Topic: Epic Mickey - Wii Exclusive

[Luigi Dude]

I'm not sure what the power of the Wii has to do with the style of the graphics

The Wii has more then enough power to do that style of graphics.  All they have to do is make the game cel-shaded and they'd be able to easily make the game resemble the original artstyle.

People don't seem to remember that the Gamecube had several cel-shaded games that looked exactly like they're artwork.  Since the Wii is more powerful then the Gamecube, there's absolutely no excuse that they can't make a game that looks similar to the artwork.

[Dirk Temporo]

The game looks fine the way it is. Everybody is crying because the game is still practically in alpha, and doesn't have the vast majority of typical graphical details running on it yet.

[Shaymin]

I just hope this doesn't translate to "PS360 version".

[Peachylala]

I just hope this doesn't translate to "PS360 version".

Methinks the HARDCOREZ wouldn't spend a dime on Epic Mickey, but that's honestly just me.

At least (hopefully) our fanbase will accept the game, since A) it's a platformer made by Warren Spector and B) it messes with Disney's best.

[broodwars]

I just hope this doesn't translate to "PS360 version".

Methinks the HARDCOREZ wouldn't spend a dime on Epic Mickey, but that's honestly just me.

At least (hopefully) our fanbase will accept the game, since A) it's a platformer made by Warren Spector and B) it messes with Disney's best.

Speaking as someone who considers themself a hardcore gamer, I'm very much interested in Epic Mickey.  Of course, I am a bit of a Disney buff, though, and am largely interested in seeing a new spin on old Disney characters and creations.
 
As for other core players perhaps not so interested in Disney, remember that dark and twisted is EXTREEEEEEEEEEME (sorry, best link I could find for the routine)!  I think it would find an audience on the other platforms, and just for the sake of seeing this game's art style (provided it eventually proves similar to the concept art) in HD I hope it does go cross-platform

[Peachylala]

But is it good from a business stand-point though? The anti-Ninty fan wankers will surely bitch, but then again, they always bitch kind of like the core fanbase Ninty has lol. Doesn't automatically mean they will buy the damn game. Disney could very well be putting money into a sinkhole if they attempted an HD version. Look what happened to No More Heroes: Flopping Paradise in Japan.

And Valkaria Chronicles.

Since the Wii is more powerful then the Gamecube, there's absolutely no  excuse that they can't make a game that looks similar to the artwork.

We are dealing with a third party developer here. The excuse will come sooner or later.

Sadly

[broodwars]

But is it good from a business stand-point though? The anti-Ninty fan wankers will surely bitch, but then again, they always bitch kind of like the core fanbase Ninty has lol. Doesn't automatically mean they will buy the damn game. Disney could very well be putting money into a sinkhole if they attempted an HD version. Look what happened to No More Heroes: Flopping Paradise in Japan.

And Valkyria Chronicles.

*Spelling Error Fixed*

Alright, first off don't try to compare an Epic Mickey port with the No More Heroes port, a game that didn't even sell well on the Wii.  And Valkyria Chronicles (which, by the way, isn't a port of anything) didn't sell poorly because of its art style, but because Sega's a moron at marketing anything RPGs.  It didn't help that they released the game right in the midst of an extremely full Fall 2008 schedule, when it could (and did) have sold just fine a few months down the road.

A better point of comparison would be LittleBigPlanet, a "child-friendly" game that sold just fine on the PS3.

[Peachylala]

Which didn't sell well on Wii? Seriously? It is one of Suda51's better selling games, which is saying A LOT.

A better point of comparison would be LittleBigPlanet, a "child-friendly" game that sold just fine on the PS3.

Is "just fine" enough to get back the budget though?

[Adrock]

Which didn't sell well on Wii? Seriously? It is one of Suda51's better selling games, which is saying A LOT.

Using Obi-Wan Kenobi logic....it's true from a certain point of view...

No More Heroes is Suda51's best selling game, but his other games sold roughly 37 copies combined.

[TJ Spyke]

But it has nothing to do with the fact that it was a Wii game, it would have probably sold even worse on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. The fact that it sold well enough to get a sequel is also impressive.

