Author Topic: Bad Tales of Symphonia news (Read 21859 times)

akdaman1 · « **on:** April 08, 2004, 01:48:38 PM »

- Namco announced they will bring both Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Rebirth to PlayStation 2. Tales of Symphonia is a port of the GameCube version, the color of the game logo is changed, it is unclear whether there are new elements in the game

That was just posted on www.the-magicbox.com

Bloddy hell cant anything stay exclusive.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:07:06 PM »

I read that too. The first thing I though was "oh man some guys on the PGC forum are going to be pissed." And they should be pissed. Tales of Symphonia sells well for the Cube in Japan and what do Cube fans get as a reward? A big "f*ck you". PS2 fans get a new Tales game and, according to all reports I've read, Tales of Symphonia with EXTRA FEATURES. What do we get? NOTHING.

No wonder third party games don't sell on the Cube. All the third parties treat us like sh!t.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:08:20 PM »

MOTHER FORKER

Can't they at least keep it exclusive in the U.S.?

DIE PAC-MAN PEOPEL1!!

Shift Key · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:09:09 PM »

*really hopes that PS2 fans get the cheap port this time round*

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:10:18 PM »

Is TheMagicBox the only place to have reported this? If so, it's possible, albeit unlikely, that MagicBox simply screwed up as they've done in the past. It's probably just wishful thinking, though. It seems like 3rd parties are looking for every excuse to screw over Nintendo- if their games sell bad on the Gamecube, they axe the sequel. If their games sell good on the Gamecube, they port them to other consoles. I wish Nintendo would use a little monetary incentive to keep some exclusives.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:17:32 PM »

Its only to be released in Japan ...so far.

Its was actually confirmed by V-Jump magazine. They sorta released the info before they were supposed to. Namco were about to have a confrence about the Tales of ....series on the 12th.

Anyway I say F**K NAMCO. F*ck Nintendo and F**k because I feel like t.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:23:05 PM »

Maybe SCEA will pull a move like what they did with Killer 7 and bar it from being released in America for some insane idea. Can anyone tell me why they did that? It makes no sense.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #7 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:25:45 PM »

"I wish Nintendo would use a little monetary incentive to keep some exclusives."

Yeah. Something like "NO GBA FOR YOU TRAITOR!"

akdaman1 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:28:28 PM »

Yeh or even worse they can punish them by making them play Universal Studios.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #9 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:36:29 PM »

"Can anyone tell me why [Sony] did that? It makes no sense."

I can think of two theories:

1. When Nintendo was in charge they limited releases in North America too. Maybe Sony thinks they would do better if they copied Nintendo's formula more even if it's in a bad way. They're set to release a power glove next year.

2. Console evoluation states that when a console company becomes too powerful they make a lot of dumb mistakes that pisses everyone off. Atari did it. Nintendo did it. Now Sony must do it. They can't stop it. It's fate.

Actually I believe the real reason is that Sony has realized that there are too many PS2 games released and it's hurting overall software sales. Thus they're restricting the localization of Japanese titles they feel will have limited appeal. I think telling companies like Acclaim to stop making so much crap would be a better strategy but whatever.

I think that with the N5 NOA should start a publishing "label" for Nintendo that specializes in localizing obscure Japanese releases. That would really help third party relations and if a surprise hit comes out of it Sony would be caught with their dick hanging out.

Mario · « **Reply #10 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:48:18 PM »

nintendo is teh d00med. i wont be buying n5 .lol

This is a pretty (very) stupid move for Namco, considering how well Tales of Symphonia sold on GCN in Japan compared to the PS2 one and the PS2s userbase, and also considering how many US and PAL gamers are looking forward to ToS on GCN. But i have a feeling it wasn't entirely Namco's decision... god damn I hate Sony.

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"I wish Nintendo would use a little monetary incentive to keep some exclusives."

Yeah. Something like "NO GBA FOR YOU TRAITOR!"

"Oh well, we'll develop for PSP then."

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #11 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:07:23 PM »

Hmmmm, well...Guess what? I don't really care...As long as I get the game, I'm happy...

Plus, it's not like we're not getting another Tales game anyway...(Tales of Legendia)

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:15:28 PM »

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I think that with the N5 NOA should start a publishing "label" for Nintendo that specializes in localizing obscure Japanese releases. That would really help third party relations and if a surprise hit comes out of it Sony would be caught with their dick hanging out.

I completely agree. It's also why I'm glad that Nintendo is releasing a lot more games in North America that have typically remained Japanese exclusive, like Custom Robo, the Wars series, and Fire Emblem. Nintendo has a lot of really great franchises that simply haven't seen the light of day outside of Japan, and I'm really glad Nintendo is starting to get them some global exposure.

