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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 12:08:57 PM »
I understand the argument but I don't think Red Steel 2 is a good example case.  Red Steel was junk.  Red Steel 2 will likely be junk.  The reason they aren't having blood in is to ensure a 'T' rating because they feel that will attract a wider audience.  In a different scenario I might see that as compromising the game.  But this game has no real artistic integrity to compromise.  Red Steel 1 was just product put out around the Wii launch to get sales from early adopters.  It was not a good game but considering Ubisoft's reputation, particularly with the Wii, it was likely never meant to be.  It just had to be good enough to release as a product and look interesting enough in screenshots to "con" you into buying it.  And Red Steel 2 will be the same thing.

To me this is like criticizing Miley Cyrus' latest album for not having a raw enough guitar sound.

You listened to that album?
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 12:51:52 PM »
Red Steak 2 actually looks unrealistic enough to do without blood.  Flashy sword streaks may be sufficient.

Which means "Red Steel" is the worst franchise title they could've picked.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 01:09:23 PM »
Bioshock is the spiritual sequel to Biohazard. bad names are an industry staple.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 01:11:43 PM »
Red Steak 2 actually looks unrealistic enough to do without blood.  Flashy sword streaks may be sufficient.

Which means "Red Steel" is the worst franchise title they could've picked.

So you actually prefer your Red Steak well done?
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 01:12:00 PM »
Bioshock is the spiritual sequel to Biohazard. bad names are an industry staple.

You are so right.

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2009, 01:15:43 PM »
Red Steak 2 actually looks unrealistic enough to do without blood.  Flashy sword streaks may be sufficient.

Which means "Red Steel" is the worst franchise title they could've picked.

So you actually prefer your Red Steak well done?

I prefer they manage to cut it from the cow before serving in the first place.  Otherwise you get an agonizing open-carcass mess like the first game.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2009, 01:17:05 PM »
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to work "I drink your milkshake!" into this debate.

I think the graphical style they've gone with wouldn't look right with just enough blood to keep it rated T.  Blood effects that look natural are hard enough to pull off.  Merging natural and stylized is even harder, which is why most highly stylized games go with the high pressure fountains.

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2009, 01:38:52 PM »
I think they could get away with red lines.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2009, 02:03:54 PM »
Maybe the actual sword could be red.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2009, 02:09:12 PM »
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2009, 03:44:13 PM »
Why do we care? I thought we were a crowd of people who cared more about gameplay than graphics. Smash Brothers doesn't have blood and IGN's 'Trick' trailer shows how ridiculous blood would be in some games. Is the game fun? Does it play well? Blood is merely an unnecessary garnishment.

Shouldn't we be more upset by the possibility of not having any multiplayer in the game?
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2009, 05:23:50 PM »
To me this is like criticizing Miley Cyrus' latest album for not having a raw enough guitar sound.

You listened to that album?

That doesn't stop him from complaining about a myriad of video games.  Why should it stop him from complaining about music?
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2009, 09:24:42 PM »
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That'll just get them fined and the game pulled off the shelves.

That happened in 2005 with a different game for a different reason . ;)

What I was talking about was the old MK1 Genesis vs SNES version. The Genesis version didn't have blood in it by default, but you can input a code to enable it. Don't remember that one being told to be toned down or face de-shelving...

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Also, Soul Calibur. But it had jugs. The combination of blood and jugs would be too much...

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2009, 09:43:51 PM »
I'm pretty sure Perfect Dark let you turn blood on or off with a menu option.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2009, 10:51:24 PM »
I'm pretty sure Perfect Dark let you turn blood on or off with a menu option.
It didn't let you turn it "off" per se, but if you used the "Paintball" option, the blood would be multi-coloured.

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2009, 01:50:29 AM »
Bioshock is the spiritual sequel to Biohazard. bad names are an industry staple.

That's sarcasm, right?

What I was talking about was the old MK1 Genesis vs SNES version. The Genesis version didn't have blood in it by default, but you can input a code to enable it. Don't remember that one being told to be toned down or face de-shelving...

Didn't MK predate the ESRB? The ESRB requires that you show them the worst parts, including the hidden stuff. Either you show them the worst part, i.e. the game with the blood code entered and get the rating for the full violence or you run afoul of the ESRB testing rules and have to pay the contractually agreed penalty (AFAIK the contract also requires you to recall all copies on shelves that are marked incorrectly).

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What I was talking about was the old MK1 Genesis vs SNES version. The Genesis version didn't have blood in it by default, but you can input a code to enable it. Don't remember that one being told to be toned down or face de-shelving...

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that was before there were video game ratings.  that was when sega and nintendo policed themselves.  and they did a fine job of it.

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2009, 11:06:17 PM »
this is awful news!!!!!!!


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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2009, 01:45:42 AM »
I'm certain that there would be certain situations in which I would be miffed that a game didn't contain blood in it. Red Steel 2... however... I can't bring myself to care whether or not it's got blood in it. I anticipate playing it and not caring about the presence of blood until a whole host of other concerns are met.

Heck, I'm a guy who's played everything from Duke Nukem 3D to Yoshi's Story to Conker's Bad Fur Day to Ener-G Dance Squad to The Godfather. There won't be blood? Has that ever stopped me before?
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2009, 12:55:13 PM »
Apparently not, because if there won't be blood, there won't be fun.

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2009, 06:33:23 PM »
And the difference between the two types of blood is...?

According to the ESRB content system, Animated Blood is "Discolored and/or unrealistic depictions of blood". I guess if Ubisoft made the blood green colored (like Vulcans), then they get get the Animated Blood descriptor rather than the Blood descriptor.
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2009, 07:23:28 PM »
So, should we label this a blog or a blag? :P
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2009, 01:31:19 AM »
Does Kill Bill count as animated blood?

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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2009, 11:13:55 AM »
Generally I prefer my games to not have blood and/or gore.  Not that I'm distrubed by it, just prefer it not too.  I really like Left 4 Dead, but it doesn't really have buckets of blood or huge amounts of gore.   I personally don't really get any extra statifaction from blowing chunks of gobby meat off my enemies. 
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Re: There Won't Be Blood
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2009, 01:37:23 PM »
Speak for yourself. Eternal Darkness was awesome in so many ways, but one of my favorites was taking out an enemy block by block.
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