Author Topic: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP (Read 15721 times)

Pikkcuber · « **on:** April 08, 2003, 05:18:43 PM »

What do you guys think about this topic. here are my feelings
1.good games are slated to come out for the N-gage the best will proably be a sonic game, but GBA has a library of games, which is full of sonic.
2. N-Gage doubles as a phone, I think just about anybody who wants a cell phone proably already has one, and i doubt it is very high quality.
3. I could be wrong but the N-Gage is around 500$ compared to the sleek SP's 100$ price tag, and its brother the regular GBA'S 70$.
4. Sony and Sega have already tried to beat nintendo in the handheld war and they failed, and they are respected names in the gaming industry.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2003, 05:51:29 PM »

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rpglover · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2003, 06:36:54 PM »

well i have my doubts on the n-gage only because of the price and lack of games right now
i own gba sp and it is the greatest handheld ever- great games, good price, and is backwords compatable
i think the n-gage will be one of those things only hardcore people may go into
i think the problem that comes in is the fact the n-gage will be a cell phone with gaming as an afterthought
the games look good, but the interface looks a little cluncky
for games i would stick with the gba or sp
if you are really hardcore and want to show off- get an sp and an n-gage
i dont think i will get one only because of the lack of games and the hefty price tag

The Doc · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2003, 11:38:57 AM »

I just bought a GBA SP the other day and I am very excited about my purchase. Now to comment on the possible GBA SP vs. N-Gage war; Nokia may try to pull some market share away from the Game Boy Advance SP, however I just do not see it happening. The N-Gage will debut with a heavy price tag and a undersized software library; where as the Game Boy Advance SP already has a bevy of software titles to choose from and comes with an attractive $100 dollar price tag. In addition, Nokia is well behind Nintendo in this race and it has already been stated that it would take Nokia well over a year to catch up to the GBA SP. I do not know about you fellow Nintendo fans, but I would not want a cell phone that also has the ability to play games; cell phones are used for conversing with others and should be left as is. In the end, I believe the choice is an easy one and that choice is the Game Boy Advance SP; unless you want to try something new and do not mind shelling out a lot of money.

~The Doc~

joshnickerson · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2003, 04:48:06 PM »

The GBA SP, no contest. When I read that you have to unscrew the back cover, then the battery just to swap out games, I just laughed.
If only Nintendo could have this kind of stranglehold in the console market...

dmbfan755 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2003, 10:45:26 AM »

I think this N-gage is sweet. Official site- N-gage.com When it comes out, I'm definately going to get one. I mean something that is a gaming machine, an mp3 player, and so on? C'mon I mean my cell phone right now plays snake, and ummm... oh yeah that memory thing. But playing on a handheld that has better graphics then GBA sounds cool. I also like the fact that you can call people on it. It's definately not as sleek as the SP, but it might have a chance. Thay are supposed to sell for 300-400 euro, or about 340-450$. I think that a 100$ SP is better than a 450$ phone, but it might have an impact on the handhelp monopoly, just like the PSP will.

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2003, 01:18:35 PM »

While i'm a big fan of convergence and portable technology, i'm not excited about the N-Gage (NG here on). The current lineup of games isn't compelling, which kills the gaming element of the device. MP3 playback is nifty, but you have to remove any other cards plugged in and current MMCs (multi-media cards) top out at 128MB -- too small for my tastes. Also, GSM coverage is still spotty in the US; non-existant where i live, so i couldn't even use it as a phone. I like the concept, but the execution, especially for Nokia, seems really sloppy.

Frankly, i love Snake (the first one); when i had a Nokia i'd play it when i was out. If i want something deeper than that, i'll bring my SP. The majority of the time, i'll choose a device with a single use and high quality output over one with multiple uses but lesser quality. The GBA only plays games, but it plays them well.

Dratatoo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2003, 03:11:21 PM »

The last panel sums it up pretty much.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-05-19&res=l

PIAC · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2003, 04:04:16 PM »

i doubt it will actually have better graphics than the GBA, given the screen is alot smaller and cant do as many colours (if my memory serves me correctly)

on the subject of phones come gameing machines, i saw an add for a sony errikson phone of some description that had Tony Hawk 4, anyone know about this?

Cube323 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2003, 10:36:35 PM »

The Nokia N-gage is possibly the worst handheld gaming device ever created. I am totally serious. I expect this thing to fail is a big way. At E3, I tried every game they had and all I can say is this, I couldn't get away from their booth fast enough. Just thinking about that ultra crappy "tomb raider" game on that sh*tty, postage stamp sized screen, make me ill.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2003, 08:07:17 PM »

Cell Phones are good for the novelty games such as snake and memory, and other games that don't need the screen refreshed for back ground changes. The Nokia N-gage is a step to move away from this but with expectation on a cell phone's size and form gets in the way of making any cell phone product a proper handheld gaming device.

