Author Topic: Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows. (free DLC) (Read 11272 times)

Nile Boogie Returns · « **on:** March 02, 2015, 10:01:28 PM »

http://yachtclubgames.com/2015/03/introducing-shovel-knight-plague-of-shadows-playstation-release-date-pax-east-plush/

SWEET MONEY G CHRISTMAS!!!!! The Game of the Year just got better. I adore this game and I will buy pretty much whatever these people release for the next 3 years .

Phil · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2015, 10:16:09 PM »

Just saw this!

In your excitement, Nile Boogie Returns, the link is incorrect.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2015, 11:05:36 PM »

Quote from: Phil on March 02, 2015, 10:16:09 PM

Just saw this!

In your excitement, Nile Boogie Returns, the link is incorrect.

I was in a rush so I could beat someone to the punch. I shan't name the person.

Evan_B · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2015, 06:55:06 AM »

Now I have to hear more about how a mediocre homage to the NES is the savior of gaming.

Adrock · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:28:24 AM »

Quote from: Evan_B on March 03, 2015, 06:55:06 AM

Now I have to hear more about how a mediocre homage to the NES is the savior of gaming.

I know. I hate when people are excited about things I'm not excited about. They should only like what I like.

Evan_B · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2015, 10:08:50 AM »

Quote from: Adrock on March 03, 2015, 07:28:24 AM

Quote from: Evan_B on March 03, 2015, 06:55:06 AM
Now I have to hear more about how a mediocre homage to the NES is the savior of gaming.
I know. I hate when people are excited about things I'm not excited about. They should only like what I like.

WARNING, THE FOOLLOWING POST COMES FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO LOVE OF THE MEGA MAN FRANCHISE AND SUBSEQUENT RIPOFFS/IMITATIONS/GAMES THAT SHARE THE SAME DESIGN FROM IT. So disregard this if you think you have better taste than me, because I'm also the guy who hates 3D Land and that has made me something of a laughingstock on the site.

Glad to see someone gets it.

I just don't get how massively overhyped this game is. The level design is boring, the vigor use is garbage, the story is typical indie fare, and the best part of the game is the music by far. Of course, this update will mean it is now playable in a different and better way, but it honestly would have felt like more of an effort if it had been released altogether. It's like they were excited to show us how great their Mega man ripoff was when it ended up being mostly just a boring retread of the same things.

Soren · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:01:04 PM »

As someone who never played a Mega Man game until a year ago, this is a good game and I'm looking forward to every bit of DLC it has to offer.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2015, 11:30:36 PM »

The game is extremely polished. It feels like the old NES games we remember from our childhood. However, it has many modern game mechanics that make it a better game, and it is a keenly crafted and designed games.

The graphics and animation are beautiful and although it 8 bit, the art style doesn't feel 8 bit or ugly. Instead it is charming and the detail and personality provided in the animation is inspired.

Not having a certain number of lives and having save states make this game much friendlier to players. Everyone should be able to beat this game.

Platforming is carefully designed, and although it maintains many elements of old school games, it tweaks the experience to make it more playable and forgiving.

In the end, this game deserves all the praise it has received and it is not just a Mega Man clone, but a tribute to an entire generation of gaming.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:03:00 AM »

I like it its a pretty good game but I didn't even compare it to Mega Man. If you want a cheap (not literally cheap) Mega man knock off made by modern gamers play Battle Kid.

I haven't played the game, or my Wii U for that matter, in a while so something like this could get met to go back and try it again.

Phil · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:03:59 AM »

There's even more free DLC coming since those Kickstarter goals were funded. Wasn't one of the goals funded a multiplayer battle mode or something similar?

Evan_B · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:28:32 AM »

Whoa whoa, just because it's accessible and nostalgic means it's a good game? I beg to differ.

The art style, while quite nice in some areas, feels cluttered in others, and the game is not polished if the only way they could figure implementing vigors into the game design was achievements and specific segments that don't flow with the rest of the game at all.

Just because a title doesn't have a lives system doesn't mean it's forgiving the sins of older titles. And I would argue the game looks little like an 8-bit game because of it's complexity in animation and visual aesthetic. There are other developers who have done what Shovel Knight aims to do but barely any of them were respected for it.

To say this game is a game of the year is a bold statement, to say that it's in a league of its own is frankly untrue. It's well-made, yes. But it's not amazing. Maybe if all the content they have planne for the game is as well-thought-out and decently executed as the original package was, I might reconsider. The initial product left me very underwhelmed.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:41:55 PM »

Quote from: Evan_B on March 04, 2015, 06:28:32 AM

Whoa whoa, just because it's accessible and nostalgic means it's a good game? I beg to differ.

The art style, while quite nice in some areas, feels cluttered in others, and the game is not polished if the only way they could figure implementing vigors into the game design was achievements and specific segments that don't flow with the rest of the game at all.

Just because a title doesn't have a lives system doesn't mean it's forgiving the sins of older titles. And I would argue the game looks little like an 8-bit game because of it's complexity in animation and visual aesthetic. There are other developers who have done what Shovel Knight aims to do but barely any of them were respected for it.

