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Microsoft and Sony Unite to Support the Wii

by Stan Ferguson - May 15, 2006, 2:18 pm EDT
Total comments: 41 Source: www.gamesindustry.biz

With enemies like these, who needs friends?

Nintendo has recently been barraged with kind comments by its closest

competitors, Microsoft and Sony. During an interview with Reuters at E3

last week, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President, Peter Moore, made a swipe at

Sony saying, "Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3? People are ... going to

buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3.

People will always gravitate toward a competitively priced product -- like

what I believe Wii will be -- with innovative new designs and great

intellectual property like Mario, Zelda and Metroid."

Sony, for their part, responded to Microsoft's barb in an interview with GamePro. "I think Peter Moore is exactly right," said Sony exec, Phil

Harrison. "I think Nintendo will be the second system consumers purchase

after PlayStation 3. I haven't had a chance to check out the Wii myself, but

Nintendo has a great history of innovation and has always done great things

for gaming and long may they do so."

Talkback

NinGurl69 *hugglesMay 15, 2006

aahahahhahahah in yer dreams!

RequiemMay 15, 2006

Maybe they want Nintendo to remian in the game market for the sole reason of stealing their ideas!

NinGurl69 *hugglesMay 15, 2006

Without Wii, the Dual Shock 3 wouldn't have had anything to add!

Ian SaneMay 15, 2006

I read it like this:

"When you go to the store to buy a Wii use all that money you save to also buy a Playstation 3!"

"No, buy an Xbox 360 to compliment your Wii. It's cheaper than a PS3."

Essentially Sony and MS are positioning THEMSELVES as the second console with the Wii being the assumed purchase. They may not even realize that but that's what they're saying.

CalibanMay 15, 2006

P666 > Uh, it's no longer a "Dual Shock"!

Wether people like it or not, publicity even from competitors is fair and always welcome.

NinGurl69 *hugglesMay 15, 2006

OH SNAPS, I got SERVD

steveyMay 15, 2006

LoL $ony and ms are already beging for mercy! devil.gif

Shin GallonMay 15, 2006

They're right, I'm buying a Wiivolution and a PS3 both...though I'm likely getting Nintendo's next gen before I do Sony's...
360 isn't even in the running at this point for me, it has nothing I want.

RequiemMay 15, 2006

WiiDS combo sounds just right.

Smash_BrotherMay 15, 2006

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Originally posted by: Requiem
Maybe they want Nintendo to remian in the game market for the sole reason of stealing their ideas!


Correct.

MS has made a fine living off of Apple's ideas and innovations for over two decades. They recognize that trying to kill Nintendo is like killing Apple: biting the hand that feeds them.

There are two types of companies in the world: those that innovate and those that take innovations from other companies, do a better job marketing them and succeed that way.

Sony and MS both know that Nintendo is going to be around for a while but it's that THEY are the ones vying for the same market: the established hardcore gamer.

couchmonkeyMay 15, 2006

Yeah, it's not like either one of them said, "Forget us, just buy a Wii."

Even though that's what they should have said.

FaithinchaosMay 15, 2006

Has Nintendo erected a true lightening rod in the center of the industry?
Are they truly rising above the traditional "console wars?"
Will Sony and Microsoft ever. JUST. GO. AWAY.

Stay tuned!

Smash_BrotherMay 15, 2006

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Originally posted by: Faithinchaos Are they truly rising above the traditional "console wars?"


I never believed it would happen, but it seems to be the case.

The whole "Be so different that they can't touch you." strategy seems to be working.

FaithinchaosMay 15, 2006

I know, its weird how its playing out. Its as if in playing hookey from the "big game," they are letting two big, bad schoolyard bullies to really get to know one another, knowing what will inevitably then ensue. Problem solved?

At first, nintendo was scaring me with their "Blue Ocean" nonsense speak. I'm actually unfortunately familiar with corporate jargon, and hearing that kind of corporate theory come from Nintendo was quite disheartening and put a solid knot in my stomache. But their master plan is starting to show itself, and it really is epic. Provided things play out as they're appearing to be, the NES will no longer be remembered as their big, bold accomplishment, which is fscking INSANE to think about!

/methinks this is perhaps something they've been hammering out for a long time, while Yamauchi was still in the big chair. I mean, surely this isn't all a plan by Satoru Iwata...



Right?

ssj4_androidMay 15, 2006

Now, why doesn't Microsoft let Nintendo sell Rare games on the VC?

EasyCureMay 16, 2006

" I haven't had a chance to check out the Wii myself, but Nintendo has a great history of innovation and has always done great things for gaming and long may they do so....so we can "innovate" as well"

thats how i read that last statement anyway.

"Now, why doesn't Microsoft let Nintendo sell Rare games on the VC?"

although i'd love to play some of those classic rare games, the only way i see microsoft doing that while rare is under their belt is by having some kinda MS ads in the game. Like you d/l perfect dark and after the Rare logo you see something like "perfect dark 0 only on xbox" or something. that would be super lame and i wouldnt want nintendo to make an agreemant which would advertise its competitor.

Infernal MonkeyMay 16, 2006

What's with all this love crap, bring on Blast Processing.

KDR_11kMay 16, 2006

Sorry, my Megadrive exploded, no more blast processing for you.

PaleMike Gamin, Contributing EditorMay 16, 2006

I was buying a PS3 at launch... until the "$600 LOL" crap... Now I don't know what I'm doing besides getting Wii.

Smash_BrotherMay 16, 2006

What was the system seller for the PS3? I can understand Halo 3 on the 360, but what on the PS3 is a clear must-have?

