Author Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1 (Read 498094 times)

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1325 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:05:31 AM »

To be fair, if you look at any recent MacBook, they have SD card ports on them. Apple supports industry standards in a lot of ways; they may not put them on their phones, but neither do most Android manufacturers anymore.

Ceric · « **Reply #1326 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:11:54 AM »

Apple has the habit historically of just backing the wrong standard.

SuperDisk
Firewire
etc.

All awesome standards in there own way but never got widely accepted as others.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1327 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:25:01 AM »

Apple also went all-in on USB way before anyone else, before it really made sense to (pre-USB 2.0).

Ceric · « **Reply #1328 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:33:28 AM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on June 04, 2014, 11:25:01 AM

Apple also went all-in on USB way before anyone else, before it really made sense to (pre-USB 2.0).

*Shrug*
When I was in High School you could buy what was known as a "Legacy Free" PC. Pretty much it only had USB ports. Ditched the PS2 ports. That was late 90's. Some a little later went as far as ditching VGA as well, 2000's. Though that was also the time where there PCI Board still chips too.

I'm surprised to find that DVI can only drive 1920x1200 with a single cable.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1329 on:** June 04, 2014, 12:05:01 PM »

Apple's USB jump began with the original iMac, which came out in 1998, replacing their old proprietary ADB ports.

oohhboy · « **Reply #1330 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:39:26 PM »

ADB were like baby USB ports, so USB for Apple was a no Brainer. USB 1.0 was slow, but the universal part of it was a real break through. I hate to think what it would be like to be still using COM, Serial, Parallel ports, slow, huge, tempermental.

VGA is great in that it's hard to **** it up. It's a great fallback if all the fancy digital video ports throw a **** fit (Thanks HDCP!). But DVI has a VGA fall back Apple didn't completely abandon it. DVI is constrained by the physical medium (copper) is based on. You just can't push any more bandwidth over it if you want some useable length.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1331 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:42:58 PM »

The one nice thing about ADB, though, was you could chain it. With USB you need hubs and whatnot to increase how many things you can connect at once. I don't have a Mac new enough to use their new Thunderbolt thing but I like that that brings that back.

oohhboy · « **Reply #1332 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:51:49 PM »

You can sort of chain USB if each device in the chain was it's own hub like Apple keyboards, but devices like that are so rare the idea of chaining them is virtually foreign to USB.

Ceric · « **Reply #1333 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:05:29 PM »

Which leads us to one of the key differences between USB and Firewire. Firewire every port gives you full speed but, your limited to the number of ports. USB you can add a lot of ports to the bus but each one used will lower you speed to any individual one.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #1334 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:07:27 PM »

Up to 127 devices with the all new USB 2.0!

Soren · « **Reply #1335 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:35:34 PM »

Are all PS4's UBS ports 3.0?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1336 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:41:23 PM »

I'm not sure, I haven't plugged anything other than a controller charger into mine. Knowing Sony, though, probably, even though I'm not sure why it'd be necessary. As opposed to Nintendo, who openly advertise USB hard drive support but cheap out on the actual port.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #1337 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:41:49 PM »

Yes, all two of them.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1338 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:43:46 PM »

The Wii U has four, but with my hard drive needing a Y cable and the GameCube adapter taking two of them, it's like it has two.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #1339 on:** June 07, 2014, 05:16:28 AM »

Finally purchased my PS4 (amazon used/open sale for $300) and here's a couple of my initial thoughts.

The manual was a joke, didn't even point out where the eject button was

luckily others had a few comments and a youtube video helping us out. Since I got mine used I wanted to make sure the DVD drive was emptied.

Yeah, there really isn't enough USB ports and I wished they had a few in the back but I bought I cheap USB 4 way Hub so I can leave my external storage and fightstick plugged in.

Not sure why this hasn't been addressed yet but the PS4 controller has a built in speaker (like the WII) which games like Killzone uses but there's no way to disable the damn thing for us Headphone users. Sure you can turn it down but there's no way to hear those "audio" files though normal speakers?

Can't believe there hasn't been a patch for this yet.

So far I'm unimpressed with the touch pad. Not sure if any game is going make good use out of it but right now I see it as an expensive that really isn't needed.

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Ceric · « **Reply #1340 on:** June 07, 2014, 04:51:59 PM »

If you download the E3 Experience on PS4 They try really hard to justify the touchpads existance but fail.

In fact I'm still at the point that the PS3 is the better machine in every way except Graphics. If the battery life wasn't so pathetic on the controller it might have that but the 2 I have can make the Gamepad look good.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #1341 on:** June 07, 2014, 09:23:24 PM »

If they let you disable the light it should improve battery life. Now, to be fair, aside from the Wii, every console is better than the next one in every way except graphics for the first year or so.

Ceric · « **Reply #1342 on:** June 09, 2014, 09:51:49 AM »

I will mostly agree except the PS3 was a more capable media machine from the get go over the PS2. I'm not asking the world but 3D Blu-Ray should have been there Day 1 plus equivalent DVD support.

I honestly think the light is a symptom not a cause. I doubt it takes more power then the red light on the PS3 controller. I think the real culprit is the constant pinging.

Soren · « **Reply #1343 on:** June 09, 2014, 10:05:35 PM »

So, Grim Fandango. A remastered version of a 15+ year old game is the thing that's going to sell me on getting a PS4.

Goddamnit. You win Sony.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1344 on:** June 09, 2014, 10:12:32 PM »

Yeah that Grim Fandango was the first time I have truly wanted a 'next gen' system.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #1345 on:** June 09, 2014, 10:26:16 PM »

I watched the 5 min recap of Microsoft's show...SONY has blown them away completely.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #1346 on:** June 09, 2014, 10:40:42 PM »

GTA V!

Adrock · « **Reply #1347 on:** June 09, 2014, 11:05:08 PM »

The Uncharted 4: A Thief's End teaser is exactly why I don't like hearing about games this early. Voice over and Nathan Drake walking into a jungle. Check out all that nothing that was shown. In any case, I didn't particularly enjoy Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, but I'll probably end up playing this at some point.

Shaymin · « **Reply #1348 on:** June 09, 2014, 11:14:53 PM »

Grim Fandango is PS4/Vita, so if you're just in for that one a Vita is a way cheaper option.

Ceric · « **Reply #1349 on:** June 09, 2014, 11:17:34 PM »

Quote from: Shaymin on June 09, 2014, 11:14:53 PM

Grim Fandango is PS4/Vita, so if you're just in for that one a Vita is a way cheaper option.

Vita TV be cheaper still.

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