Topic: New Super Mario Bros. Wii

[TJ Spyke]

Agreed Ian. There are some games that I never finished because I couldn't get past a certain part (even using guides). This is  a great feature. People who are complaining about it should STFU because it's an optional feature, no one is forcing people to use it.

[that Baby guy]

On the subject of the game, I hope that there'll be more than Mario, Luigi, Blue Toad, and Yellow Toad available to play as.  The way I see it, you offer alternative characters to players who "win" each stage, to keep the competitive field alive.  That's what I'd hope, but it wouldn't be difficult to offer a truly robust cast of characters, all having to be earned aside from the default four.  There's several characters that can fit in that size frame.  I suppose the tricky part is to only allow characters that could ride a Yoshi, which would mean Yoshi likely couldn't be a stand-alone character.

Anyways, the Japanese version of SMB 2, our "The Lost Levels," does have alternative traction and jumping height for Luigi.  Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World re-implemented these differences, and Luigi also ran slower than Mario did in this game.  We've also seen the difference on Wii games, as well.  There might have been a card for Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 that allowed you to toggle the Luigi differences on and off, you know, via the e-reader.

[Stratos]

I wouldn't mind extra characters. Wolly and Yvan are nice Toads and all, but I'd like to play as other characters too.

Maybe the winner gets to be Mario next round?

What would be good unlockable characters? Peach makes sense, but who else?

[EasyCure]

Agreed Ian. There are some games that I never finished because I couldn't get past a certain part (even using guides). This is  a great feature. People who are complaining about it should STFU because it's an optional feature, no one is forcing people to use it.

lol has anyone complained yet?

[Stratos]

There are at least two people here that have anti-"Legend of OO, Digest mode" notes in their sigs. Stevey is one of them I believe.

[EasyCure]

There are at least two people here that have anti-"Legend of OO, Digest mode" notes in their sigs. Stevey is one of them I believe.

Stevey is one of those troll-ish posters who you can't take seriously though, so he doesn't count.

[TJ Spyke]

Check out NeoGAF for people who started complaining the moment the patent was discovered (although that may not be a good example as users at NeoGAF will bitch about anything and everything).

[that Baby guy]

I wouldn't mind extra characters. Wolly and Yvan are nice Toads and all, but I'd like to play as other characters too.

Maybe the winner gets to be Mario next round?

What would be good unlockable characters? Peach makes sense, but who else?

Well, Koopas, Rosalina, Daisy, Waluigi was mentioned, Wario, perhaps Birdo and Yoshi.  Potentially characters could have their own innate abilities and/or disabilities, for instance, a Yoshi character would play like riding a Yoshi 100% of the time, at the expense of power-ups.  The Bros. and Toads would be the neutral standard characters, if that were to happen.  You could also include Kamek, perhas this is how Bowser Jr. finds a spot in the game.  Donkey Kong and Diddy might fit in as well.  The main issue is character size.  If some characters do play differently, then that's a non-issue.  Of course, this is all just possibilities, but hey, Yoshi's Island DS did it, relatively.

[Luigi Dude]

Well according to some of the people who have said they played this game at E3, the levels that were in the demo seemed more challenging then the levels that were in NSMB DS.  So it looks like the demo play is already having a good effect.  Plus Miyamoto did say they were going to make Mario Galaxy 2 harder then the original, which leads me to believe that's thanks to this demo play as well.

So yeah, if this trend continues this demo play could end up having great results for all future Nintendo games.  They can make games more challanging for veteran gamers again, and not have to worry about inexperienced gamers getting stuck.  Plus since this demo play shows people what to do, it's a great way to make people better at games.

I mean, when growing up, I know alot of us watched either a friend or relative beat a game that you were unable to beat ourselves.  It was usually from watching them play, that it helped me eventually beat these games as well.  This demo play to me, is no different then watching someone beat something you can't and then learning from it.

[toadette_freak]

If any body can get my friend code for Animal Crossing it is
Name: Noah
town: Hyrul
Fc: 2407-2128-2464

[BeautifulShy]

Wrong topic toadette freak.

[BeautifulShy]

Ok so what types of power ups would you like to return? Got any ideas of your own power up?

[toadette_freak]

so will u except my friend code offer

[BeautifulShy]

so will u except my friend code offer

PM me about it. Stop talking about it in this thread.

