Topic: Nintendo hope to introduce Retro's new Wii U game in 'not so distant future'

[NIN_T]

http://officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/49137/nintendo-hope-to-introduce-retros-new-wii-u-game-in-not-so-distant-future/

Place your bets folks. What do you think it is?

Personally, I'm hoping for a new Starfox. Maybe even a reboot. The constant changing of hands of the series has screwed up the story for me. Would love to see a game with Starfox 64 gameplay brought back. Loved the flying scenes in Starfox Adventure. The Arwing model in that game still looks good now.

[the asylum]

fzero fzero fzero fzero fzero no whammy no whammy STOP

[Adrock]

A new IP.

[Pixelated Pixies]

A new IP.

Yes, please.

[Shaymin]

Nintendo's plan to make 100 billion yen:

- Announce Retro's on Mario Kart 8 next Sunday AD
- Bottle the tears of fanboy rage and sell them at a decent price
- Trillions of dollars

I think it's something new or DKCR2, which would be appropriate for a company with a .300 batting average. They've probably got the 2nd team helping out with 8, though.

[azeke]

A new IP.

A good game.

[lolmonade]

A new IP.

I'd like to see that, but given the current Wii U circumstances, I doubt Nintendo would leverage Retro Studios for something like that.  Nintendo needs to unleash their established franchises on the Wii U to get sales moving, and given the franchises they've already mentioned they're working on (3D Mario, Mariokart, Smash Bros), I'd guess it'll be something Retro Studios has already shown they can do well, like Metriod or Donkey Kong.

[Pixelated Pixies]

A good game.

It's Retro. That it would be a good game is implied.

[Spak-Spang]

I think Nintendo should let Retro come up with the next "Goldeneye" or "Perfect Dark" for the Wii U.  We all know that one good hit franchise can swing popularity for a system.  It happened with Halo.  And we all know Nintendo doesn't have one of those games yet. 

The question is what direction does Retro take it.  If they go futuristic and Scifi people will say Nintendo is copying Halo and that is some tough competition to follow.  If they make it modern combat, then you have all the competition with the Call of Duty type games. 

If they try something different, something too colorful or out there they will be blamed for making the genre Nintendo kiddie. 

So I don't envy trying to do that.  But having a team that is batting this much success should try to get their chance at an original labor of love.

[the asylum]

I've said it before: A Mario Paintball FPS will have me squealing like a giddy schoolgirl

[Adrock]

All the usual suspects are working on Nintendo franchises (e.g. Aonuma's team is working on Zelda). While I wouldn't be surprised if Retro Studios is working on Metroid or Donkey Kong, I think it would benefit Nintendo far more if one of their best teams works on something decidedly not typical of Nintendo. Such a project could attract people who aren't fans of Nintendo games to the platform which can only be a good thing considering is stuggling to find an audience outside the Nintendo faithful with its woeful third party support. Maybe Nintendo doesn't care about that. Then again, maybe they should.

Semi-related, I have to wonder if Monster Games is being groomed to inherit the Donkey Kong Country series, like the 3DS port of Returns is an audition or training camp of sorts for what Nintendo wants them to do: make a sequel so Retro Studios can do something else.

[NWR_insanolord]

I know I should want a new IP, but to be honest I'd really rather they be making Star Fox.

[azeke]

Such a project could attract people who aren't fans of Nintendo games to the platform

Between a game not aimed at me and a game aimed at me i choose a game for me.

"We want a Call of Duty audience and so should you because reasons" is not a good compromise when i'm missing out on the fun.

So yeah, i still choose "a good game".

[Fatty The Hutt]

I've said it before: A Mario Paintball FPS will have me squealing like a giddy schoolgirl

I love this idea.


But my money's still on Retro doing Mario Kart.

[Adrock]

Between a game not aimed at me and a game aimed at me i choose a game for me.

Who said you wouldn't still like the game? Just because something isn't an existing Nintendo property doesn't mean it's totally inaccessible to Nintendo fans. You're making the assumption that I'm suggesting something akin to Call of Duty which is your prerogative, but ultimately, your problem, not mine.

So yeah, i still choose "a good game".

That's a given. It's not even worth pointing out. "No, I want a bad game," said no one ever.

[Pixelated Pixies]

Does Nintendo still own Eternal Darkness? Although I'd still prefer an original game, if Retro are to be put to work on a pre-existing IP then I'd be jazzed to see them revive ED. I freaking love that game. One of the best things about the Prime games was their sense of atmosphere, so I can see Retro being quite well suited to a horror game.
 
Plus, who doesn't want to see ED in HD?

[TJ Spyke]

I know Nintendo at least owns the Eternal Darkness trademark, not sure if they own or co-own the actual game though.

[ShyGuy]

Grim and Gritty Megaman FPS.