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"Oh well, we'll develop for PSP then."

Unfortunately, I think you're right. While not being allowed to make GBA games would be a huge hit to Namco, it's nowhere near as serious as before, when the Gameboy was all there was.

Koopa Troopa · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:19:54 PM »

How long as Symphonia been out in Japan without the mention of a PS2 version? It was exclusive for a while and I think that did some good. Still ticked off, though.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:22:59 PM »

Hmm. Pac-Man sucks.
How the heck did that ever become a Player's Choice title?

mjbd · « **Reply #15 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:48:18 PM »

I dont mind if its ported to PS2, its not gonna effect the sales on Cube. I personally think if one system gets a game more than 6 months ahead of any other system, its pretty much exclusive. Besides, the game was developed for Cube, and will be ported to PS2, usually we get PS2 ports, and bad ones at that. Still looking forward to this game.

joshnickerson · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2004, 04:07:20 PM »

Crud. IGN just pretty much confirmed it. I guess this is the thanks Nintendo gets for lending Link and StarFox to Namco.
I don't know, I keep getting the feeling all these companies want to push Nintendo to going under then becoming a third party or something. Just bizarre.
Hopefully this will be an exclusive for Nintendo for a LITTLE while at least... as long as it has that blue triangle at the top of the box for about six months or so

Djunknown · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2004, 04:37:02 PM »

I wouldn't want to think its lack of confidence: Soul Calibur 2 anyone?

I'd like to believe the theory that Sony found some money hats and gave them to Namco...

If I recall correctly, the game was so successful in Japan that it spurred 'Cube sales, outselling PS2 for a week or so! Why wouldn't Sony want to get a killer app?

Oh well, as long at its still locked for that July release, whatever....

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2004, 04:38:22 PM »

Soul Calibur 2 was multiplatform from the start- everyone knew that. Namco said Tales of Symphonia was a Gamecube exclusive and then they pull this out on us. The least they could do is give us Tales of Rebirth.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:02:51 PM »

Boo Namco! You suck ass!!!

I honestly didn't mind that the GameCube wasn't getting games like Xenosaga and Tales of Destiny 2, because Namco was talking about how they were splitting their series. "Destiny" and it's spinoffs (started on the PSone) go to Sony. "Phantasia" and it's spinoffs (started on the SNES) go to Nintendo. Xenosaga for Sony, newcomer Baten Kaitos for Nintendo. That's a fair division. And it even had a sense of "lineage". Sequels aplenty, made to fit demand. If you really must own both branches, just buy a second console already.

But now the GameCube's getting screwed. Namco is saying, "Oh, if you want the best of everything, and don't wanna pony up for a second console, the just buy a PS2. Every game in existence will always end up on the PS2 anyways. We all knew it would happen."

You want diversity? Screw diversity! That way diversity will die, and you'll end up with a monopoly on diversity, which has to be a lot.

Namco's been putting more-than-half-assed effort into supporting the GameCube, and apparently they've been getting the sales figures to reward them for doing it. But, I guess they'd rather experience for themselves what happens when they dump half-assed crap on the GameCube. Everyone already knows what will happen, but you just know that Namco will blame us when it does, and use that as proof to keep dumping crap, or just kill their support altogether.

I don't mind if PS2 owners get a chance to play Symphonia. Seriously. And the GameCube version should be better anyways. But where the hell is our Tales of Destiny 2 then Namco?!? Our American division won't beat your games into nonexistence when they don't like your genre. NOA might actually even go so far as to publish the game for you, if you gave them the chance.

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Plus, it's not like we're not getting another Tales game anyway...(Tales of Legendia)

Are you sure that one was real? There have been a number of conflicting "Tales game" rumors lately. (I don't remember if Legendia had a real source or not.)

Zeth · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:09:33 PM »

if I were namco i'd like to sell more copies of TOS than the 350,000-450,000 it sold on gamecube ^_^

Berny · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:27:37 PM »

*is too hopping mad to make a coherent response at the moment*

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #22 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:32:26 PM »

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Plus, it's not like we're not getting another Tales game anyway...(Tales of Legendia)

Are you sure that one was real? There have been a number of conflicting "Tales game" rumors lately. (I don't remember if Legendia had a real source or not.)

Famitsu reported it, so yeah... ^_^

And those who are cursing at Namco, please shut up...With the lack of third party support, you should be happy we are even getting such a great game... (and this is coming from the person most anticipating the game)

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #23 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:38:54 PM »

Doesn't change the fact Namco is being a real set up dumbasses right now- I think that's deserved of railing, no?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #24 on:** April 08, 2004, 05:40:48 PM »

No...

But I'm a nice guy who doesn't like to bitch, so whatever...

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