and sell their console and leave it up to the developer to innovate or provide a stellar product. That's why we need another console maker that also makes their own games. Because, like Nintendo, they would work hard with their first party titles to help sell their system's and this would result in better games for the market.

Finally, I would just like to say that I don't think Microsoft or Sony are going to bow out soon. In fact, I don't think such a thing would happen until the time of PS4 and Xbox720. I think both are going to battle hard to the end of this generation. And if Xbox does manage to get ahead a bit, then I'm sure Sony's going to try hard next generation to retake it's former position. If it continues to lose more ground during that battle, they probably consider pulling the plug. If Xbox does better this generation, and comes closer to beating Sony or does beat Sony, they'll stick around for awhile. If they only do slightly better, the same or worse, then they may consider pulling the plug at the end of this generation. That's the only way I see one leaving and I still wonder if Bill Gates would be stubborn enough to try for a third time if the latter happens. Now, if Nintendo comes out as the leader and gains as much share as PS2 did this generation, all bets are off.

P.S - I realize this is pretty long and it might be a bear to read but remember - it was also a bear to write. Let's share the pain.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« on: January 06, 2006, 02:08:54 PM »
Mario and BlackNMild2k1 have already posted these numbers on the previous page. The also list which game is which.

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I like communism. Thanks to communism, we have James Bond. And Dr. Strangelove. And Doctor Zhivago. And don't forget M*A*S*H. I'm sure ther's some other things we can thank communism for. There's also a lot we could curse communism for. (Stalin) But it doesn't matter because the Gamecube doesn't come in red.

But the Revolution will! (If Nintendo goes with the colors they've been showing, like red).

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:GC Big Time Drawback
« on: December 26, 2005, 09:06:05 PM »
I agree. One of my first games for the cube was Sonic Adventure 2. I played the game in English for a long time and was going througn the options and decided to switch it to Japanese. And I loved it. The Japanese voices were better sounding than the English ones. Now, I always like to compare languages whenever I can.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« on: December 26, 2005, 08:42:26 PM »
Ign also has an article on this. They also talk about what games Nintendo plans to lauch in the future. The Ign article also estimates that the DS managed to sell nearly half a million units last week alone.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/678/678205p1.html

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Help with my Gamecube
« on: December 24, 2005, 06:04:27 PM »
Yeah, well, my suggestion would have been to beat it down and show it who's boss. Maybe you could explain to me why you decided to fight your Gamecube while you were trying to get it repaired? Seems to me, you'd want to make sure it didn't get more damaged.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« on: December 24, 2005, 05:52:40 PM »
This too is a little off topic, but I also have a friend who's a big fan of Sony but also a real technology lover. He got the DS when it first came out but got bored with and when the PSP came out, he traded in his DS and got a PSP. He thought it was great for awhile. Sometimes we'd argue over the merits of each system and his stance was that the PSP sucks and the DS really sucks. He said that both didn't really have good games but at least with the PSP you can access the internet or download Nintendo emulators. After that time, Kirby, Meteos, Nintendogs, and Advance Wars starting coming out. I bought a DS and another friend of mine bought one as well. We'd get together and play games against one another. We've also both got Mario Kart and play that. We also ask my friend if he's going to get a DS again and join us. He always says if he had money, he would. We let him play the games and he agrees now that the DS has some great games. On a second note, he too is interested in the Nintendo Revolution. He wants to get the PS3 and then the Revolution. He doesn't care about the 360. Frankly, I think Nintendo's strategy is working as a second console. Another friend of mine has the XBOX 360 and he's interested in the Revolution. He doesn't care about the PS3. So, Nintendo going on a different path seems to be working and has got people interested in them again.

Back on topic: WooHoo! Almost 1,000,000 DS sold in a month! That's fantastic. It means more revenue for Nintendo, more people developing for the DS and more games for me!(Most important). It's great to see Nintendo dominating after all those articles talking up the supposed superiority of the PSP.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?
« on: December 24, 2005, 03:21:16 PM »
Requiem:

"Then again, something like this has never happened to a console ever, especially with a game so great and a console so contraversial."

I smiled at that. It's very true and something I've been thinking to myself as I've been reading this topic. What you said is the thing I've been missing. Nintendo wants to have their A-list franchises at launch of Revolution. That's why Iwata is pushing for Mario 128 and has mentioned Metroid and Smash Bros. as launch titles. Nintendo wants a Zelda title also but it takes a long time to make one and they've been working on TP the whole time. They can't switch Zelda to Revolution because of all the promising they made about it beeing on Gamecube. Thus they decide to add Rev functionality and release them close together. That's not a bad solution.

