Topic: Injustice: Free S-U-P-E-R Gods Among Us

[Fatty The Hutt]

All of the above hesitations from various folks are valid criticisms, if a little picky. I think I just like the IP. And I like that they are going Over-The-Top with the special moves. Makes it fun and comic-book-y.


I am a little concerned by someone's observation that the various battle videos are not actual in-game fight footage. That could be a big problem.

[Ceric]

Shazam has the speed of Mercury though, so he might be able to handle the Flash.

Always saw it the same as superman. Supes and Shazam and fast but pale in comparison to anyone who can tap into the speed force.

Shazam vs Flash is the same fight as Superman vs Flash from a powers point of view.

Shazam/Superman just have to endure of the different Flash.  While they are faster Shazam and Superman are much slower and have much more endurance then any of the Flash. 


Oh also its been established that if the Lightning doesn't connect with Shazam he doesn't change.  He's used that to his advantage against Superman since Superman is weak against Magic.

[shingi_70]

Well yeah all superman or Shazam has to do is get one hit on the flash and they could win. In the fist arc of the recent justice league series there is a nice example of this. Superman can't touch the flash and it isn't till flash stops does Clark literally take him out with a finger flick.

[nickmitch]

I thought he more so predicted Flash's movements than The Flash actually stopping. Moving is what was what was winning the fight for him.

[shingi_70]

Not sure if it adds fire to the next gen xbox always online rumors or not, But upcoming game Ascend new gods is going to be online only even when player the game's single player component.
 
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/06/ascend-new-gods-beta-coming-requires-online-connection
 
Microsoft also announced a new hub on the xbox live dashboard this one aimed at the Latin American audience called Zona Latina.
Yesterday Microsoft livestreamed a short video hour long gears of war judgement video. Game looks good but its going to be interesting how well the game will do with little marketing.
 
Fnally I want this bad
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Had something to post about smartglass but i'll do that later.

[Fatty The Hutt]

^^^ Wrong thread, shingi
Go back to your X-Box  :

[Spak-Spang]

Well, speed is part of the equation that makes force, and so I have no doubt that Flash could hurt Superman and Shazam...but that punch or kick would be like hitting an immovable rock.  You may crack it, but you also break your bodies. 

And it all depends on which Superman and Flash, because it has been noted that Flash is the Fastest Human alive, but Superman ain't human, and while I believe Flash may be faster than him...he is not that much faster in speed/velocity, otherwise no one could ever hit him. 

I honestly don't know how you would design a flash based character...for a fighting game, unless you have them the fastest speed in the game, and created a formula to slow down other characters speed of attacks against him...dependent on a speed variable assigned to each character...which actually could be cool game mechanic.

So for Batman's moves verse flash they are slowed down by 10%, but for Superman's only 3%  Other characters would be in that range.

[Stogi]

I also never played with my action figures when I was a kid. But then again, I rarely laughed too.

[TJ Spyke]

I think the episode of Justice League Unlimited showed well what would happen if Superman and Captain Marvel (his alternate name of Shazam is stupid, I hope the game uses his actual name of Captain Marvel). Marvel would put up a good fight, but eventually Superman would beat the crap out of him (in the show, he picked up a building and slammed it on Marvel over and over).

Flash is fast, but not that strong.

[shingi_70]

Shazam is the name of the wizard so for a name it makes sense.
 
 

[Spak-Spang]

Yes, but the important name change is because Marvel Comics also has a Captain Marvel character...it gets kinda confusing.  I don't like Shazam as a name either...but I understand the need to differentiate the two characters.

[Ceric]

Yes, but the important name change is because Marvel Comics also has a Captain Marvel character...it gets kinda confusing.  I don't like Shazam as a name either...but I understand the need to differentiate the two characters.

I like it.  I have a Shazam Boxcar at home.

I think the episode of Justice League Unlimited showed well what would happen if Superman and Captain Marvel (his alternate name of Shazam is stupid, I hope the game uses his actual name of Captain Marvel). Marvel would put up a good fight, but eventually Superman would beat the crap out of him (in the show, he picked up a building and slammed it on Marvel over and over).

Flash is fast, but not that strong.

Superman took advantage of his inexperience.

[shingi_70]

Yes, but the important name change is because Marvel Comics also has a Captain Marvel character...it gets kinda confusing.  I don't like Shazam as a name either...but I understand the need to differentiate the two characters.

Shazam also works better from an origin and branding perspective. You don't have to explain why billy says the wizards named but is called captain Marvel.
Now you can just say he names himself after the wizard and power that turns him into magic superman. t makes even more sense seeing that the wizard is dead in the current comics universe.

[Spak-Spang]

And it makes sense because he is a KID, naming himself.  What do you call yourself?  I know...my secret magic words. 

