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Re: New Super Mario Bros. Wii
« Reply #575 on: October 27, 2009, 03:25:43 PM »
Thinking of Mouser makes me remember the Super Mario Brothers Super Show. Wasn't there a snake boss as well or was that just for the cartoon. I have not played SMB2 USA in over a decade (close to two, in fact, at this point).
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« Reply #576 on: October 27, 2009, 03:34:35 PM »
There was:

Mouser, a three-headed snake, a giant crab, a giant flame, Mouser again, then Wart. (GBA verison had that Birdo-bot)

I have to check TMK's Mariopedia for the names since they escape me at the moment.
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« Reply #577 on: October 27, 2009, 06:55:03 PM »
Mouser, a three-headed snake, a giant crab, a giant flame, Mouser again, then Wart. (GBA verison had that Birdo-bot)
There were also two of Colbrat (the three-headed snake). Also, in the original Japanese version, World 5 had Mouser instead of ClawGlip, the crab boss. And yes, "ClawGlip" was supposed to be "ClawGrip".

Birdo,
How's that sound for guesses?
Sounds... depressing. I think having Birdo as a boss would now seem weird, and would probably be even worse than not having her at all. Since she seems to have some sort of connection with Yoshi then it would be strange to fight her with a Yoshi.

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« Reply #578 on: October 27, 2009, 07:22:21 PM »
There were also two of Colbrat (the three-headed snake).
That was Triclyde. Colbrat was the snake that popped out from vases and spat bullets.

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« Reply #579 on: October 27, 2009, 07:34:48 PM »
Ha ha, you're right. I get the two mixed up for some reason.

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« Reply #580 on: October 27, 2009, 11:16:05 PM »
Birdo,
How's that sound for guesses?
Sounds... depressing. I think having Birdo as a boss would now seem weird, and would probably be even worse than not having her at all. Since she seems to have some sort of connection with Yoshi then it would be strange to fight her with a Yoshi.

But that could make the story more 'epic'. Yoshi and Birdo are torn as they find themselves on opposite sides of a boiling conflict. Maybe Birdo is being forced to serve Bowser because he is holding someone hostage Birdo holds dear? Or maybe Bowser stole her special ring and the ring turns out to have sentimental meaning for Birdo? The possibilities are endless.
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« Reply #581 on: October 27, 2009, 11:26:43 PM »
The only people who would want that kind of 'epic' storytelling are the hard-assed "hard core" fans. Except hard core whining is akin to that of a new born baby crying because he shat his diaper.

Actual demand for epic Mario storytelling is 0.000001%. And it should stay that way.
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« Reply #582 on: October 27, 2009, 11:35:02 PM »
I was more making a joke than anything. Partly a nod to the conversation about 'epic-ness' and it's overuse in the Epic Mickey thread, and also it was something I thought Mop it up and others might get a kick reading.
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« Reply #583 on: October 28, 2009, 12:15:47 AM »
But that could make the story more 'epic'. Yoshi and Birdo are torn as they find themselves on opposite sides of a boiling conflict. Maybe Birdo is being forced to serve Bowser because he is holding someone hostage Birdo holds dear? Or maybe Bowser stole her special ring and the ring turns out to have sentimental meaning for Birdo? The possibilities are endless.
That would be epically sad! It's bad enough Birdo is once again absent from Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, I can't take any more heartbreak!

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« Reply #584 on: October 28, 2009, 01:34:38 AM »
But that's not it! Yoshi would refuse to obey Mario and they would have a falling out. Then New Yoshi's Island Wii would chronicle Yoshi's attempt to regain the ring so that Birdo doesn't have to obey Bowser anymore. Is that better?
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« Reply #585 on: October 28, 2009, 02:04:21 AM »
Then throw it into the volcano of which it was forged!

Birdo's game could consist of creating movie parodies, where Birdo is the star of several movies, with Mario characters filling in the cast.  That wouldn't be a bad idea.  I don't know how it would play, but that would be a good storyline for Birdo.  I think I came up with an idea like this before...

As far as Mario platformers go, though, words get in the way.  I want to jump, run, and throw fireballs, with all message and info boxes being available, but unnecessary.

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« Reply #586 on: October 28, 2009, 02:19:33 AM »
Then throw it into the volcano of which it was forged!

Birdo's game could consist of creating movie parodies, where Birdo is the star of several movies, with Mario characters filling in the cast.  That wouldn't be a bad idea.  I don't know how it would play, but that would be a good storyline for Birdo.  I think I came up with an idea like this before...