[Mop it up]

Well, Koopas, Rosalina, Daisy, Waluigi was mentioned, Wario, perhaps Birdo and Yoshi. 

Yoshi and Birdo have similar abilities so they could add Birdo as an alternative to riding Yoshi.

Whatever ends up in the final version I just hope that the two Toads are placeholders for now. There are plenty of interesting characters they could use so there's no reason to force a copy of a character in order to have 4 players.

Ok so what types of power ups would you like to return?

Kuribo's Shoe needs to make a comeback. It was featured in only one stage of SMB3 so it isn't like it has been overused or anything...

[Stratos]

Would Birdo put up with being rode like that?

[Mop it up]

I don't see why not. Though it may not be comfortable for the rider since Birdo doesn't have a shell like Yoshi.

[that Baby guy]

Isn't actually a saddle, quite like how Yoshi's are "born" with shoes?

[Mop it up]

I think it was originally. But it isn't strapped on to him so I think it is a shell.

[Chozo Ghost]

Ok so what types of power ups would you like to return? Got any ideas of your own power up?

I want to see more redundant novelty power suits like the ones we saw in SMB3 like the boot thing and the one where mario turns into a statue. If I'm not mistaken, these things only appear in like 1 level and are pretty much completely useless except as a conversation piece while playing the game with friends.

[BeautifulShy]

The Kurubo's shoe shows up in 1 level while the Tanooki Suit can be found in lots of places.

[Chozo Ghost]

I think it was originally. But it isn't strapped on to him so I think it is a shell.

In Super Mario World when he first appeared I'm almost certain that was a saddle. It is possible Nintendo altered things around since then and decided it is something that is fused to his body (aka: shell).

[EasyCure]

Check out NeoGAF for people who started complaining the moment the patent was discovered (although that may not be a good example as users at NeoGAF will bitch about anything and everything).

That's why i LOL'd We've had the discussion here and aside from a few people, who might of just been joking around, the news was well recieved here.

Well according to some of the people who have said they played this game at E3, the levels that were in the demo seemed more challenging then the levels that were in NSMB DS.  So it looks like the demo play is already having a good effect.  Plus Miyamoto did say they were going to make Mario Galaxy 2 harder then the original, which leads me to believe that's thanks to this demo play as well.

So yeah, if this trend continues this demo play could end up having great results for all future Nintendo games.  They can make games more challanging for veteran gamers again, and not have to worry about inexperienced gamers getting stuck.  Plus since this demo play shows people what to do, it's a great way to make people better at games.

I mean, when growing up, I know alot of us watched either a friend or relative beat a game that you were unable to beat ourselves.  It was usually from watching them play, that it helped me eventually beat these games as well.  This demo play to me, is no different then watching someone beat something you can't and then learning from it.

Exactly. I wasn't aware that some previewers thought the game was more difficult than the original NSMB, which is why i had my initial reaction to "Demo Play's" debut with this title, since i felt it wouldn't have the difficulty to justify including it. Perhaps this really is the case and perhaps thats why Shiggy was seen dying on the first level!

[Mop it up]

I want to see more redundant novelty power suits like the ones we saw in SMB3 like the boot thing and the one where mario turns into a statue. If I'm not mistaken, these things only appear in like 1 level and are pretty much completely useless except as a conversation piece while playing the game with friends.

I couldn't agree with this more. The Tanooki Suit and the Hammer Brother suit need to make a comeback, there aren't that many of them in the game and they're never put to good use. These powerups are good ideas but the levels need to be designed around them, either by making certain secret areas inaccessible without them or having certain parts be easier with them. They have unexplored potential.

Exactly. I wasn't aware that some previewers thought the game was more difficult than the original NSMB, which is why i had my initial reaction to "Demo Play's" debut with this title, since i felt it wouldn't have the difficulty to justify including it.

What exactly does the demo mode do though? In a game like Super Mario Brothers you almost always know what you need to do, it is actually doing it which can sometimes be difficult.

If this game is more difficult than the first New Super Mario Brothers then I might actually have to use such a feature!

[BeautifulShy]

Mop_it_up look up Legend of OO patent on google. There is a topic about it. Flames of Chaos started it.