SatansNemesis · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2003, 08:52:43 PM »

A good test on its success would be to go around to your local gamestop/eb or game specialty store and find out if they will carry it or not. cause if the specialty stores are hesitant, it means instant death. Look at how leniant they are about GC stuff, doubt they would give the NG much thought, maybe one 5x5 shelf with MAYBE a demo kiosk.

Also, don't make them think you are interested in it or they may consider stocking some/more of it. And I would probably wait until the launch is a bit closer before asking because some places might not even know much yet on their stance.

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 13, 2003, 09:09:45 AM »

Nokia makes crappy cell-phones and its lack of games and sense is getting to me.

Besides, isnt there going to be an MP3 player for the GBA? I heard a bunch of stuff from E3 that you can buy software like the MP3 player, movie player, even cartridges that has a whole episode of Pokemon on a cheap $15-20 cartridge.

Really the N-Gage is just for noone and I think somebody very strange will get this...thing.

If you are getting one, power to you, just dont expect a good refund from Game Stop...

Big_Pimp · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2003, 04:57:10 PM »

The N-Gage will no doubt fail miserably. $300? no thanks, cell phone?, getting one, screen size?, what where they thinking? I think the PSP will be the bigger threat.

Neo X · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2003, 02:18:30 PM »

Pikkcuber, you might want to check your history again you idiot. or you could save time and read the new articles on the PSP that say "This is Sony's FIRST forray into the handheld market." PIAC. Yes, the N-gage will have a hell of alot better graphics than the SP!!! And it will certainly have more colors than the SP. Cube323, your too ignorant, for all we know, the n-gage games could be a heck of alot better than we think, and NO THE SCREEN IS ALOT BIGGER THAN A POSTAGE STAMP!!!!!! In fact, from comparison pics I've seen, the N-gage screen is not that much smaller than the SP's. We can not predict the future. Cube, there have been worse, and betters that much is true. Am i biased to the N-gage. NO. I'm just protecting the truth. Any one hear of the turbo express? It was a handheld system made by NEC. It was a genious idea, have a portable game system that plays your home console games. What this means is one could play his/her turbo graphix 16. Guess what, it got it's butt kicked. Later Sega tried the same thing w/ the genesis (this hand-held was called the Nomad) Just like these geniuse ideas, the N-gage idea may get destroyed. this is because of the way Sega and NEC supported and marketed these systems. Now if Nintendo were to release a portable N64 that didn't need ports to play N64 games. N64 owners would more than likely be all over it. Why? Because nintendo can get there product out into the world better than NEC or SEGA. Now to get to questions PIAC, there is a version Proskater for cells, only it looks like it's one the SNES. Same thing w/ the splintercell cell version. Bartman, there is an MP3 player for GBA. By movie player you may be thinking about the TV reciever for the GBA. Aside from picking up broadcast on your GBA, you can hook up a Cube, DVD, VCR ect.

PIAC · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2003, 12:17:52 AM »

can i introduce you to a little thing called paragraphs?

yes the N-Gage could be popular, but the method for changing games puts me right off, no-one wants to fiddle around taking things open and out just to switch games, thats an unecesarry hassle, especially if your on the bus/train etc where the movment could cause such an undertacking to be annoying.

by the time it is out in australia i should be up for a new mobile phone, and i would have given it a serious look at if 1) its a decent phone 2) it can hold a respectable amount of mp3s (i dont expect it to be iPodesque in storage) 3) decent games are readily available for it.

rpglover · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2003, 04:18:47 AM »

all i know of this n-gage thing is what i have read about it from ign and gamespot- and i dont think the people at gamespot like it that much- they said it was too much of a hassle to reload the games (you have to take the back off, remove the battery, insert the cartrage, place the battery and back of the system on again, turn it on, then scroll down a menu to get to the play games section) sure that might not sound that bad but then how could you have fun with it? to me it would just take too long to put the games in (as PIAC has stated before) also- i think the battery life for the n-gage is very weak- 4 hours for games- thats pretty low especially if you consider the sp's 10 hour life with the light on, 18 without it- but the biggest things are the games and they just dont suit me very well- basically sonic n is a port of sonic advance, super monkey ball is a port from the gba version (with some added minigames), tony hawk seems to be the best show of what the n-gage can do, but if you have seen the screen of the n-gage you know how small it is- but the 300 dollar price for the contraption is enough to keep me away- the gba launched at 100 bucks and i spent 150 on the gba, 2 games, and a light thing for it (some deal at eb)- thats a good deal- for the n-gage with 2 games it would come out to be around 360-380 dollars- thats just too much- why spend it on an n-gage when you could get any one of the consoles of this generation and many games for it for that price??

NIN10DO · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2003, 09:35:41 AM »

N-Gage will fail.

