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Earthbound Bound for the Virtual Console

by Zachary Miller - May 2, 2008, 1:10 pm EDT
Total comments: 58 Source: ESRB

After considerable VC crap, we finally have something to look forward to.

Ever wonder exactly who Ness and Lucas are from Super Smash Bros. Brawl? They’re characters from an RPG series called Earthbound (Mother in Japan, where the series has a rabid fan base). The series has three games; only the second, for the Super Nintendo, managed to make it to America.

The game recently received an ESRB rating (E for Everyone) for the Wii, so this classic will be on the Virtual Console at some point in the future. The game is widely sought for its rarity, convincing humor, and stylistic design.

Talkback

Nick DiMolaNick DiMola, Staff AlumnusMay 02, 2008

Massive.... Soooooooooooo when are we going to see a release of Mother and Mother 3 here in the States?

nickmitchMay 02, 2008

FUCK YES!!!!!

Edit: If everyone buys this, then maybe we'll finally get Mother 3.

DAaaMan64May 02, 2008

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Earthbound_Bound_coming_out_on_Virtual_Console

Here is the digg story, help me digg it to the front page!

UltimatePartyBearMay 02, 2008

I plan to throw money at this the moment it's available.

Nick DiMolaNick DiMola, Staff AlumnusMay 02, 2008

Quote from: DAaaMan64

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Earthbound_Bound_coming_out_on_Virtual_Console

Here is the digg story, help me digg it to the front page!

Your digg avatar scares me :(

Smoke39May 02, 2008

Quote from: Halbred

Ever wonder exactly who Ness and Lucas are in Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Well, Timmy, they’re characters from an old SNES RPG called Earthbound

Only Ness is from EarthBound.  Lucas is from Mother 3. <_

DAaaMan64May 02, 2008

Quote from: Mr.

Quote from: DAaaMan64

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Earthbound_Bound_coming_out_on_Virtual_Console

Here is the digg story, help me digg it to the front page!

Your digg avatar scares me :(

Glad you noticed! NOW DIGG.

GoldenPhoenixMay 02, 2008

I'll finally get to see what the hype is about.

Ian SaneMay 02, 2008

I'm tempted to go all "doubting Thomas" here and not believe it 'til I see it.  For years this and Super Metroid were those two first party SNES games that everyone begged for some sort of re-release on modern hardware and for some reason never got.  Like when Super Metroid showed up on the VC this will be a HUGE deal.  It would suck for everyone to get their hopes up, only for Nintendo to somehow but the kibosh on the whole thing.  Has the ESRB method always been accurate?  I can't remember off the top of my head but I'm almost certain that at least some VC game got an ESRB rating and then just disappeared.

After this I guess Super Mario RPG will be the first party VC game everyone will be asking for.

Hopefully if this sells really well Nintendo will release Mother 3 here in some form.

KDR_11kMay 02, 2008

Hm, just in time for the new import VC games batch...

Armak88May 02, 2008

I've been waiting for this since the launch of the VC. I was pretty close to cracking and buying a snes cart on ebay... Thank goodness.

So is it worth tracking down a ROM of Earhtbound Zero for NES and playing that to get prepped for this game?

SundoulosMay 02, 2008

Excellent!  I never thought this would happen after the Earthbound demo was ganked from Smash Brothers.  I'm glad I was wrong.

Nick DiMolaNick DiMola, Staff AlumnusMay 02, 2008

Quote from: DrewMG

So is it worth tracking down a ROM of Earhtbound Zero for NES and playing that to get prepped for this game?

Hmm, that's a tough one. I'd say yes, but you might enjoy it more after playing Earthbound, so I don't know (making this post officially worthless :P)

I was actually going to order a copy of EB0 from www.nesreproductions.com but never got around to it.

Ian SaneMay 02, 2008

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So is it worth tracking down a ROM of Earhtbound Zero for NES and playing that to get prepped for this game?

Most North American gamers played Earthbound first without any knowledge of the NES game.  In a way not playing it would be more accurate to what it was like for someone to play it back in 1995.

But then no one actually played Earthbound when it came out.  We'll all lie and say otherwise but for most it was likely discovered years later when the SNES was no longer current.

