Topic: E3 2013 discussion thread

[Shaymin]

The money I'll save on games with Plus after the first year will more than make up for the cost of Plus.

No DRM/online check in = big boot
$399 = legdrop

[Shorty McNostril]

So while we were all high fiving ourselves during Sony serving Microsoft, they dropped the small print.


PS4 multiplayer online access requires PSN account & PS Plus subscription.

$5/month.  No big deal.

[Toruresu]

Wow. Sony just showed how a company learns from it's mistakes. This will be a Sony vs Nintendo generation. MS is a non factor.

[Mannypon]

I do have to say, Sony basically pulled MS on stage and pulled their underwear down and everyone just laughed lol.  Well the equivalent of such a gesture took place lol.  MS has clearly become the odd man out of the big 3. 
 
 As for the conference, nothing mind blowing but I do have to say

Des sum perrty graphix in dem dear gamez.
 
400 dollars to boot too?  F me man, it'll be a PCWiiS4 gen for me lol.  I don't see me being there day 1 but def as soon as I see a system seller I'll take the plunge. 
 
On a somewhat related note, Nintendo HAS and I repeat HAS, to lower the price of the WiiU now.  It doesn't have to be tomorrow but definitely before these next systems launch. 

[Shorty McNostril]

The money I'll save on games with Plus after the first year will more than make up for the cost of Plus.

No DRM/online check in = big boot
$399 = legdrop

I think curbstomp would be a more apt description.

[magicpixie]

I wasn't expecting that from Sony.  That was great.  I loved the look of Transistor.  Price point is perfect, imo.  No DRM, no online checks, just games.  That's how it's done, Microsoft.  I wonder if Sony had to wrangle publishers into going along with this.

I'm already a member of PS+ and I've enjoyed the free games, so keeping that 'scrip going won't be a big deal for me.  At least we can still play single player games offline!

[TrueNerd]

Indies, no used game anti consumer bullshit, no always online bullshit, hundred dollars cheaper. Sony just fucking crushed it. Thank God.

[alegoicoe]

Official Microsoft is fucked, Sony will definitely be my option down the road. Am glad Sony decided to counter Microsoft instead of going along with the xbox one draconian policies.

[nickmitch]

So while we were all high fiving ourselves during Sony serving Microsoft, they dropped the small print.


PS4 multiplayer online access requires PSN account & PS Plus subscription.

$5/month.  No big deal.

With free games, though MS is giving you that now.

Sony has definitely won this E3, but Nintendo can still save the Wii U.

[Soren]

So after today, I'm definitely not getting an Xbone.  Kingdom Hearts 3 is my PS4 killer app, but I know that's nowhere near launch. So unless another huge bomb gets dropped I can wait for a second console to complement my Wii U.

[Shorty McNostril]

In all honesty, Nintendo will have to bring out a miracle to even make a mark on Sony's presentation. 

With the handicap of it's comparably limited power.

[magicpixie]

I thought Destiny looked boring, too, until the public event happened.  This looks like it could be a spin on the Borderlands formula with all the loot-whoring.

Might get it at launch to support the system, but it probably won't be necessary.  I just really want to stick it in MS's eye, now.  Maybe that will get them to reconsider their policy.

[EasyCure]

Hey! It's a black box. Didn't see that one coming.

but it has a throw-black blue line too!

[ShyGuy]

So what does everyone think of the games shown so far? Nothing new has jumped out at me yet. We seem to be deep into the Sci-Fi shooter era again.

[Adrock]

Wow. Sony is being very aggressive. I'm still sticking with Wii U, but from what I read, Sony has been saying all the right things. Microsoft is in a bind. They're launching a (possibly) slightly less powerful console for $100 more. How does that even happen?

I expect Nintendo to launch a White Deluxe Set with a price drop price later this year, but they won't announce it tomorrow. We're just going to see games from Nintendo. Here's hoping for some surprises.

[nickmitch]

So what does everyone think of the games shown so far? Nothing new has jumped out at me yet. We seem to be deep into the Sci-Fi shooter era again.

The indy games looked great.

[EasyCure]

So what does everyone think of the games shown so far? Nothing new has jumped out at me yet. We seem to be deep into the Sci-Fi shooter era again.

The Order struck me as... odd. Destiny looked meh and I'm really curious about that Dark Sorcerer.

The only stuff that really excited me was the indie stuff, like Transistor. I have no plans of getting a PS4 anyway (i'm a one console gamer) but I can't lie, this conference was pretty damn good despite the games being bland to me. At least they showed gameplay.

[magicpixie]

So what does everyone think of the games shown so far? Nothing new has jumped out at me yet. We seem to be deep into the Sci-Fi shooter era again.