[Adrock]

I kind of wish it didn't. No More Heroes 2 was a waste, save for Margaret Moonlight and Alice Twilight.

[broodwars]

But it has nothing to do with the fact that it was a Wii game, it would have probably sold even worse on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. The fact that it sold well enough to get a sequel is also impressive.

I never said the game sold poorly because it was a Wii game.  Peachy there was trying to use the mediocre-to-poor sales of the HD No More Heroes port in Japan as evidence that Wii ports can't sell well on other consoles, and that HD players can't embrace games with more abstract/colorful visual styles.  I was pointing out that the game didn't sell well on Wii, either.  Suda 51 just lucked out that he managed to get $10 in sales off a game that only cost $8 to make (speaking relatively, of course).  Only the truly insane could expect the game to sell better just because it was on the HD consoles now, which explains why Suda 51 ported it over.

For an Epic Mickey HD port to sell well, the developers would have to demonstrate that the game has been optimized to work on the new platforms.  Move and NATAL support would have to work flawlessly, and the game couldn't have any obvious symptoms of lazy porting.  Gee, that sounds just like the standards that every game on all 3 consoles has to measure up to.
 
Oh, and by the way add the 3 Ratchet & Clank Future games to the list of "colorful" PS3 games that have sold well on the console.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Suda wasn't responsible for the port.  That was MMV's call, a publisher that has now exterminated original IPs from future planning.

[Stratos]

Suda wasn't responsible for the port.  That was MMV's call, a publisher that has now exterminated original IPs from future planning.

You mean they've become like Activision except Japanese and with less financial clout?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126116

[BlackNMild2k1]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126116

- Wada is trying to keep Marvelous dying like CING did

huh?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

deadbeat flops

?dontcha getit

Companies that enjoy sending products out to die.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I thought it was a typo because I didn't think that was what they meant.

[BlackNMild2k1]

E3 2010: http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen16925_e3-2010-premieres-photos.html

[Ymeegod]

No More Heroes sold like 50K on the WII in Japan, but that's when it hit bargin bin statue--meaning even the XBOX version is still selling on par and will hit the 50K mark as well.

Quote:
For the Japanese release, a poorly attended launch event for the game was held on December 6, 2007 at Akihabara's Sofmap Amusement featuring both Suda51 and Yasuhiro Wada signing copies of the games and giving away premiums. After 20 minutes passed without any purchases, a Famitsu reporter had a copy signed while others took photos" 

NMH = sold like poo period though alot of people expected alot more sales on the WII considering the HYPE it held (E3's ect). 

Still I think Disney Epic Mickey will sell (I think it will hit 500K plus this year alone). 
 

[TJ Spyke]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126116

- Wada is trying to keep Marvelous dying like CING did

huh?

Cing wet bankrupt because they were making new games that undersold, so Marvelous Entertainment will stick to existing IP's since they tend to sell better and cost less to make.

[that Baby guy]

We got some great pictures of the Epic Mickey banners, there's more than just those four.  I plan to do a write-up, but to summarize it, there's a lot of DisneyLand/DisneyWorld references everywhere.

[BlackNMild2k1]

We got some great pictures of the Epic Mickey banners, there's more than just those four.  I plan to do a write-up, but to summarize it, there's a lot of DisneyLand/DisneyWorld references everywhere.

well there are 4 more Epic Mickey pics in that pic making a total of 8(4 in front, and 4 off to the far right), but I know what you meant

[that Baby guy]

There's actually twelve, and we got four of them.  There's four to the left and four to the right, all like the ones we've got in our Epic Mickey photo gallery.  An evaluation of them is about to go live on our site, the link will be here.

[SilverGrey]

I'm intrigued by the Partners statue with Mickey instead of Oswald.  I've seen that statue more times then I can probably count, and it's just so odd to see it without Mickey!!!

Also, looking at all the images, I would venture a guess that this is ALL Disneyland, and not Disney World.  It's tough to see from the small images, but most of the items they're seeming to depict are from Disneyland.  For example, the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland is very different than the one in Disney World, theme wise.  The picture in the Epic Mickey banner is Disneyland's mansion.