As far as Mario platformers go, though, words get in the way.  I want to jump, run, and throw fireballs, with all message and info boxes being available, but unnecessary.

You did come up with something like that before. I don't remember where, though.

I liked the boxes in Super Mario World because you could choose to ignore them. I would like that to be retained in this game.
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« Reply #587 on: October 28, 2009, 01:23:12 PM »
Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story had those message boxes littered in different places. Story I think had more of them since it appealed to the younger crowd.

It didn't help that sometimes the messages rhymed and made me feel stupid just reading them.
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« Reply #588 on: October 28, 2009, 02:09:30 PM »
Oh I WISH Super Paper Mario had boxes.
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« Reply #589 on: October 28, 2009, 06:00:15 PM »
But that's not it! Yoshi would refuse to obey Mario and they would have a falling out. Then New Yoshi's Island Wii would chronicle Yoshi's attempt to regain the ring so that Birdo doesn't have to obey Bowser anymore. Is that better?
If it resulted in a spin-off starring Yoshi and Birdo then I'd be all for it (see author icon). But the fact that they've never put Waluigi in a Wario game leads me to believe that Birdo is never going to appear in a Yoshi game.

Birdo's game could consist of creating movie parodies, where Birdo is the star of several movies, with Mario characters filling in the cast.  That wouldn't be a bad idea.  I don't know how it would play, but that would be a good storyline for Birdo.  I think I came up with an idea like this before...
You did, though I think you said game parodies. I'm still not sure why you think Birdo is a good starring role for a game parody but I think it would likely end up being too gimmicky and forced. The only game I can think of which successfully parodies various movies is Conker's Bad Fur Day on the Nintendo 64, although it also does it poorly sometimes.

As far as Mario platformers go, though, words get in the way.  I want to jump, run, and throw fireballs, with all message and info boxes being available, but unnecessary.
That'd be one reason why Super Paper Mario is a pretty bland game.

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« Reply #590 on: October 28, 2009, 09:03:09 PM »
SPM suffered from a genre switch, and maybe a newbie director. It's quite a pity the only thing I enjoyed in that game was the Peach dating sim and making Peach an absolute bitch towards Francis.

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The only game I can think of which successfully parodies various movies is Conker's Bad Fur Day on the Nintendo 64, although it also does it poorly sometimes.
It was mostly shock factor and padding. The game is a pretty N64 game with little substance and all style.
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« Reply #591 on: October 30, 2009, 05:35:07 PM »
I added this game (and thread) to the NWR calendar.  I'm getting good at this mod stuff!  ;D
Why must all things be so bright? Why can things not appear only in hues of brown! I am so serious about this! Dull colors are the future! The next generation! I will never accept a world with such bright colors! It is far too childish! I will rage against your cheery palette with my last breath!

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« Reply #592 on: October 30, 2009, 05:41:31 PM »
What's a calendar?
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« Reply #593 on: October 30, 2009, 05:44:57 PM »
It's the thing the Mayans used to determine we're all going to die like John Cusack prophesied.
Why must all things be so bright? Why can things not appear only in hues of brown! I am so serious about this! Dull colors are the future! The next generation! I will never accept a world with such bright colors! It is far too childish! I will rage against your cheery palette with my last breath!

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« Reply #594 on: October 30, 2009, 05:52:26 PM »
would that be the calender that also has forum birthdays??

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« Reply #595 on: October 30, 2009, 05:53:06 PM »
Yeah, same one.  Turns out it can be used for all sorts of stuff!
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« Reply #596 on: October 30, 2009, 06:08:12 PM »
I'm going to get a white case to replace it with.
I just realized that this isn't going to work. The red spine and Wii logo are a part of the paper insert!

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« Reply #597 on: October 30, 2009, 06:10:46 PM »
You could always doctor up a scanned image of the cover and get it printed on really nice paper at Kinkos or something.

My Dad has a photo quality printer. I'll see if he'll let me use it to make a modified cover for you if you'd like. I have experience with Photoshop, but if someone else can find/make the alternate cover I would be game for doing that for you.
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« Reply #598 on: October 30, 2009, 06:15:55 PM »
No thank you, it isn't worth the effort. I'm even less interested in fake inserts and cases than miscoloured official ones.

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« Reply #599 on: October 30, 2009, 07:20:03 PM »
I'm sure someone on The Cover Project will do the work for you within a day or two after the game releases.
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