OK, I've changed my mind. Nintendo probably does have more to gain with adding Rev functionality to TP. But I still stand by my original observation that Nintendo still must prove the Rev controls to be better than the Gamecube controls because this game will probably be the biggest comparison between the two.

Also Requiem:

"I think the entire catalog as a whole must prove the REV."

I agree absolutely with this as well. If you look at the DS there's different games that highlight different features. No one game dictates the way everything should be made for the DS. I'm just saying they need a game that paves the way for what Nintendo hopes to accomplish. Like how Mario 64 showed how 3D platformers could work and how you could control the camera. That doesn't mean Mario 64 was the greatest of all 64 games. Other games took those concepts and and tweaked or added things. Even Zelda OoT took some of the concepts of Mario 64. That's what I mean when I say this should not be the game that showcases the Rev control.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?
« on: December 24, 2005, 12:31:17 PM »
All I'm saying is that Nintendo should know that there's going to be comparisons made between the way the game is controlled. They obviously believe in the Rev control that they're willing to do this. And maybe they want people to compare it to the Gamecube controls because they know it will be favorable.

But I do want to respond to something Kairon has said.

"Zelda:TP will be a game that proves that the Revolution can be the home to traditionally epic games. It will give hardcore gamers that sense of security, and it'll give the Revolution a monster title out the front door."

Zelda doesn't prove that Revolution will be home to epic games. Zelda is a Gamecube game. It's being released before Revolution launches. Not with the launch or after. You can argue that with the two being released close together, (provided this news is correct), that Zelda is part of the launch, but I don't consider it as such. It's also going to come in a case marked Nintendo Gamecube not Nintendo Revolution. It will be played first on the Gamecube. You can play it on the Revolution because it is backwords compatible. When an epic game is released for the Revolution and is packaged in a Revolution case, that will prove it is home to epic games.

But that's just some technical points. TP will no doubt be a monster hit and people who buy a Revolution will probably pick up a copy if they didn't own it already. Like Requiem just mentioned, maybe this is a good way to show other companies how to use the Rev remote for games and show people that nothing will be lost in the change of control.

Still, this should not be the game that showcases the Rev control. That should be the next Mario if it gets released in time but that's a different discussion.

Final quick thoughts. Mantidor - I was refering to Ian Sane. He's discussed before about comparisons between Mario 64 and Mario DS and talked about comparisons made between the Rev remote and traditional controls.

Why is that if I type gimm!ck it turns into sparkling innovation?  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?
« on: December 23, 2005, 12:24:58 PM »
This is going to sound a bit like Ian and I'm surprised he hasn't posted something like this yet but here goes.

If Nintendo does make TP Rev compatible, then they are really betting that their contorller will be the new standard. The reason is that TP is going to have comparisons made about it between the way it would be controlled on the Gamecube and the way it would be controlled on the Revolution. This will be something similar to the comparisons made on Mario 64 and the way it was controlled on the 64 versus the DS. In that case, many people thought the DS should have had an analog stick and the DS suffered from that comparison abit.

But if the same thing happens with TP and people prefer the Gamecube controls over the Revolution controls, that is going to hurt Nintendo's stance that the Revolution controller is the new standard. It would probably strengthen the idea that the controller is just a sparkling innovation.

Now, what if the Revolution controls are better? Nintendo gets good exposure by people comparing the two types of control and proving that the Revolution is the best way to play games. People who played it on the Gamecube get to play the game with another sense of discovery. But does adding Revolution functionality benefit Nintendo in any other way? Besides people buying it for the Revolution if they didn't for the Gamecube.

To me, Nintendo has more to lose than gain by doing this, although I could be missing something.

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General Chat / RE: Official Avatar Discussion
« on: December 23, 2005, 11:51:24 AM »
Alright. I got it working now. Thanks for the help IceCold.

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General Chat / RE: Official Avatar Discussion
« on: December 22, 2005, 08:40:59 PM »
Just as I thought. How do I resize my avatar?

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General Chat / RE: Official Avatar Discussion
« on: December 22, 2005, 08:39:22 PM »
And just so that everyone knows, this here is drinking water.

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