Author Topic: A tribute to Nirvana (Read 13253 times)

Kraven · « **Reply #25 on:** July 07, 2003, 09:13:27 AM »

I agree with Johnny, you definitely cannot base Soundgarden on Black Hole Sun. Could you play Nirvana's songs, Johnny? And I really dont think it matters how "complex" a song is. As long as it gets the point across. I agree with Hostile there is something Nirvana had that made them so great @ Hostile how come the Beatles are annoying? Im j/w. Haha is the song that bad? Ive never heard it b4

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #26 on:** July 07, 2003, 01:47:18 PM »

Well, the tune is anything but catchy, but my main problem is with the lyrics. It's practically the antithesis of what I believe.

The Beatles aren't that bad. Their songs are bearable, the main thing is that they're just a bunch of hippies with dorky haircuts that prepubescent teenage girls mistook for cool. But they're all right, I suppose.

Johnny Wonderpants · « **Reply #27 on:** July 07, 2003, 06:56:58 PM »

Well my instrument of choice is voice, and yes, I can sing any Nirvana song with the greatest of ease. I can also play a few of the songs on guitar, bass and drums, but I don't play those instruments...

And skill is very important to me, as is complexity. Simple music is fine for some people, but I prefer intricacy, and thick musicianship...

Uglydot · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2003, 02:30:06 AM »

I owned a the soundgarden cd the contained Blackhole Sun, I found the enire CD to be eh. My brother liked them a lot and had other CDs, I found them to be the same. I just always prefered the sound of Nirvana, even if it was simple, who cares. Simple isn't always poor, needless complexity is just useless and gets in the way.

Kraven · « **Reply #29 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:44:45 AM »

I don't know how many of you people know this but next year is the 10 year anniversary of Kurt Cobain killing himself. But does anyone wonder like me did Kurt Cobain really kill himself? I mean there are alot of sites out there that can almost prove other wise. Here is one http://www.justiceforkurt.com/ its quite an interesting read so if you have the time take a look at it.
On another thing Nirvana, has anyone in high school noticed any kind of surge of kids wearing like Kurt Cobain and Nirvana t-shirts? There are so many kids that like Nirvana in my school its awfully crazy. But I also kind of wonder if any of them actually own any of the CD's besides Nevermind and the greatest hits. I personally have Bleach through Greatest hits + some singles.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #30 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:54:55 AM »

I bet half of those kids don't own ANY Nirvana Cd's. Stupid posers. I despise people that just go with what's "in"

blackfootsteps · « **Reply #31 on:** December 15, 2003, 12:38:51 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kraven...My favorite songs are Where Did You Sleep Last Night?(In The Pines), Lake of Fire, and Plateau from Unplugged, Breed, Drain You and Something in the Way from Nevermind, About a Girl and Negative Creep from Bleach, Sliver and Hairspray Queen from Incesticide...

I like your picks! I would add Polly & New Wave Polly though definately my all time favourite Nirvana song.

The simlarities between PJ, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden etc don't exist, except that they were all around at the same time, collaborated with each other in some cases (Temple of the Dog, Mad Season) but in my opinion the music they produced individually sounds nothing alike.

The Omen · « **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2003, 12:49:38 PM »

Personally, i prefer Alice in chains over Nirvana,hands down, but its just an opinion. I liked the whole grunge scene though, and i had some of the best live show experiences during 92-95.

I also think Courtney Love had something to do with Kurts death, because the first Hole album had some songs that i know she is incapable of writing, and some sounded a little too much like Nirvana.

vudu · « **Reply #33 on:** December 16, 2003, 06:47:42 AM »

it's widely known that kurt helped write lots of the songs on "live through this". i'm not sure, but i think he even got a writing credit in the liner notes. but that doesn't mean that courtney had anything to do with his death.

kurt tried to kill himself 6 weeks before he actually did, in rome by o.d.'ing on pills. i believe he was in a coma for something like six days. after he woke up, they checked him into a rehab clinic where he stayed for a few weeks before checking himself out. he then disappeared for a little less than a week before they found him dead in his home.

he killed himself. face it. no conspiracy. no murder. no forged suicide note. he shot himself in the head.

if you're interested, i'd recommend checking out his journal which was published sometime last year. it gives some insight into his very troubled mind.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #34 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:05:20 AM »

"But I also kind of wonder if any of them actually own any of the CD's besides Nevermind and the greatest hits."

