Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1

[Shaymin]

Sony phones have always been a strong player in overseas markets but a total non-starter in NA.

The fact that the first phone to release worldwide including NA is their Z3 THIS YEAR...

[lolmonade]

Ok, Sony, I need you to do one of two things ASAP:
Let me use a Dualshock 4 as my controller if using my Vita as an off-TV play option,
And/or
Let me chat with my friends through the vita headphone jack when using off-tv play.
 
I've been using off-tv play for 90% of my time playing Destiny.  It works well-enough for playing the game, but not having the option to chat while playing if using the vita for remote play is really garbage.  I'd also obviously prefer the option to use the DS4.

[Ceric]

I believe you can.  JP was complaining on Twitter that he synced his DS4 to his Vita and know can't get it to sync with the PS4.

[lolmonade]

I believe you can.  JP was complaining on Twitter that he synced his DS4 to his Vita and know can't get it to sync with the PS4.

I know there's a "work-around" way, but I think it involves having multiple PSN accounts, and I haven't found out how to do so.  Personally think this is something that's natively supported by Sony, especially considering how hard they're pushing the vita as a PS4 accessory above all-else.

[Ceric]

I know you can natively do a DS3 but that doesn't get what you looking for.  We should play Destiny together sometime.  If you friend me just put a note your from NWR.  As a rule I don't accept friends request without a note unless I definitely know the person.

[lolmonade]

I know you can natively do a DS3 but that doesn't get what you looking for.  We should play Destiny together sometime.  If you friend me just put a note your from NWR.  As a rule I don't accept friends request without a note unless I definitely know the person.

I'm up for some Co-op.  I have a few friends who have Destiny, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to have some people from NWR to have a fireteam for some of the raids, etc.  I'm at level 17 at this point, but I'll be online intermittently this weekend.  I'll add you on PSN sometime this weekend.

[BranDonk Kong]

PS4 outselling Xbone 2:1 in Europe now. Source: the internet.

[shingi_70]

Well deserved success, does the two stand for 2 billion dollars gone. 


But man Sony has killed it this generation even if I hate how much they'ved changed from the PS3 generation. (i mean they can't greenlight projects anymore.).


I wonder how much the playstation division will be effected by the cut backs hitting sony right now. The comapny has been doing poorly and it seems that Kaz Harai hasn't actually did anything to stop the bleed and the company has even made some very odd decisions. (giving Marvel the Animation and Merchandising rights to spider-man in favor of getting all the film profits was dumb in hindsight of where the property is at).


I also question how close The Order and Bloodborne are coming out in, you'd think they would space them out more espcaiily after seeing how well wolfenstien and watch_dogs preformed in that May release slot.




I really home Sony doesn't die as they push a much more art house experience in the game industry.

[ShyGuy]

So I finally got to spend some quality time with a real, live PS4! My thoughts

- The controller is hit and miss, I like the longer handles, the triggers feels good and the dual sticks have great control even if the look tiny. The Share/Options buttons are lousy. They are recessed too much and placement is awkward. The touch pad seems both intrusive and under used at the same time. I'm not sure what value it adds.
- The OS is Playstation Blue and a bit refined from the PS3. I didn't see that much of it.
- Game one -Destiny. Suprisingly I liked it! I will post in the Destiny thread.
- Game two -Blue Estate. Well this game is garbage. Hey! let's make a raunchy waggle rail shooter and somehow make it even worse! PS4 motion aiming makes 2006 Wii remote still look state of the art.
- Game three -Infamous Second Son. This was a real disappointment. Possibly the most unlikeable protagonist in a game ever. An hour in, my cousin turned to me a said "This guy's an idiot" The uncanny valley on his face was unnerving as well. He would show his teeth in the umpteenth cut scene and display his generic outrage about the system. Maybe the fact that I live in the Pacific Northwest and could see all the blatant stereo types and misrepresentation of Seattle helped to sour me on the game. The intro tutorial part was too long and the controls felt worse than the first game.

All in all, I may buy a PS4 when a used one drops to $200 and my PS3 is ready to be put out to pasture.

[azeke]

Holy ****!

Pix The Cat is officially the first exclusive game on PS4 (or Vita for that matter) that i want to play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBvAVa0tBo

Looks sick!

[shingi_70]

Is that supposed to be pac-man?

Also the driveclub controversy does not look good, personally I think the game looks bland, but it looks like evo might be joining the dead studio team.

[ObbyDent]

It's a wonderful mix of snake and pac-man without the ghosts. Plus the amazing music brings the whole package together.

[broodwars]

Eh...I thought Pix was OK in that sort of "Snake meets Pac-Man Championship Edition" sort of way, but nothing altogether special. Maybe it gets more interesting as it goes along.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Holy ****!

Pix The Cat is officially the first exclusive game on PS4 (or Vita for that matter) that i want to play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBvAVa0tBo

Looks sick!

That game looks like an acid trip. Perfect type of game for a party environment.

[Spak-Spang]

This game looks awesome.  But it doesn't seem to really push the system graphically...in fact I find this generation funny.  We have pushed into the next generation not with games that are blowing our collective minds graphically, but with several companies trying to get back to the basics and form fun unique gaming experiences...but then why upgrade...just do this with the previous generation.

[Ceric]

...but then why upgrade...just do this with the previous generation.

And they are.  Hence why people aren't really upgrading.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

Personally I don't think graphics have improved that much since the PS2 era. Lighting has improved, textures and what not but really the games just get a little flashier and the detail gets a little more refined the overall look has been the same or close for a while. The leap to HD was HUGE but after we got used to that it was harder to wow people. I am still planning on getting a PS4 hopefully before Christmas not sure at this point. That particular game looks sick, and I don't mean however the kids are using it I mean it looks like it would make me sick to my stomach to play it would make me dizzy.

