Topic: Why you should drop Windows...

[Koopa Troopa]

Ninja, I bet you're no stranger to the word "extremist"  Seriously, you need to relax a little, it seems like you spend alot of time flaming people who hold different views than you. I'm sure your first inclination will be to do just that to me... It can't possibly make you happy to berate other people, I know it didn't make me happy. The first time I used Mozilla (about two years ago), I went on a little anti-IE spree, and looking back I wish I hadn't, all it did was make me bitter (not to mention look like a jackass).  You seem to have a bad habit insulting everyone's intelligence, a lack of knowledge doesn't make someone stupid, unintelligent or "a non-intellectual". You boast your own knowledge yet seem unwilling to share it, preferring to blurt out key phrases like *"RPC Vulnerabilty" and then refuse to enlighten anyone as to what they are (which makes your knowledge questionable at best).

I know you and I have been on shaky ground before(I hope you don't think this an aftershock of that), and I don't want to insult you, but I've been on the "elitist trip", and like I said it will only make you bitter (among other unsavory things)



*RPC, for those who care, is Remote Procedure Calling; the vulnerability stems from several things in conjunction, but ultimately it allows hackers to execute "top-level" commands via buffer overflows. I think there is a book out on the market that actually shows you how to do it, but I may be thinking of something else. Also worth noting: patches have been released to fix the flaw. (I haven't followed any of this  that closely, so I apologize if anything is misrepresented)

[Grey Ninja]

Koopa, I know what you are saying.  and I would be lying if I said I hadn't considered it.  But I don't think I am doing anything wrong in this case.  Akdaman really is someone that I have actually complained to mods about before for posting mostly stupid crap.  I have no problems if someone lacks knowledge.  I do have problems if someone is intellectually challenged.  Is this wrong?  Maybe.  Do I care?  No.  I try to tolerate it as long as possible.  That I did.  I told akdaman to look up RPC in the chances of having him do something for himself for a change.  The fact that he didn't go to google and type in 3 letters really finished it for him in my eyes.  I have never had much respect for him, and I gave him one more chance.  intellegence had nothing to do with it.

I know I had my problems with you, but I honestly don't remember what they were, which leads me to believe that I was seriously drunk when I had my fight with you (as is the case at this moment).  I don't hold any sort of grudge against you, in spite of what you might think, and I think you to be an intelligent person, in spite of our differences.  But akdaman is someone I will never accept as being sentient.

Now that being said, I REALLY wish we would get back on topic.  I will install Linux tomorrow, and will likely not return to Windows for some time.

[KnowsNothing]

Well, I'm trying to test out Linux on my PC.  Since this is only a trial run (i don't know what to expect) I decided to try dragon linux, which can run along side windows without having to partition the hard disk.  the problem is, I don't know how to install it (yeah, I know, it's the easiest to install out of almost all of them).  I think the problem just might be that you have to go into full DOS mode and windows ME can't do that.  There's a way to do that with  startup disk, I think.

Any help would be appreciated.  I really want to try this out.  

EDIT:  I'd just like to randomly add that I really like this thread. I am starting to get bored with what's happening around here lately.  I don't even read the game threads even more because they are just a waste of time.  I like threads that generate discussion and (especially) debate, and I'm starting to appreciate the ones that do more.  That's why I really like people like Grey Ninja, kdr_11k, manunited4eva22, mouse_clicker, and a bunch of other people.  They usually have something intelligent to say (which is more than I can say about myself) which generates constructive discussion, which is what this forum is meant to have.

[MattCrafty]

To get Windows ME into DOS mode, just insert your startup disk and select Minimal Boot,  start withCD-ROM support, or start with no CD-ROM support. I guess either of them should work.

[akdaman1]

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
I am SICK of all this fighting.  Akdaman, I am not going to bother fighting with you anymore.q]

Agreed , I dont like you and you dont like me , but at least show me some respect . Also 1 more thing , the only Major stupid thing I have done is posting the emuilation topic , which I said I was sorry for. If there is more then please bring it to my attention , or PM me so I know what you are talking about and improve on it.