Considering they only released three studio albums I think owning only those two CDs is pretty good. Anything beyond that is pretty much for hardcore fans only.

I agree with kingvudu that there probably was nothing beyond Kurt merely killing himself. He was a drug addict with depression problems. If he wasn't famous nobody would be surprised by his suicide.

Kraven · « **Reply #35 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:53:22 AM »

Well the "suicide attempt" in Rome was actually not labeled a suicide attempt after he commited suicide in April. Many of Kurt's close friend actually said he wasn't suicidal. Just because your depressed doesnt make you suiicidal. Also the "suicide note" was really not believed to be one. It was Kurt saying that he was retiring from Nirvana and music and was leaving Courtney. Also Nirvana has released 4 studio albums, Bleach, Nevermind, Incesticide and In Utero. But Incesticide is songs that had recorded earlier in their career. Also to blackfootsteps yeah I do like both versions of Polly, I dont even remember when I wrote that list. But I can add a coupla songs like Floyd the Barber, Negative Creep and Love Buzz off of Bleach. And definitely agree there are no real similiarites between Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains except that they all came out at the same time and were all basically from the same area. Temple of the Dog was such an awesome collaboration. I wish Eddie had a little more vocal time though.

vudu · « **Reply #36 on:** December 16, 2003, 09:52:49 AM »

kraven - i've read many things regarding the suicide note being a "i'm quitting the music biz" note. it's backed up a little by the fact the only time it mentions death is the last line, which is written in slightly different handwriting. however, and i already said this in my earlier post, read his journal. every other page is written in different hand writing. kurt didn't seem to have just one style. some pages are written in all caps, others all lowercase, others cursive. he seemed to go back and forth quite liberally. it's entirely possible he didn't write the entire note in a single sitting. (i.e. write a note, take some heroin, write some more.) in other words, don't read too much into it (no pun intended.)

vudu · « **Reply #37 on:** December 16, 2003, 10:02:42 AM »

and while we're at it, sid vicious killed nancy spungen. end of story. no mysterious drug dealer, no insane fan. just sid. nancy. a knife. and a boatload of drugs. get over it.

Kraven · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2004, 08:16:34 PM »

Well, tomorrow, well today, is the 10th anniversary of Kurt Cobains death. I don't know what to say. Nirvana is far and away my favorite band of all time. Their music is genius, Kurt Cobain was something else. I wish he was still around. I'm still backing the whole he was murdered thing. Another book was released about the conspiracy on Saturday, I have to go pick it up.
For all of the lucky people who have MTV 2 theres going to be alot of stuff on Nirvana and Kurt Cobain tomorrow. They're showing the Unplugged set which I am excited about. I wish they released that on DVD. It would be great to own. "What else should I write? I don't have the right" haha so simple but so effective, I leave you with my favorite Nirvana song "Heart-Shaped Box" off of In Utero

She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak, I've been locked inside your heart shaped box for weeks, Ive been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap, I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black. HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice. Meat eating orchids forgive no one just yet, cut myself on angels hair and babys breath, broken hymen of your highness I'm left black, throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back. HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice.She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak, I've been locked inside your heart shaped box for weeks, Ive been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap, I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black.HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice.

RIP Kurt Cobain 1967-1994

Jale · « **Reply #39 on:** April 05, 2004, 01:37:40 PM »

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Nirvana is like the Beatles they revolutionized stayed around for a bit and left but still left a mark on the industry.

They also shared another thing: a woman caused both bands to split up. Yoko Ono mad the band part, Courtney Love made the sides of her husband's head part.

evil intentions · « **Reply #40 on:** April 05, 2004, 03:09:20 PM »

I thought this thread died long ago...

The Omen · « **Reply #41 on:** April 05, 2004, 05:10:01 PM »

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if you're interested, i'd recommend checking out his journal which was published sometime last year. it gives some insight into his very troubled mind.

Maybe you should read my journal, which I assure you is just as disturbing. But i'm not going to kill myself. And, I said I think Courtney Love had something to do with his death. Doesn't make it so. Nor does it make the 'official' diagnosis true.

Kingvudu believes the 'single bullet theory' as well.