Plus, if anybody heard the echo of this name or Shazam call down lightning of course they would call the character that.

And Shazam was created to be a very similar character in strength and virtue to Superman...but instead of "the American Way" being the right way and the values of a traditional farmers do the right thing ethic running through Superman's body.

It is the heart of a wholesome boy that sees a simple right and wrong, good and bad that motivates him in his fight...but because the adult world is full of grays it makes it harder for him, than perhaps it does Superman. 

[pokepal148]

hmm injustice: gods among us, that name reminds me of something what could it be
oh thats right the forums

[shingi_70]

And it makes sense because he is a KID, naming himself.  What do you call yourself?  I know...my secret magic words. 

Plus, if anybody heard the echo of this name or Shazam call down lightning of course they would call the character that.

And Shazam was created to be a very similar character in strength and virtue to Superman...but instead of "the American Way" being the right way and the values of a traditional farmers do the right thing ethic running through Superman's body.

It is the heart of a wholesome boy that sees a simple right and wrong, good and bad that motivates him in his fight...but because the adult world is full of grays it makes it harder for him, than perhaps it does Superman.

Agreed with everything you said and t makes me sad that the current version of billy is more of a realistic character instead of blind naïve optimism of most takes on the character.  The Shazam moments have been pretty fun and gives an interesting dynamic to Billy.
Yeah the light heartedness and optimism is what's so great about Shazam.

[shingi_70]

 
A new trailer featuring Lex Luther. Really not feeling it this time since this seems to miss the whole damn point of the Lex Luther character.  The whole point of the character was that he believes that he is in the right and is actually protecting the world from superman (though he would probably be just as bad as guy with out Kal coming to earth). If anything Lex would be spear heading the resistance because as much as he likes to be on the winning team, his hatred for Superman would outweigh that as this is what Luthor has been saying all the time come to fruition.
 
 

[Spak-Spang]

True Lex Luthir isn't evil.  He believes in man's quest to full better himself through all means.  He sees Superman as a threat to his reality.  Man should not need a savior, a protector...especially, of the weak, because the weak are worthless to Lex. 

[Spak-Spang]

Lex doesn't choose the winning side...he IS the winning side.  In that he is supposed to be either the 1st or 2nd most intelligent human in the DC Universe.  He is the great stratigist, not some pawn.  He has his hands in everything, controlling it like a puppet...but his ego is always his downfall, and his control always I lovethe cartoon series Justice League and Young Justice, for this very reason.  They get and understand Luthor.  He is actually a very hard character to write....much like The Joker is very hard to write well.

[TJ Spyke]

Except Luther has shown he IS evil, and merely uses his hatred of Superman to pretend he is doing right. He desires power above anything else, and sees Superman as the threat to that goal. His character knows he is in the wrong, but he doesnt care because he wants power and he wants Superman dead.

[shingi_70]

Young Justice has one of the best Lex Luther interpretations in a while. If its one thing the show has done right is that the Villains are compelling.
 
 
 
 

[Spak-Spang]

TJ Spike:  It isn't that he is evil.  He has a different view of the world around him.  To him, the entire human existence is about "evolving" pushing the race forward for the better of mankind.  That process is not a nice process it is a survival of the fittest, and in a modern day society that means...becoming the best you, you can be without limitations. 

So Lex views himself as striving to be the perfect man.  His hatred of Superman stems from the fact, this alien exists that just was born with all this power.  He surpasses Lex Luthor in every way (or so Lex believes) and he or really any man can never be better than him.  Add to that this "super" man has a completely opposite philosophy, that man kinds strife to become better man is not about becoming the best YOU at any cost, but at serving and caring for the people and community you love.  It is about doing the right thing even when it is difficult, and even when you will lose much to do the right thing.

In Lex Luthor's mind there is no right or wrong, moral or immoral, there is only survival and betterment.  It is about how you can manipulate the systems in place, strength your physical and mental self, improve and raise your status in this world, and nothing and no one should stand in mans path to do so. 

In this way, Lex Luthor is Superman's exact opposite.  Just like in the same way Joker is Batman's exact opposite.  Even though, they also share similar ideals. 

[nickmitch]

Lex has also mentioned how he feels that Superman hinders human progress. I think what makes him a flawed character is that his search for power has shifted in its underlying goal: from become better to kill Superman. Hell, when given the power to do what he's dreamed of: attain ultimate power, become the sole source of happiness in the world; he throws it away to try and kill Superman. Because he didn't want Supes to benefit from him.

But the key fact is that in his mind, he believes he is right. Going for the side that wins is more in line with Deadpool's MO.

[Stogi]

Lex Luther is the bald one right?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Lex Luther is the bald one right?

So you're a Marvel man too, huh?