Topic: The Wii in 2008 or... "THE TERRIBLE TWOS!!!"

[KDR_11k]

As I said on WWW, I don't ever expect them to make any major entries in their major franchises on WiiWare. MM9 was a model that only worked for this specific franchise (hasn't been good since the NES era, tried to "de-canonize" the bad ones). A Nintendo game with a new entry, even if it was designed for a retro styling would probably mimic at least the SNES era since they saw marked improvements in their SNES versions (noone would want a NES-style Metroid game, Zelda may be debatable due to the different style but I don't think people would want it with NES graphics either) and from there it's a tiny step to the DS. Big name Nintendo games can easily afford to go retail (or would anyone say that a new 2d Metroid wouldn't sell for more than 10$?) and thus they will. Smaller games like puzzles and such can go on the WiiWare service because small games fit better with a cheap price. Full-sized main entries into a series? No way.

Was the FFCC content really weekly? I recall two release batches but that was it (maybe they were staggered more in Japan?)

As for B+'s next game, they released Niki: Rock 'n Ball in Europe, I think it's still not out in the US. IMO it's a bad game with bad controls and tedious mechanics but it got an 8/10 on WWW so maybe others can get more out of it.

For small indie shops, did you postpone 2DBoy to the next issue?

[NWR_pap64]

As I said on WWW, I don't ever expect them to make any major entries in their major franchises on WiiWare. MM9 was a model that only worked for this specific franchise (hasn't been good since the NES era, tried to "de-canonize" the bad ones). A Nintendo game with a new entry, even if it was designed for a retro styling would probably mimic at least the SNES era since they saw marked improvements in their SNES versions (noone would want a NES-style Metroid game, Zelda may be debatable due to the different style but I don't think people would want it with NES graphics either) and from there it's a tiny step to the DS. Big name Nintendo games can easily afford to go retail (or would anyone say that a new 2d Metroid wouldn't sell for more than 10$?) and thus they will. Smaller games like puzzles and such can go on the WiiWare service because small games fit better with a cheap price. Full-sized main entries into a series? No way.

Was the FFCC content really weekly? I recall two release batches but that was it (maybe they were staggered more in Japan?)

As for B+'s next game, they released Niki: Rock 'n Ball in Europe, I think it's still not out in the US. IMO it's a bad game with bad controls and tedious mechanics but it got an 8/10 on WWW so maybe others can get more out of it.

For small indie shops, did you postpone 2DBoy to the next issue?

Regarding 2D Boy, yes. I will mention World of Goo as not only the most important WiiWare title  yet but one of the best releases of the year.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Nice work pap64--though I don't agree with all of it.

The first half of 08 the WII was off to a great start but in the 3rd and 4th quarter it just fell FLAT.   

World of Goo (WIIware game) is the only one that stands out.  A few good games like CoD World of War, De-blob, and GH World Tour were out but alot of games were disappointing to say the least. 

These drougts is what killed them in the past and hopefully the flow will be better in 09--here's looking at you FFCC and Modworld.  What I gripe most is Nintendo has a HUGE warchest that they never seem to open--there's alot of developers up for grabs that produce great games.  Brutal Legends comes screaming to mind.   

No mention of Wario? Sad to see people constantly overlooking it. Not to mention AC:CF which people are STILL enjoying.

I think we need to differentiate between OUR disappointments and overall. Wii Music and AC did VERY well and semmed to have broad appeal.

[Ymeegod]

Haven't gotten around to Wario Land yet.  I still have the new Kriby on the DS to finish but I might give it a go.