It's just too expensive, who would buy it? this is a GAME cell phone, made to sell for most likely kids, and what parents will buy their kids a $300 phone? maybe some rich parents but that's about it, but even some rich kids will sway from it because it's is just too ugly.

Most people want slick looking cell phones, N-Gage is far from it. The novelty of having "a phone in a game machine" will run out soon, soonner or later they will buy another lighter, slimmer phone and just carry N-Gage as a portable game machine.

But I am sure whoever will make it better in a few years, at lower price, but for now, it's just a "nice attempt".

I will enjoy GBA SP($100) and wait for Sony PSP next year with the $200 I saved from not buying N-gage.

The Doc · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2003, 11:13:25 AM »

First of all, let me say that the N-Gage is not even targeting the same audience as the GBA SP. The N-Gage will debut on October 7, and no doubt the older crowd will imbrace it more so then the younger crowd will. Nokia is very serious about entering the console market and Nokia is going to be in the console market for the long haul. All of you Nintendo fanboys need to get a clue. I own a GBA SP and I think it sucks; most of the games are SNES ports and are targeted toward children. Nokia makes some of the best phones in the business, and they would not be in business long if they made cheap products. The N-Gage is a great idea and I am looking foward to geting one. The price at launch will be $300 here in the US, however you get what you pay for. The fact is this the GBA SP is a toy for children. N-Gage will be the future of mobile gaming.

The Doc

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2003, 11:26:51 AM »

I have tried the N-gage, and it fails miserably as a gaming system. I wouldn't even call it a gaming system. It's a gaming-wanna-be phone, that sucks at being a phone(ironic isn't it?). The screen looks washed out and crappy, the games aren't worth giving a second look, and the buttons are way too close for comfort. It's like playing an intense game on your cell phone; it's not freaking possible. This will most likely find its way into the Hall of Utter Crap alongside the likes of the PocketStation, Jaguar, and Virtual Boy.

Cap · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2003, 11:43:40 AM »

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Originally posted by: The Doc
The fact is this the GBA SP is a toy for children. N-Gage will be the future of mobile gaming.

The Doc

you call people nintendo fanboys and then you go on to say this? the n-gage the future of mobile gaming? the gba a childs toy? you sound like you work for nokia. even if the n-gage does manage to turn out better then every single impression of the system i have read so far, it will never have that kind of an impact in the market. why? even if the system does manage to be fairly successful, the psp is coming out just one year later.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2003, 11:47:12 AM »

He must work for that Nokia street team thing, which I must add is a load of crap. Nokia pays people to say their system is the greatest thing on Earth. If you can't unload the crap on consumers with specs, buy them with money...

The Doc · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2003, 04:43:58 PM »

Well Bill saying the N-Gage sucks is your opinion, and your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. Fanboys are so closed minded that it makes me sick, and that goes for all fanboys not just Nintendo fanboys. Its time that fanboys grow up and stop being babies. Oh and another thing, just because you do not like the N-Gage does not mean that the product is garbage.

The Doc

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2003, 05:02:00 PM »

Do not call me a fanboy. Those that use the word "fanboy" are completely ignorant to the fact that it is he himself that is the fanboy. Just because I say another system is crap, how does that make me a fanboy? If I told you I own a PS2, Xbox, and Dreamcast, am I still a fanboy? Unless you consider me a "videogame fanboy" the definition doesn't fit at all.

Second of all, I was expressing my opinion. Did I say that my opinion was 100% honest true for everyone? No, though I can't believe there are people that would shell out 300 bucks for such utter crap.

edit: Oh yeah...Did you read anything I wrote besides the last line? I have played the N-Gage. The reason I think the N-Gage is crap is not because I am a "fanboy" but because the thing is that bad.

Cap · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2003, 05:54:33 PM »

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Originally posted by: The Doc
Well Bill saying the N-Gage sucks is your opinion, and your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. Fanboys are so closed minded that it makes me sick, and that goes for all fanboys not just Nintendo fanboys. Its time that fanboys grow up and stop being babies. Oh and another thing, just because you do not like the N-Gage does not mean that the product is garbage.

The Doc

i know your comment wasnt directed at me, but i had some things to say about it.
isnt you calling the gba a childs toy an opinion? i dont consider it a toy at all, and i certainly dont consider myself a child. are you saying that only your opinion matters? you already pointed out that bill's means nothing to you. what are you here to discuss if nobodys opinion matters to you except for your own? are people fanboys for simply disagreeing with your opinions?

everything i have seen about the n-gage looks horrible. not one thing i have read about the system or the games has given me any reason to want to buy it(with the screen dimensions being my most hated aspect of the system). thats only my opinion though, so i doubt that matters to you. but while you may like the n-gage that doesnt make it the "future of mobile gaming", nor does it make people "babies" for not liking it.

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Author Topic: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP (Read 15721 times)