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Re: Disney buying Lucasfilm, Star Wars 7 in 2015
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2012, 12:46:18 PM »
I don't "care" about the EU necessarily, I was just wondering if they would try to maintain any continuity with it for the new films. It's probably impossible though, given how dense the post-VI extended universe is at this point. As for the idea that "the original versions are bad", that's some insane bullshit right there.
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« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2012, 12:54:40 PM »
It would be nice if they made an effort to not conflict with the EU, but I don't want them to go out of their way and give up on good ideas just because they don't work within that construct. That's basically the way Star Trek does it, where the novels aren't technically canon, but, at least in recent years, the people making the movies and TV shows have generally tried not to invalidate them when they didn't have to. Some bits from the novels have actually become canon by being written into the shows and movies, like the first names of Kirk's parents in the recent movie.
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« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2012, 12:54:50 PM »
Also,
Just cast new actors. Other movies do this.

This would be terrible. Hey everyone, stop saying terrible things.
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« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2012, 12:56:36 PM »
None of the options are good. You either bring in new actors, which people would hate, bring back the old actors, which might not be possible and would require a lot of work, or just don't have those characters in the movie, which would make them a lot less appealing to most people.
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« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2012, 01:03:44 PM »
just don't have those characters in the movie, which would make them a lot less appealing to most people.

I think that is the only option, and it's a fine one if the movies are well written and well casted, which is quite possible with Lucas out of the way.
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« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2012, 01:05:21 PM »
I think they're a lot less marketable if they don't have any recognizable characters in them.
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« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2012, 01:06:54 PM »
C3PO and R2D2 will still be there (and possibly Chewbacca, Jabba the Hutt etc.)


EDIT: Whoa, forgot Jabba died in VI, great shame :(
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« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2012, 01:07:35 PM »
And the idea that a Star Wars movie would ever have any serious trouble with marketability is funny.
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« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2012, 01:08:49 PM »
I doubt Jabba the Hutt will be there, unless they're doing some serious retconning.
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« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2012, 01:09:17 PM »
Bah, you got me right when I was editing.
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« Reply #60 on: October 31, 2012, 01:10:59 PM »
They should make 3PO and R2 the lead characters of the new films. Give it a real Rosencrantz and Guildenstern vibe. That would be amazing.
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« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2012, 01:13:37 PM »
That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.
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« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2012, 01:15:13 PM »
Wait, Anakin is Darth Vader?

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« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2012, 01:16:09 PM »
That's right, I just spoiled a thirty year old movie. What are you going to do about it? ;)
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« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2012, 01:17:13 PM »
lulz
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« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2012, 01:22:28 PM »
Ewoks III in 2016.
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« Reply #66 on: October 31, 2012, 01:23:33 PM »
That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.
and obi-wan
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« Reply #67 on: October 31, 2012, 01:24:19 PM »
Good call. And Palpatine was in all but IV.
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« Reply #68 on: October 31, 2012, 01:27:26 PM »
same with Yoda
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« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2012, 01:30:08 PM »
That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.
and obi-wan

Sure, if you count very minor cameos in Empire and RotJ. R2 and 3P0 and Anakin were major characters in all six movies.
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« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2012, 01:50:00 PM »
No it doesn't, your missing the point, Greed ALREADY had the gun pulled and told him he was going to kill him. That justifies what Han did, period it was NOT murder. Murder would have have been if he shot him mid sentence even if Greedo never pulled a gun and never threatened him. It was always self defense plain and simple. Lucas just wanted to make it more obvious to appeal to kids.


Look if two guys are sitting in a bar arguing over bounty hunters, one pulls a gun the other guy shoots, it is self defense on the shooters part not murder.


There is a valid complaint about the shot looking terrible, or about how at that close range there is no way he could have missed but the murder aspect is NOT TRUE. It was always self defense.
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« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2012, 01:58:16 PM »
I think Han was justified, but it still changes his character to have fired in DIRECT REACTION to a shot from Greedo, rather than shooting preemptively. Han shooting first shows a higher level of resolve and coldbloodedness, even though it is justified.
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« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2012, 01:59:52 PM »
I haven't watched the movie in a while, but I seem to remember there being a reasonable probability that Greedo wasn't going to shoot and the gun was basically out for a warning. Now, since the gun was out I'm not sure I'd call it murder, but shooting after he already shot at you is different from shooting first, and takes away from his character.

EDIT: What Grant said.
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« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2012, 02:00:49 PM »
That said, I am not up in arms about that change very much (other than the fact that Greedo's shot comes out at a 30 degree angle or something doesn't it? Don't remember completely.)
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