Evil intentions, this thread was resurrected because of the tenth 'anniversary' of Cobains 'suicide', I suppose.

Kraven · « **Reply #42 on:** April 06, 2004, 09:51:02 AM »

I'm sure your journal is interesting Omen. I don't think I could read his journal, its like invading his personal thoughts. I feel Courtney Love is taking advantage of his legacy with that journal. I bought the Love and Death book, the new one, I read it, it was pretty good. The only problem is no one knows who pulled the trigger of the gun if not Kurt Cobain, theres great evidence that he was murdered but no one knows who pulled the trigger. Some guy said Courtney Love said she would pay him 50 grand to kill him, he passed a lie detector. But he got mysteriously run over by a train. I think one of the weirdest things is that Courtney Loves own father believes she had something to do with the death of Kurt.

The Omen · « **Reply #43 on:** April 06, 2004, 11:07:04 AM »

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I feel Courtney Love is taking advantage of his legacy with that journal.

Like she does with everything she has done.

I read about that guy getting killed by the train, and details are sparse , of course. Then we have people who refuse to consider anything besides the 'official' write-up of what happened.

Kraven · « **Reply #44 on:** April 06, 2004, 01:07:21 PM »

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Then we have people who refuse to consider anything besides the 'official' write-up of what happened.

My friends are like that about the whole death of Kurt Cobain, I get ridiculed for saying I don't believe he committed suicide, they're very close minded about it all. There all like he was a suicidal psycho, but he wasn't suicidal, all of his close friends said he wasn't. At the time of his death, he was pretty clean and was happier than he had ever been, he had Frances Bean and his stomach ailment had been fixed. The only person who was saying he was suicidal was Courtney Love. I hope the case is re-opened. It deserves to be, there is so much evidence that it was a homicide. If it wasn't true wouldnt you think Courtney Love would be suing the living begeezus out of the authors of these books? Why hasn't she? We all know she is a greedy, s.o.b.

Uglydot · « **Reply #45 on:** April 07, 2004, 11:14:22 AM »

Well, one thing we can agree on, his death was a blow to the music industry, regardless of how it went. Nirvana was a great band with a great lead singer/guitar, and they are missed.

The Omen · « **Reply #46 on:** April 07, 2004, 03:56:42 PM »

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Well, one thing we can agree on, his death was a blow to the music industry, regardless of how it went. Nirvana was a great band with a great lead singer/guitar, and they are missed.

I kind of disagree with that , to some extent. I think Nirvana breaking the monotany of music in the early 90's was the great thing about them. I don't think they would have been a great band after 94. Nor do I think they were a great band in general. They shook things up, which I appreciate, but thats about the extent of it for me. I compare them with the Sex Pistols, and grunge with the punk era of '77 - '80....

Uglydot · « **Reply #47 on:** April 07, 2004, 04:06:21 PM »

I would have liked one more CD out of them. Thought I agree that the best part was that they broke things up. I don't think they should have gone on like Metallica has, but one more CD would have been nice, and I wanted to see them live, given my age, that would not happen earlier.

Kraven · « **Reply #48 on:** April 07, 2004, 05:36:50 PM »

Sigh, yeah I too would have appreciated one more album. I love In Utero, I think its superior to Nevermind but thats probably just me. I think the next album would have been alot more out there, but I think it would have been maybe a little more happy, well not happy just the lyrics would be less dark. It really doesnt matter because they were going to break up anyway. I read somewhere that Kurt was planning on joining Hole which would totally contradict his feelings at the time of his death. I think he would have just retired. There are too many questions left unanswered because of his death. What could have been?

The Omen · « **Reply #49 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:30:27 AM »

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I don't think they should have gone on like Metallica has, but one more CD would have been nice, and I wanted to see them live, given my age, that would not happen earlier.

Well, they would have never gone on for 22 years like Metallica, considering they were only at 5. Only iconic bands can last through multiple changes in the music industry. Metallica has survived because they don't change their music with every trend. They've become less heavy, yes, but they still are one hell of a hard rock/metal band. Nirvana would have died with grunge.

I saw Nirvana live in '92, and it was a great show. I want to say it was at Lollapalooza, but given how many shows i've seen, its hard to pinpoint it exactly.

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Author Topic: A tribute to Nirvana (Read 13253 times)