[Uglydot]

This topic should be titled

"Why should the topic creator go to hell"

The answer is that linux etc is not useful to everyone and not everyone should use it.  I happen to dual boot, some just want the computer to work for them right now and windows does that.  

[Grey Ninja]

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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Well, I'm trying to test out Linux on my PC.  Since this is only a trial run (i don't know what to expect) I decided to try dragon linux, which can run along side windows without having to partition the hard disk.  the problem is, I don't know how to install it (yeah, I know, it's the easiest to install out of almost all of them).  I think the problem just might be that you have to go into full DOS mode and windows ME can't do that.  There's a way to do that with  startup disk, I think.

Any help would be appreciated.  I really want to try this out.  

EDIT:  I'd just like to randomly add that I really like this thread. I am starting to get bored with what's happening around here lately.  I don't even read the game threads even more because they are just a waste of time.  I like threads that generate discussion and (especially) debate, and I'm starting to appreciate the ones that do more.  That's why I really like people like Grey Ninja, kdr_11k, manunited4eva22, mouse_clicker, and a bunch of other people.  They usually have something intelligent to say (which is more than I can say about myself) which generates constructive discussion, which is what this forum is meant to have.

KnowsNothing, I am not really all that good with Linux.  Most of my experience with it comes from my CS courses, which uses Unix as a base.  But I can direct you toward knoppix, which is a variant of Linux that boots off of a CD rather than your hard drive.  You then don't have to install anything, and can just boot from a CD to try out Linux.  

[Koopa Troopa]

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Koopa, I know what you are saying. and I would be lying if I said I hadn't considered it. But I don't think I am doing anything wrong in this case. Akdaman really is someone that I have actually complained to mods about before for posting mostly stupid crap. I have no problems if someone lacks knowledge. I do have problems if someone is intellectually challenged. Is this wrong? Maybe. Do I care? No. I try to tolerate it as long as possible. That I did. I told akdaman to look up RPC in the chances of having him do something for himself for a change. The fact that he didn't go to google and type in 3 letters really finished it for him in my eyes. I have never had much respect for him, and I gave him one more chance. intellegence had nothing to do with it.

Admittedly, a google search would have been fairly simple, but at the same time if someone really doesn't know what they are looking for (especially if they don't understand it), it will probably be fruitless. I can see from your stance on things that you wish suggest to people an alternative way of computing, I think you would have more success in educating than you have in your current method. For instance, I know if someone just tries Mozilla they'll never want to go back (Although in some cases IE is still necessary, but that is beside the point), all I have to do is get them to try it.

Intelligence and Intellectuality are related, but you're right, I don't think you said anything about intelligence directly. However, I'm not sure it is fair to assume that Akdaman isn't an intellectual. Obviously he isn't inclined to Computer Science, but put someone in their element and they may surprise you.

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I know I had my problems with you, but I honestly don't remember what they were, which leads me to believe that I was seriously drunk when I had my fight with you (as is the case at this moment). I don't hold any sort of grudge against you, in spite of what you might think, and I think you to be an intelligent person, in spite of our differences. But akdaman is someone I will never accept as being sentient.

Oh, I know there isn't any tension between us any longer, which is why I hoped our past(if such a short time can be called that ) wasn't brought to mind by my interjection.

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Now that being said, I REALLY wish we would get back on topic. I will install Linux tomorrow, and will likely not return to Windows for some time.

I do apologize for regressing, I toyed with the idea that might restart the argument but I'm glad that, as I expected, it did not.

Have fun with Linux, I've been toying with the idea myself but have decided to wait until I have computer that I can devote to Linux.

[Bloodworth]

I don't have time to read through all of this mess, but I'm shutting it down.  Grey Ninja, I'd hate to ban someone that's been around so long, but I'm going to tell you right now that you need to stop publicly complaining about and attacking other users.  If you can't be civil about your complaints, then you don't need to be here anymore.  You can point out specific problems privately to the moderators, and if you don't feel that something is worth pointing out to us, then it's not worth complaining about either.    

If the thread creator wants to start up a new discussion on this, that's fine, but we need to kill the baggage this thread is carrying.