That's always going to be the case until they just stop selling.  I am optimistic about Sony's self-publishing policy.  Seeing that Quantic Dream trailer made me excited for the potential the increased graphic fidelity offers as a narrative device. 

I had a post all about the hype and inevitable disappointment that generally occurs around E3.  People tend to forget about the long development time for a product like a video game.  I would hope that the  games should really start to leverage the machine's power around the third year of the console's lifespan.  Launch games tend to be holdovers from the last gen that didn't make it in time, or just straight out "crossgen" titles.

I am excited about Destiny, for sure.  I love coop shooters, so I'll be all over that.

Microsoft is in a bind. They're launching a (possibly) slightly less powerful console for $100 more. How does that even happen?

I think you're forgetting about the awesome power of the cloud!

[Mannypon]

Yeah, none of the games have really stood out to me outside of some really nice looking graphics but nothing mind blowing.  Everything still looks more of the same just bigger and more detailed.  Some fun experiences look to be had but nothing day 1 worthy as of yet.  I'll def pick up a PS4 but more than likely it'll be sometime next year.  My WiiU, PS3, and PC will hold me down well into the next couple of years if need be. 
 
Nintendo does need to come out with some surprise games tomorrow outside of their franchise titles.  I also think they need to showcase the WiiU's graphics a bit more so as to not seem outdated so soon.  I'm really hoping X has a big showing tomorrow along with Retro's game (hope to high heaven that its a system showcase piece).  I also would love to see a sequel to ZombiU.  I think the first one looked great and I can only imagine how much better a sequel would look with more time under the developer's belt to better pull from the system's strengths.   

[AnGer]

From the games shown this far, my favourites are:
Kingdom Hearts III
Mirror's Edge
Final Fantasy XV (and I get to laugh at some people in the next few days because I already said last year that FF Vs XIII is going to be renamed)
Destiny
Dark Souls II
Knack (OK, this was already shown at Sony's PS4 event... but still)

So yeah... getting a PS4. Definitely.

[MagicCow64]

Caught last half of the conference, thought that it was basically lame, but incredibly well-crafted as a knife into MS's side. I'm an old-school Sony hater, but that used game sharing video is amazing (hope it's real!). And their presentation nicely leveled the debut of so many multiplatforms to create a Shakespearean villain illusion of power.

I also was convinced that Sony was going to tap dance into the minefield after MS with the DRM and price ****. So good on them! I hope I won't have to buy one some day!

But yeah, can't see Ndo is gonna but into this conversation significantly.

[Luigi Dude]

The Xbox brand is now officially dead.  No one has a single reason to buy the Xbox One now when they can get 99% of the same games on the PS4, for $100 cheaper and don't have to deal with all the bullshit.


Here where neglecting your first party studio's is going to finally bite Microsoft in the ass.  Outside of Halo, they have no major exclusive IP's that can drive mass sales for their system.  Of course, with Call of Duty becoming the most popular FPS series this last gen, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Halo fans leave the series because Call of Duty is a bigger deal and they can get that on the PS4.


Seriously, Sony pretty much has the 18-34 male audience locked up now, and after tomorrow Nintendo will have the family audience locked up.  The Xbox One is now a system that has no appeal to anyone except the most hardcore Halo fans which isn't going to be able to sell enough system for Microsoft to make any profit whatsoever.

[broodwars]

Well, Sony just won the generation, and I couldn't be happier. Although they still did absolutely NOTHING to help the Vita, they showed some cool new games (The Order); they showed big games; they showed LOTS of Indie games; and at the end of the day, they stood with the consumer. Even here at home, you could just feel the ripple of energy in that room when Jack Tretton walked up on stage and very openly flipped off Microsoft: first with the announcement of no Used Game DRM and no online requirement, and then with the $400 price point. Game over, Microsoft.

Man, what a great Feel Good moment that last half hour of the press conference was, and as a result I'm feeling optimistic about the industry for the first time in probably a year. I can't even bring myself to hate on Sony for now requiring PS+ to play online on the PS4, b/c PS+ is a fantastic deal anyway.

Your move now, Nintendo. Will you step up and show why you deserve to be in 2nd place now, or will you allow the Wii U to fall even further into irrelevance? I'm excited to find out.

[Adrock]

Your move now, Nintendo. Will you step up and show why you deserve to be in 2nd place now, or will you allow the Wii U to fall even further into irrelevance? I'm excited to find out.

Nintendo is showing Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros. tomorrow as a start. They're second by default.

Anyway, thank you for this, Internet.

[broodwars]

Your move now, Nintendo. Will you step up and show why you deserve to be in 2nd place now, or will you allow the Wii U to fall even further into irrelevance? I'm excited to find out.

Nintendo is showing Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros. tomorrow as a start. They're second by default.

While I agree with you, merely having the games isn't enough. They have to be good, too. We can't have any Other M-class failures in that lineup.