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RE: Is SquareEnix ignoring GC?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2004, 05:12:52 AM »
Wow, who knew Vin Diesel cared so much about video games?

Professional 666: I noticed a new Mana game has been announced for PS2, and my heart was filled with joy.  Then I remembered that I don't own a PS2, and my heart was filled with sadness.  A few hours later the drugs wore off and my heart was filled with ordinary blood.  But the initial artwork for that game looks awesome.
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2004, 05:34:33 AM »
Yeah Vin Diesel was deeply involved in the Riddick game. As far as I know think he owns some sort of game company/developer? Anyway, I'd take his word over VU's. He didn't just show up for voice overs, he had a deep hand in the game's development.

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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2004, 05:25:10 PM »
couchmonkey:  Your sadness is my sadness.  The fact it's on PS2 makes me lean to the belief that multiplayer is absent, like in Legend of Mana, where neither system is natively 4-player-friendly.  But MY GameCube is 4-player friendly.   OH THE INJUSTICE.  My heart is filled with even greater sadness.  Daisy is crying.
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2004, 10:44:57 PM »
Goddamnit, the SNES wasn't four player friendly, either!

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2004, 11:13:38 PM »
But both Seiken Densetsu 2 AND Seiken Densetsu 3 had 3-player support on the SNES, provided you got the multitap equipment, However, one generation later, we get a game without multiplayer despite the fact PSX also had similar multitap equipment.  But another generation later, we got a very basic, 4-player FFCC which managed to earn respectable sales, tho it also required even more additional "equipment."  I just want another decent multiplayer Mana game that uses standard controllers on my current Nintendo hardware. -_-
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2004, 11:52:50 PM »
Send Daisy to Square-Enix HQ, and she'll fix them up for good!

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2004, 03:25:50 PM »
Actually as someone stated, nintendo paid out $150ish million to create an developer under square--Game Designers Studio.  So yeah, another game would be a given IMO.  

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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2004, 11:00:48 PM »
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Originally posted by: Ymeegod
Actually as someone stated, nintendo paid out $150ish million to create an developer under square--Game Designers Studio.  So yeah, another game would be a given IMO.


and that game is FF:CC for the DS.

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2004, 11:20:43 PM »
Erm, SE has more DS support than just the FFCC game...

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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2004, 10:24:09 AM »
What about those companies that are made of ex-square, ex-enix, ex-earthbound team, any ex-whatever, Camelot, Brownie Brown, and Treasure.  Nintendo help make some of them didn't they?  Shouldn't they in return make for the GCN?  If they did GCN could have already matched SNes, PSX,  or PS2 in RPGs.  So far I only really thank Namco right now.
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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2004, 10:31:18 AM »
Camelot and Brownie Brown are for the most part Nintendo exclusive.  They just seem to focusing on the GBA.  Treasure is made up of former Konami guys and I don't believe they have ever made an RPG.  They are still great though I think Nintendo should try to land them as exclusives.  They don't really have an reason to be loyal to Nintendo though.

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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2004, 10:39:49 AM »
"Treasure is made up of former Konami guys and I don't believe they have ever made an RPG. They are still great though I think Nintendo should try to land them as exclusives."

I'm still confused about a comment that Miyamoto made back before Treasure was revealed to be the developers of Wario World...He said that it was being developed by a "second party which they had worked with in the past"...
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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2004, 10:44:33 AM »
"I'm still confused about a comment that Miyamoto made back before Treasure was revealed to be the developers of Wario World...He said that it was being developed by a 'second party which they had worked with in the past'... "

Well they are a second party in the literal sense.  Just not in gaming terms.  They're aren't like Rare was.  Nintendo did work with them for Sin & Punishment for the N64 which sadly was never released here.

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« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2004, 11:27:43 AM »
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Erm, SE has more DS support than just the FFCC game...


oops, yeah, your right.

I'm wondering why Gradius V isn't coming to gamecube, I don't know why konami (or SCEA) would allow it to be released on the PS2 and not the cube.  I'm amazed SCEA is allowing it to come out at all in america, but i suppose konami has enough control over them because of the MGS titles and such.

Tis a shame.
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« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2004, 12:15:03 PM »
The Saturn version of Guardian Heroes was an Action RPG by Treasure....granted it was more action than RPG but it was a helluva game. I'm cautiously optimistic about the GBA version.