[Ian Sane]

I've said it before: A Mario Paintball FPS will have me squealing like a giddy schoolgirl

So it's basically a cutesy kiddy FPS?  Nintendo doesn't have ANY FPS franchise.  I would prefer they make one more for the teen-to-adult audience.  Mario is overused and I would find an FPS with him in it incredibly dull.  The genre is inherently violent and paintball version would seem like Nintendo treating me like a baby.  Nintendo used to have Goldeneye and Perfect Dark so if they were to introduce a new FPS IP I would want something that effectively replaces that and aims at a similar audience.  It doesn't have to be a big gorefest but Nintendo has enough Mario games and enough cutesy family friendly series.  They don't need another one.

As for Retro, I'm guessing either a new Donkey Kong game, a return to Metroid or they'll give them Mario Kart.  I'm assuming something that is an existing IP.  I don't want that but I figure if I hope for anything else I'll just get let down.  A revival of an old Nintendo IP is probably the best we could hope for.  They probably could save Star Fox.

[Adrock]

I'm not so bothered by the "cutesy, kiddy" thing than I am of the idea of playing a Mario game in first person. It's almost like taking Mario out of the game with no immediate benefit or reason. A game like Metroid Prime made sense in first person because Samus already uses a gun/arm-cannon. Even though Mario has been in so many spin-offs, a paintball game just seems forced to me. Not saying it can't work, I just don't understand the appeal.

If Nintendo insists on releasing a non-violent FPS, they can certainly do so without using Mario (e.g. Miis) and especially without having Retro Studios, of all teams, developing it. If Retro Studios were to develop a Mario game, I'd much rather it be a 2D side scroller considering how amazing Donkey Kong Country Returns was. 2D Mario could certainly use a heavy dose of imagination not really seen in the New series.

My hope is that Retro Studios uses its immense talent on something that reaches a lot of people and reminds us all how good video games can be, something that isn't just paint-by-numbers or following trends. As I've said before, Metroid Prime was one of those games that changed the way I look at games; it set a new bar. I think Retro Studios still has it in them to make a game with the same impact. It's good for Wii U and it's good for the industry.

[BranDonk Kong]

Metroid Prime Reach
Metroid Prime 3 ODST
Metroid Prime 4

Seriously though it needs to be a Metroid Prime game. Using the UMote as a scanner (in all directions, mind you, like in Panorama View) would be awesome...but maybe tedious after a while.

[Ian Sane]

My hope is that Retro Studios uses its immense talent on something that reaches a lot of people and reminds us all how good video games can be, something that isn't just paint-by-numbers or following trends. As I've said before, Metroid Prime was one of those games that changed the way I look at games; it set a new bar. I think Retro Studios still has it in them to make a game with the same impact. It's good for Wii U and it's good for the industry.

Metroid Prime really did knock my socks off when it came out.  It exceeded my expectations of what any videogame could do.  I think that's part of my general disinterest in DKC Returns.  That is a well-made game but that's really all it has going for it.  Gaming as a whole was completely unaffected by DKC Returns' existence as it really just did things that had already been done before.  Hell, it wasn't even the game that kickstarted the 2D platformer revival (and that is somewhat appropriate since the original DKC was well-made but was only treaded new ground in its graphics).  Now most games don't have the impact of Metroid Prime but that is really why we see Retro as something special.  Do they have another game in them as impressive and creative as Metroid Prime?  If so they won't create it if Nintendo assigns them to work on Mario Kart tracks.  Metroid in 3D was such new ground that it might as well have been a new IP.  If they get Star Fox, they'll likely at best make a great Star Fox game but unless the scope of Star Fox is greatly expanded it won't be anything truly original because you can only take a conventional sequel so far.

[Fatty The Hutt]

I see the "Mario Paintball" thing as being to FPS what Smash Bros. is to fighters. It could be Nintendo's unique take on the genre and it could be really good if handled well.


Heck it could just be Smash Bros. FPS. That might be cool.

[Fjurbanski]

Mario paintball would probably be a 3rd person shooter. Gotta be able to see those classic mascots.


That game could be really good and really funny. I'd like to see something like it.

[Ian Sane]

I remember in Mickey's Speedway for the N64 the characters apologize to each other as they pass each other in the race.  That comes across as really wimpy little kid stuff and is a huge turnoff to anyone a little older.  Since the FPS genre is about shooting people, paintball comes across as embarassingly wimpy.  In SSB they still HIT each other.  It isn't like they're whacking each other with wiffle bats and giggling while they're doing it.  Paintball to me screams "this is for pussies that can't handle a real FPS".  Now with Mario I can't see another way to do it but why does Mario have to even be involved?

Hardcore fighting fanatics weren't hot for SSB entirely because it simplified special moves, not because the content made it any less violent than a typical fighting game, aside from Mortal Kombat.  Goldeneye shows that Nintendo can make an FPS that isn't an 'M' rated gorefest but still doesn't come across as excessively toned down for little kids and wimps.