The staff are celebrating right now behind the scenes.

But like Ian, I'm remaining skeptical. I'll believe it when I see it. Also, where's Zombies Ate My Neighbors HUH?!?!

that Baby guyMay 02, 2008

"EarthBound Zero" and EarthBound's story are connected, but not nearly enough that you should play one to be able to understand anything that goes on in the other.  The three games, though in the same series, were mostly designed so that they could each be picked up and played.

For what it's worth, EarthBound Zero and EarthBound share one character, do not occur in the same places, and little is referenced from the first game to its sequel.  Additionally, remember that EarthBound was released in North America, while EarthBound Zero wasn't, which goes to show that the first game wasn't necessary at all.

Now then, as far as if you should play EarthBound Zero, that's up to you.  EarthBound Zero is an NES RPG.  It's difficult, requires grinding, luck (when you level, your bonuses are decided by the RNG), among other things.  Where to go and what to do isn't always clearly defined, though the story eventually is defined.  It's a great game, yes, but if you ask me, I'd really have to say that the game wasn't translated as well as it should have been, and that it's got several quirks that old RPGs do.  By comparison, EarthBound is much more fun to play.

I suppose, then, my recommendation is to play EarthBound Zero if you really enjoy EarthBound and you want some more after you play it.  I think it deserves to be remade, honestly, in an engine a little closer to its sequels, but that's just me.  In fact, there are fans out there who are working on creating Earthbound Zero in EarthBound's engine, so you may even want to wait how ever many years it would take for that to happen.

As far as that site goes, I'm not all that sure if what he's doing is legal.  Nintendo would certainly say it isn't, but essentially, he's selling roms of games he doesn't own the rights to.  The legalities of free distribution of some of those games is disputed, yes, but selling them, however, is not.  I just figured I'd mention that.


Edit:  And Ian, I actually did play EarthBound way back when.  I discovered Final Fantasy III, Chrono Trigger, and EarthBound all about the same time from rental stores before the N64 came out.  In the end, I was able to obtain used copies of all three when those stores sold their old stock, and I even was able to get a copy of the player's guide that came with EB.  I was pretty happy about that, I must say.  Of course, I'll be honest, and admit that something terrible ruined the Chrono Trigger cartridge, which really saddens me :(

I am compelled to offer some troubling news, true believers.

Just because a game is RATED by the ESRB for the VC does not guarantee it will be released on the VC. There are several games which have been approved but have not been released. However, I somehow doubt that Earthbound will be one of those games, as its fanbase is such that it would make plenty of buck here in the States.

So keep those candles burning, and in the name of Miyamoto, pray for the release of Earthbound...and soon!

Which will we get first? This or Zombies Ate My Neighbors?

matt ozMay 02, 2008

Quote from: Ian

But then no one actually played Earthbound when it came out.  We'll all lie and say otherwise but for most it was likely discovered years later when the SNES was no longer current.

For the record, I first rented it in '95 and bought it in '96.  Probably didn't beat it till '97, because it was my first RPG and I was really horrible at it.

I can't really say that this VC news affects me.  I still have the game and try to play through it once a year on the SNES.  There's no reason for me to buy it unless Nintendo says, "Buy Earthbound on the Virtual Console, and we'll translate and release Mother 3."

Quote from: Kairon

Which will we get first? This or Zombies Ate My Neighbors?

Neither. First we'll be treated to Hey You, Pikachu!

Tuxedo.BondMay 02, 2008

Quote from: Sundoulos

Excellent!  I never thought this would happen after the Earthbound demo was ganked from Smash Brothers.  I'm glad I was wrong.

Wha?

Earthbound was probably my single best Christmas Gift of all time.

That or Ninja Scroll at the tender age of 10.

EasyCureMay 02, 2008

F**K Yeah!!