[broodwars]

I would have to disagree with that assessment. If you go play a mid-era PS2 game and then compare it to an end-of-life PS3 game, you'd see a pretty staggering change in both game design and presentation.  Hell, I remember being floored a while back when someone here on the forums was arguing that there hadn't been a big graphical leap the last generation, and I was pulling up images of just the launch games from the PS3 and 360. The leap this time is not as significant, but we're only in year 1 of likely 5-7 year consoles. We've seen nothing yet in regards to what these consoles can do.

And considering Sony's 10 million PS4 sales so far, I think they'd disagree that people aren't buying the systems. They're buying them faster than they bought any system at the beginning of the last generation. And yes, that includes the Wii, which had a bit of a wind-up period before the sales just went insane.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

I would have to disagree with that assessment. If you go play a mid-era PS2 game and then compare it to an end-of-life PS3 game, you'd see a pretty staggering change in both game design and presentation.  Hell, I remember being floored a while back when someone here on the forums was arguing that there hadn't been a big graphical leap the last generation, and I was pulling up images of just the launch games from the PS3 and 360. The leap this time is not as significant, but we're only in year 1 of likely 5-7 year consoles. We've seen nothing yet in regards to what these consoles can do.

And considering Sony's 10 million PS4 sales so far, I think they'd disagree that people aren't buying the systems. They're buying them faster than they bought any system at the beginning of the last generation. And yes, that includes the Wii, which had a bit of a wind-up period before the sales just went insane.

I'm not saying they aren't better just that the stuff that has improved isn't as noticable as in previous generations it takes comparisons and side by side videos to really nitpick over mostly tiny details.

I don't think I was saying nobody is buying the system that was someone else but I agree with you there I was even going to say something similar to what you said. My thing is yes the graphics are better but not so mind blowingly better the leaps have gotten smaller, at least not as big as they used to. I also wasn't talking game design or presentation I said overall graphics, for the most part they have been pretty close the details have gotten better or rather there are more details but the over all look of the games hasn't changed that much. Its not like going from SNES to N64 then PS2 man that was a huge leap these last two shifts were more incremental like going from SNES to NEO GEO, an improvement sure but not a HUGE improvement.

[Ian Sane]

Last gen was the first one where visually the launch games didn't immediately blow away the previous gen.  I think that will just be the norm now as the improvements will be subtler and it will take a few years before there is a really obvious jump.  It isn't PS1->PS2 anymore.

For me what makes a PS4 purchase seem unnecessary thus far is the trend where games are made for both the current and previous gen at the same time.  Too often a new PS4/XB1 game is also available on the PS3/X360.  I didn't buy a Gamecube to play spiffier versions of N64 games.  I need exclusives to make me move up.  I get that the idea is that the old consoles have a bigger userbase so you want to include them to get a bigger audience but does nothing for selling the console itself.  I guess that's more Sony's and Microsoft's responsibility but if everyone is going to continue to make PS3 versions, I don't need to upgrade, at least not until the improvements to the PS4 version become more obvious.  Go to Gamerankings and look at the top PS4 games and four of the top five are also PS3 games.

[MagicCow64]

But this time it's different! Maybe!


I think the shift in the design of the Xbone and PS4 toward pretty much mimicking the specs of a mid-high range game PC is going tamp down the possibility of unlocking a "wow" factor not apparently possible in early gen games. Like, I kind of doubt there's going to be a Gear of War-style eye-opener. The specs are what they are out of the box, and while they'll surely be juiced and optimized as much as possible, there is less potential for crazy work-arounds and breakthroughs in programming for weird proprietary boxes. (Factor 5, for instance, did some crazy crap with the Gamecube that Nintendo was unwilling to try for their own titles.)


Separately, there are fewer low-hanging fruit. A lot of the new extra juice goes toward higher resolutions and framerates (which still aren't hitting 1080/60FPS for many "next gen" games) and improved anti-aliasing, which don't make a startling difference for most people, myself included.


I think the best chance for something truly impressive happening (outside of super-pretty corridor/cinematic presentation crap that remains less interactive than many PS2-era titles) has to come through design. Using the extra power to design a gameplay concept that wasn't previously possible, even if it doesn't look technically stunning. Dead Rising with moar zombies isn't going to cut it. Maybe pick up the advanced physics baton from Half Life 2, where it's been gathering dust? Work on an advancement in AI, where it's been gathering dust since Perfect Dark? Something interesting with time beyond short-term rewinds? I dunno. But right now all I'm seeing from next gen is superficial visual enhancement and trying to jam online social experiences down the throats of as many genres as possible.

[broodwars]

Well, if you're looking for a game that puts the extra power of the new consoles to work on AI, I would suggest Shadow of Mordor (its selling point IS its AI Nemesis system). The last-gen versions of that game aren't going to have that Nemesis system because they're not powerful enough to run it.

[BranDonk Kong]

Downloaded that Pix the Cat game today, hopefully I can play it after graduation in December. PS+ has given me a pretty substantial game collection. Definitely worth the $30 (or even the $50 if you must pay full price) per year. I wonder if they let you keep the games when PS Plus shuts down eventually.

[Shaymin]

I would advise against deleting them, though the fact that it's the gateway to the least useful feature in gaming (online MP) means that can's getting kicked into the next decade.

[NWR_insanolord]

Minecraft came out on Vita today, and I picked it up. I was really into the PC version for a while, and I've had an urge to get back to it recently but was waiting for this version.