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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2004, 01:16:33 AM »
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Erm, SE has more DS support than just the FFCC game..."

He was referring to the developer GDS.  :0.  And yeah I know about it but I doubt that's the only title they are working on.


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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2004, 09:08:09 AM »
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They can only fit one (money) hat on their heads at the same time.

Maybe if they supported Nintendo, they would be the market leader?



Don't be so bloody rediculous. It would take more than just SquareEnix to get Nintendo back in the game, a mircle perhaps? Or maybe the imeadiate resignation of that bumbling, clueless fool Iwata, that would be a start.

As for SquareEnix 'ignoring' the 'Cube. Would you waste all your time and money developing games for a comercial disaster like the Gamecube only to watch it bomb at retail along with all the other 'must have' Gamecube games?
 

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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2004, 10:18:53 AM »
"It would take more than just SquareEnix to get Nintendo back in the game, a miracle perhaps?"

Not really.  In Japan whatever console has Dragon Quest wins... period.  That alone decides everything.  Since that determines who wins that determines who gets the most Japanese third party support.  Having the most Japanese third party support then ensures a strong presence in North America since a lot of the top selling games here are Japanese.

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2004, 10:24:47 AM »
It would certainly help.... Dragon Quest would help more in Japan and FF would help more in the States, in my opinion...  

But I just want Star Ocean III ;_;.

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2004, 10:24:56 AM »
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"It would take more than just SquareEnix to get Nintendo back in the game, a miracle perhaps?"

Not really.  In Japan whatever console has Dragon Quest wins... period.  That alone decides everything.  Since that determines who wins that determines who gets the most Japanese third party support.  Having the most Japanese third party support then ensures a strong presence in North America since a lot of the top selling games here are Japanese.




Nintendo are past it, they're never going to be major contenders again. ACCEPT IT DWEEB.

Nobody with any sense buys that Nitnendo crap anymore,  it's kids stuff; gaming's moved on Nintendo have not and will never be No1 again. Quit dreaming.  

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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2004, 10:27:43 AM »
Which is exactly why Nintendo is still the best-selling publisher worldwide... Or second best-selling, I'm not sure if EA has passed them.  And that is exactly why they profited over 670 million dollars in 2002 and profited 298 million dollars in 2003 due to the weak dollar.  Oh and they are currently ahead of the X-Box in worldwide sales.  Yep, they aren't a major contender XD.  

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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2004, 10:42:33 AM »
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Which is exactly why Nintendo is still the best-selling publisher worldwide... Or second best-selling, I'm not sure if EA has passed them.  And that is exactly why they profited over 670 million dollars in 2002 and profited 298 million dollars in 2003 due to the weak dollar.  Oh and they are currently ahead of the X-Box in worldwide sales.  Yep, they aren't a major contender XD.



Wrong, they are NOT ahead of Xbox inv world wide sales, they were for about a week after the price drop, but have been falling even further behind ever since. FACT.

Millions of dollars? WOW! LOL MS and Sony work in Billions.

No they're are not a major contender, havent been for a long while. Now go back to sleep.

 

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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2004, 10:44:22 AM »
"MS and Sony work in Billions."

That's if you include all of Microsoft's and Sony's other divisions.

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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2004, 10:47:02 AM »
Nintendo also has Billions in the bank, and it is also ahead console sales worldwide.  Sorry Casual, but you need to get your facts straight.
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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2004, 10:51:28 AM »
lol.  How old are you?  15?  Give me a break.

Sony's profits last year: $810 million dollars with everything, including movies, electonics, etc.  Only include the video games, and they profited $620 million.  

Nintendo's profits last year: $298 million dollars with a very, very weak dollar,  If the dollar had been at its usually strength, Nintendo was expected to profit 550 million.  

So Nintendo has $8 billion dollars and every year they make 1/4 to 3/4 of a billion more.  Yep, they are on the way out.  Get your facts straight.

And yes, I left M$ out.  Why?  Because any profits that they have have nothing to do with the X-Box and they are so much larger than Sony or Nintendo that it is pointless to compare them.

And Nintendo is still ahead of Microsoft in worldwide sales, sorry.  Why?  Take a look at the X-Box's sales in Japan.