PaleMike Gamin, Contributing EditorMay 16, 2006

Well there isn't really one. I was just assuming that Square would be handing everything to them.

mantidorMay 16, 2006

The winning combo is Nintendo+PC and every gamer knows it.

Athrun ZalaMay 16, 2006

is it just me or are they assuming that Nintendo already won?

RizeDavid Trammell, Staff AlumnusMay 16, 2006

I've been thinking this for quite some time now. Wii is so cheap and innovative, it's almost a must-have second console. But if enough people pick it up as a second (in addition to the ones who pick it up exclusively) Nintendo could eclipse both of the big guys. It's going to be a very interesting "console war" that's for sure.

PaLaDiNMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
What was the system seller for the PS3? I can understand Halo 3 on the 360, but what on the PS3 is a clear must-have?
MGS4 and FFXIII. The PS3 is basically the Squeenix Kojima Box right now.

Smash_BrotherMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN MGS4 and FFXIII. The PS3 is basically the Squeenix Kojima Box right now.


Is that worth $600, though?

And I just don't get how Kojima can be so goddamn adamant about seeing Snake into SSBB and yet not make any games for Nintendo's consoles (even Twin Snakes wasn't developed by Konami but by SK...)

Kojima wants to make movies, not games. That's why. Just watch the MGS4 trailer. He wants to be Akira Kurosawa.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

PaLaDiNMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherIs that worth $600, though?
Yeah, actually. Not to me personally, but you asked for system sellers.

I'm thinking Kojima might be regretting starting work on MGS4 for PS3 so early. They can't exactly port it over to another console, given that it's pretty much the most graphically intensive game on PS3 and thus one of the most reliant on its hardware structure. I guess he just assumed the PS3 would dominate like the PS2, which isn't looking so obvious right now.

mantidorMay 16, 2006

There was this article where Kojima wanted to run away from MGS4 to develop for the Wii but of course he cant at the moment. From what Ive read it appears he really never wanted to make so many Metal Gear Solid games, thats probably why Snake is killing himself in this one.

RequiemMay 16, 2006

No sh!t?

That's a good sign if I've ever seen one.

mantidorMay 16, 2006

Link: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=140020

Kojima: "I'd like to run away from MGS 4 creation and create something for the Wii but unfortunately, I don't have anything that I can announce at the moment. I have lots of ideas for Wii but I have a heavy schedule with MGS 4 and Metal Gear Online."

NinGurl69 *hugglesMay 16, 2006

Excuses.

RhoqMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: EasyCure
although i'd love to play some of those classic rare games, the only way i see microsoft doing that while rare is under their belt is by having some kinda MS ads in the game. Like you d/l perfect dark and after the Rare logo you see something like "perfect dark 0 only on xbox" or something. that would be super lame and i wouldnt want nintendo to make an agreemant which would advertise its competitor.


...But as we've heard many times already, from Nintendo - Nintendo does not consider the Wii a competitor to the PS3 or XBox 360. If that is in fact true, why would they care if Microsoft were to do that to a Rare developed Virtual Console game? Of course we know that they do care, and the the Wii is competing, regardless of what they say or want us to believe.

RhoqMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: Pale
I was buying a PS3 at launch... until the "$600 LOL" crap... Now I don't know what I'm doing besides getting Wii.


I'll get a Wii at launch and probably an XBox 360 1Q2007.

ShyGuyMay 16, 2006

I'm tempted to get a 360 for Alan Wake and Bioshock

I don't know what I'm going to do right now. I'm not interested in XBox360 since I've never been a Halo fan, and at $600 the PS3 is no longer a high priority for me. I love the Metal Gear Solid series, but the PS3 is going to have to show me more than that to make me want to buy it.

For those of you wondering about the system sellers are going to be for the PS3, they're going to be what they have been for EVERY Sony system since the beginning:

- A Metal Gear Solid game
- A Final Fantasy Game
- A Gran Turismo game
- A Ridge Racer game
- A Madden game
- A God of War game (eventually)
- A Burnout game (eventually)

I'm sure there are a couple of other titles we could throw in there too, like "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Same With Better Graphics and More Vehicles/Weapons". Can't wait for that one.

People are gravitating towards the Wii because it's the only console that is truly different this generation. The 360 and PS3 offer incremental improvements on the same formula, so there aren't any surprises any more. And since the gaming public has already seen what HDTV gaming looks like on the 360, what the PS3 is doing is even more underwhelming.

Well, I wonder how the lack of force feedback affects some of those games.

It's funny. Sony has done something that Ian will hate a lot. They're throwing out the baby with the bathwater and excluding established features like rumble feedback to include a new unproven "sparkling innovationy" feature like tilt sensors.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

mantidorMay 16, 2006

I dont think its that new, I mean look at sony's new launch game!

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Originally posted by: mantidor
I dont think its that new, I mean look at sony's new launch game!


This is when Sony unveiled that launch game.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

JonLeungMay 16, 2006

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Originally posted by: mantidor
The winning combo is Nintendo+PC and every gamer knows it.


So true.

So many Xbox & Xbox 360 games are on the PC it's not even funny.

KDR_11kMay 17, 2006

For those of you wondering about the system sellers are going to be for the PS3, they're going to be what they have been for EVERY Sony system since the beginning:

- A Metal Gear Solid game
- A Final Fantasy Game
- A Gran Turismo game
- A Ridge Racer game
- A Madden game
- A God of War game (eventually)
- A Burnout game (eventually)


Only Final Fantasy, GT and God of War are exclusive among those. The rest will appear on other consoles and maybe even the PC. A non-exclusive is hardly a system seller.

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