I'm going to optimistic route on this one fellas

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I can't really say that this VC news affects me.  I still have the game and try to play through it once a year on the SNES.  There's no reason for me to buy it unless Nintendo says, "Buy Earthbound on the Virtual Console, and we'll translate and release Mother 3."

not me, I'm buying it even though i have the cartridge. I wouldn't want to wear out that battery or anything :)

Ian SaneMay 02, 2008

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not me, I'm buying it even though i have the cartridge. I wouldn't want to wear out that battery or anything

I had my friend replace the battery on mine.  Though I'm not the one who killed it in the first place.  I found a used copy and the battery was already dead.  Typically in that kind of scenario I would just return it (this store has a very good warranty policy on used games) but since this was f*cking EARTHBOUND I figured the odds of finding it again were pretty slim so I got it fixed instead.  My instinct was dead on because I've NEVER seen Earthbound in that store since then.  I've seen the Star Fox Super Weekend cartridge there twice (and naturally bought one of them) but Earthbound only once. :)

pyrokamileonMay 02, 2008

WHEN this game finally comes to VC I too will quickly snatch it up!  I am however kinda worried that all the hype may ruin it a little...

CericMay 02, 2008

I'm sure I'll be disappointed but I'm going to pick it up.  Funny thing is we were just talking about this game.  Not the first time this has happened.

This is a game I've wanted to play for a long time, I'll get this one immediately. It's been a good couple days for the VC, with Iwata coming close to confirming a storage solution yesterday and now this.

Bill AurionMay 02, 2008

Quote from: EasyCure

F**K Yeah!!

I'm not really one for a lot of profanity, but these are my sentiments exactly...Mother 1 and 3, too, please...

Okay, maybe I shouldn't get greedy... =(

ShyGuyMay 02, 2008

Give the VC review to whichever staff member dislikes the Earthbound the most. I want a "Not Recommended" rating just for delicious irony. ;)

Bill AurionMay 02, 2008

That would definitely warrant some e-terrorism... >=|

MorariMay 02, 2008

THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED FOR YOUR PROTECTION.

--Bureau of Internet Morality

Smoke39May 02, 2008

ShyGuy is a jerk. ):

ShyGuyMay 02, 2008

Aw come on, I just want more site traffic for NWR! :(

Smoke39May 02, 2008

At the expense of the Mother fandom?  Why don't you exploit some less desperate group for you crazy schemes?  Jerk. ):

Bill AurionMay 02, 2008

Quote from: ShyGuy

Aw come on, I just want more site traffic for NWR! :(

It's all fun and games until you wake up and find a New Age Retro Hippie on your doorstep...

TheFleeceMay 03, 2008

I've heard a lot of talk about this game and it would be cool to see what the big deal is. I thought Zombies Ate My Neighbors was released already, what's the hold up on that?

IceColdMay 03, 2008

Well, it makes sense - there's a bit of a drought coming up for Wii games. Wait a second, but WiiWare is launching soon, right? I predict Earthbound will be released after the initial hype for WiiWare dies down and there aren't many new releases.

Armak88May 03, 2008

Quote from: IceCold

Well, it makes sense - there's a bit of a drought coming up for Wii games. Wait a second, but WiiWare is launching soon, right? I predict Earthbound will be released after the initial hype for WiiWare dies down and there aren't many new releases.

Wrong. Earthbound will be released at the same time as the WiiWare launch, handicapping it's sales. Nintendo will then interpret this as a lack of interest in the series and a failure decisively destroying any plans to bring mother3 over in the future and most likely going on to remove earthbound from the VC, nay, the world.

that Baby guyMay 03, 2008

No, EarthBound will be released at the same time, like you said, however, Nintendo will remove the link to the virtual console off of the Wii Shop Channel at the same time, then blame it on poor sales.  You're not thinking hard enough about this one!

KDR_11kMay 03, 2008

I wonder if Earthbound will get a fireworks icon and come out in Europe...

Quote from: thatguy

As far as that site goes, I'm not all that sure if what he's doing is legal.  Nintendo would certainly say it isn't, but essentially, he's selling roms of games he doesn't own the rights to.  The legalities of free distribution of some of those games is disputed, yes, but selling them, however, is not.  I just figured I'd mention that.

You're probably right, but if there was a legal way to obtain these games, I wouldn't have to resort to using that site.  I've not yet purchased anything from him yet, but personally I have no moral qualms in doing so.  He makes very little money on the site compared to how much time he puts into it (at least, so I've inferred based on a few interviews I've read with the guy).  From my perspective, he offers a service that is valuable - the ability to play those games on an NES rather than a PC.  If he was selling them for $50 a pop, then maybe I'd be skeptical.