To say this game is a game of the year is a bold statement, to say that it's in a league of its own is frankly untrue. It's well-made, yes. But it's not amazing. Maybe if all the content they have planne for the game is as well-thought-out and decently executed as the original package was, I might reconsider. The initial product left me very underwhelmed.

Although I did proclaim this Game of the Year upon release, its not just me who feels like this game is special. Might not be your twist but it has won numerous GOTY nominations and wins. Not too many games surpass the hype like this did.

Evan_B · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2015, 12:15:44 AM »

Like I said, it's well-made, but I think a lot of the choices made aren't new, or novel, or even that great.

That's also why I gave a big old disclaimer saying I don't care for Mega Man style games in my second post.

Shovel Knight didn't do it for me, but at least this DLC is free so I can find out if it's actually worth it.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2015, 06:27:16 AM »

I haven't been able to stand the Mega Man games despite repeatedly trying to give them a chance, but I did really like Shovel Knight, for what it's worth.

Evan_B · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2015, 07:40:36 AM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on March 05, 2015, 06:27:16 AM

I haven't been able to stand the Mega Man games despite repeatedly trying to give them a chance, but I did really like Shovel Knight, for what it's worth.

I'm the same way except Shovel Knight still didn't win me over.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:59:13 AM »

I am the odd gamer that believes the latter Mega Man games are better thanthe earlier. 3 is better than 2...but I really enjoy 4-6.

Soren · « **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2015, 02:18:46 PM »

Played the first level of Plague of Shadows. It took me a while to get used to the new burst charge/jumping mechanic, but once you master it there the possibility of some really cool moves. Still unsure about the combat aspect of it but I'm sure it will get better once I start getting some upgrades.

Phil · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2015, 03:11:31 PM »

Was surprised to see the update is less than 100 MB! Yay! I can download it and have room for it on my Wii U!

broodwars · « **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2015, 03:46:57 PM »

I just started playing the Vita version of Plague of Shadows, and I'm not sure I like how Plague Knight plays. This is a game that relies on pixel-perfect platforming, and he has pretty much no way to deal with enemies directly below him. I've only cleared the first stage, and I've seen some pretty tricky moments already with blast jumps leading into hover-bombing on tiny platforms. It's pretty cool so far, though.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2015, 11:23:55 PM »

Quote from: broodwars on September 17, 2015, 03:46:57 PM

I just started playing the Vita version of Plague of Shadows, and I'm not sure I like how Plague Knight plays. This is a game that relies on pixel-perfect platforming, and he has pretty much no way to deal with enemies directly below him. I've only cleared the first stage, and I've seen some pretty tricky moments already with blast jumps leading into hover-bombing on tiny platforms. It's pretty cool so far, though.

True, but you can platform and bypass so many enemies it is just crazy.
Triple jump that can be linked together with a bomb throw to reset and do it again...is pretty amazing.

Evan_B · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2015, 03:15:42 AM »

Glad to see the patch doesn't even recognize I've already beaten the game. Bravo.

As for Plague Knight, I'm already enjoying it more than Shovel Knight's campaign just because it is now just a Mega Man clone with downward trajectory and chunky explosion sounds. The story is much more charming than Shovel Knight's, and the customization options are much cooler even though it's not like any 8-Bit game I've ever played, further distancing itself the original premise and actually a bit better because of it.

Level design still has some annoying moments, though, and things that were aggravating in Shovel Knight's campaign continue to be annoying here, like the loot system being broken by a number of bottomless pits. I see they also put no effort into shaping up the boss fights at all, as their attack patterns are still random and stupidly hard to read.

Soren · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2015, 03:14:38 PM »

Here I am fumbling around the opening stage as Plague Knight.

Soren · « **Reply #22 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:50:34 PM »

For those of you wondering what happens on the Explodatorium stage: He fights Shovel Knight and it's awesome.

Evan_B · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2015, 06:42:55 PM »

Why is it that people complain about the usage of bottomless pits in Sonic games but it's perfectly fine to implement them ad nauseam in this game?

Because it's "Nintendo Hard"? Seriously, try to convince me here.

ClexYoshi · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2015, 10:38:42 PM »

Quote from: Evan_B on October 01, 2015, 06:42:55 PM

Why is it that people complain about the usage of bottomless pits in Sonic games but it's perfectly fine to implement them ad nauseam in this game?

Because it's "Nintendo Hard"? Seriously, try to convince me here.

because in sonic games, they loom off-screen most of the time and they can just be something that if the level isn't designed right, you just FLY off into. in a platformer where the challenge is more of a screen to screen based one and the jump has a very predictable arc Vs. a highly momentum based one, such instant death traps can be consistently avoided on first time playthroughs as well as repeat playthroughs.

I still end up accidently falling into that stupid pit in Mystic cave every now and then and shut the game off because I'm super sonic and don't feel like waiting out an eternity in that hole to die.

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Author Topic: Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows. (free DLC) (Read 11272 times)