Anyways, good advice on EB0, I think I'll hold off for the time being.  I guess I was thinking the game was more Zelda 3, less Dragon Warrior I, in style.  But that's based on the 15 minutes I once put into it's sequel, so go figure.

vuduMay 03, 2008

Quote from: Kairon

Which will we get first? This or Zombies Ate My Neighbors?

For what it's worth, Zombie Ate My Neighbors received an ESRB rating over 14 months ago.

PaleMike Gamin, Contributing EditorMay 03, 2008

You used some elaborate markup for that there link....

vuduMay 03, 2008

The italics are to signify the title and the bold is for emphasis of my point.  :D

Ian SaneMay 05, 2008

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I am however kinda worried that all the hype may ruin it a little...

A lot of the hype comes from the fact that it's an obscure Nintendo first party title that's quite good.  But it's not the best RPG on the SNES or anything like that.  I wouldn't even consider a GOTY candidate for the time it came out.  But it's still very good and well worth buying on the VC.

Bill AurionMay 05, 2008

Quote from: Ian

Quote:

I am however kinda worried that all the hype may ruin it a little...

A lot of the hype comes from the fact that it's an obscure Nintendo first party title that's quite good.  But it's not the best RPG on the SNES or anything like that.  I wouldn't even consider a GOTY candidate for the time it came out.  But it's still very good and well worth buying on the VC.

Pfffff, Chrono Trigger has nothing on Earthbound...Not even Super Mario RPG...

I actually have a mint copy of Earthbound that I've never played (and won't any time soon, since it's back at my Mom's place which is 800 miles away in a different country).  I bought it at Wal-Mart a year or two after it came out for $15 or something ridiculous like that.

How much would it fetch on eBay?

UltimatePartyBearMay 06, 2008

Nothing.  It's not even worth listing.  You might as well just have it sent to me so I can get rid of it for you.

Quote from: Silks

I actually have a mint copy of Earthbound that I've never played (and won't any time soon, since it's back at my Mom's place which is 800 miles away in a different country).  I bought it at Wal-Mart a year or two after it came out for $15 or something ridiculous like that.

How much would it fetch on eBay?

Is it the one with the player's guide included? If so, then I may be willing to trade you my eternal soul.

Quote from: Kairon

Is it the one with the player's guide included? If so, then I may be willing to trade you my eternal soul.

Yes, it's the one with the player's guide included.  I'll take a poll of the group - is Kai's eternal soul worth it?

Smoke39May 07, 2008

No.

nickmitchMay 07, 2008

Not a chance.

Quote from: nickmitch

Not a chance.

Quote from: Smoke39

No.

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EasyCureMay 07, 2008

Quote from: Bill

Quote from: Ian

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I am however kinda worried that all the hype may ruin it a little...

A lot of the hype comes from the fact that it's an obscure Nintendo first party title that's quite good.  But it's not the best RPG on the SNES or anything like that.  I wouldn't even consider a GOTY candidate for the time it came out.  But it's still very good and well worth buying on the VC.

Pfffff, Chrono Trigger has nothing on Earthbound...Not even Super Mario RPG...

QFT

To me, the reason its such a good RPG is it doesnt feel like a traditional RPG even though it is. It's the same reason i like playing Mario RPG but since i played that after EB, I prefer EB more as a whole.

Quote from: Silks

Quote from: Kairon

Is it the one with the player's guide included? If so, then I may be willing to trade you my eternal soul.

No but mine is.

Yes, it's the one with the player's guide included.  I'll take a poll of the group - is Kai's eternal soul worth it?

blackfootstepsMay 07, 2008

Quote from: EasyCure

Quote from: Silks

Quote from: Kairon

Is it the one with the player's guide included? If so, then I may be willing to trade you my eternal soul.

Yes, it's the one with the player's guide included.  I'll take a poll of the group - is Kai's eternal soul worth it?

No but mine is.

Fixed? (weird... it did the same thing to my quote)

Smoke39May 07, 2008

For anyone who's interested, this article chronicles the Starmen.net community's struggles to get NOA's attention and NOA's perpetual indifference.

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