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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2008, 10:23:16 PM »
I haven't played Rush yet so I really can't compare them objectively. I think Sonic is about blazing through varied environments and finding out the hidden areas.Generally having fun in the level.What is your take thatguy?

I agree, to an extent, but you forget about the unique enemies in every new area, as well as a more unique level design featured in each zone as well.  With Sonic Rush, you run through each area as fast as possible.  Remember Sonic's spindash?  Well, you get that, and an upgraded form of it, as well.  The issue is, the speed boost allows you to run through the enemies, no damage, instant kill.  Not that you really care about not using that speed for a challenge.  There aren't very many unique enemies in the Rush line.  They're all similar to the Gamma-type bots in Adventure, in that they stand and shoot at you.  There aren't really stage-based enemies, unfortunately.

Breakaway platforms are few and far between, and the platforming is abysmal in the Rush line.  In the later half of the levels, there are long gaps to jump over.  However, the speed you need to run is high enough that, well, you won't have enough time the first time you play the stage.  You need to memorize the timing of the jump out of trial and error, and while you may think this makes for challenging gameplay, it really just means you'll have to fight repetition to beat some jump in the middle of the stage.  In the classic Sonic games, you stood nearer to the middle of the screen, and overall speed was a tad lower, allowing you to see jumps coming and make them the first time, given enough skill.

To me, a Sonic game should offer exploration, multiple paths, unique enemies in strategic places, cleverly designed pits, and strong platforming opportunities.  I think that covers it all.  Sonic Rush offers only speed and repetitious platforming, from that mix, which really doesn't go very well together.

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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2008, 10:59:07 PM »
I haven't played Rush yet so I really can't compare them objectively. I think Sonic is about blazing through varied environments and finding out the hidden areas.Generally having fun in the level.What is your take thatguy?

I agree, to an extent, but you forget about the unique enemies in every new area, as well as a more unique level design featured in each zone as well.  With Sonic Rush, you run through each area as fast as possible.  Remember Sonic's spindash?  Well, you get that, and an upgraded form of it, as well.  The issue is, the speed boost allows you to run through the enemies, no damage, instant kill.  Not that you really care about not using that speed for a challenge.  There aren't very many unique enemies in the Rush line.  They're all similar to the Gamma-type bots in Adventure, in that they stand and shoot at you.  There aren't really stage-based enemies, unfortunately.

Breakaway platforms are few and far between, and the platforming is abysmal in the Rush line.  In the later half of the levels, there are long gaps to jump over.  However, the speed you need to run is high enough that, well, you won't have enough time the first time you play the stage.  You need to memorize the timing of the jump out of trial and error, and while you may think this makes for challenging gameplay, it really just means you'll have to fight repetition to beat some jump in the middle of the stage.  In the classic Sonic games, you stood nearer to the middle of the screen, and overall speed was a tad lower, allowing you to see jumps coming and make them the first time, given enough skill.

To me, a Sonic game should offer exploration, multiple paths, unique enemies in strategic places, cleverly designed pits, and strong platforming opportunities.  I think that covers it all.  Sonic Rush offers only speed and repetitious platforming, from that mix, which really doesn't go very well together.

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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #177 on: September 04, 2008, 07:53:53 AM »
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« Reply #178 on: September 04, 2008, 02:20:18 PM »
I think the problem is too many people didn't play the genesis games and are getting into Sonic now or recently.  They don't want to seem ignorant so they just go with advertisements and what they know, Sonic is fast.  They put this ahead of all the other qualities when the good sonic games were so much more.  Hell, the bosses were on a static screen that prevented Sonic from even going fast.

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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #179 on: September 06, 2008, 01:49:23 PM »
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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #180 on: September 07, 2008, 04:00:29 AM »
In the classic Sonic games, you stood nearer to the middle of the screen, and overall speed was a tad lower, allowing you to see jumps coming and make them the first time, given enough skill.

Not that it made a difference to me, I couldn't make those jumps in the old games either so Sonic Rush wasn't a downgrade.

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« Reply #181 on: September 11, 2008, 01:19:41 AM »
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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #182 on: September 12, 2008, 05:46:50 PM »
http://Http://gametrailers.com/player/39900.html
 This is from the 360 version. I just posted it so you could see it in motion. It also has the dreaded Werehog.
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« Reply #183 on: September 13, 2008, 11:25:22 PM »
One part in the video looked decent, the part with the spinning platforms and a flame-thrower trap.  The rest looked like "Hold forward and jump at easily cued times."

Oh, and the Werehog scenes there seemed uninspired.  Although, now I believe a Plastic Man game could have potential with the right humor and style.

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« Reply #184 on: September 19, 2008, 12:48:50 AM »
Controls info from NP.
Sonic
- Use analog stick to move, A button to jump.
-quick dodge by holding B and moving analog stick left or right.
-Drift by holding B or Z
-Shake Wiimote for homing attack
-shake wiimote while on ground to get a speed boost

Werehog
Wiimote & nunchuk swings emulate Sonics left and right arms
-block with Z
-combo by swinging wiimote and nunchuk up/down and towards each other
-grab and throw enemies by pushing B
-press C to use "Unleashed" mode which gives you new moves and you take less damage
-grab enemies in midair and swing wiimote to swing them around
-climb by lifting wiimote and nunchuk one after the other
-raise gates by lifting both wiimote and nunchuk up
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« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2008, 04:34:14 PM »
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« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2008, 08:34:03 PM »
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« Reply #187 on: October 24, 2008, 10:22:26 PM »
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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #188 on: October 31, 2008, 05:02:11 PM »
http://www.sega.com/sonicunleashed/us/

The US Sonic Unleashed site has been given a Holloween make over.
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« Reply #189 on: October 31, 2008, 06:56:28 PM »
Some of you might remember a year or 2 ago when  I swore off of Sonic. Now I keep watching these trailers, and as I watch I try not to get excited, for the fear of getting another burn. But gosh darnit, I want to be excited for Sonic again.

I also worry about the fact that it looks like another Sonic Rush 2 with way to much running and not enough exploration. But there are certain times when I see, "oh hey if he slowed down for a sec he could have went that way or got that thing." And recently I saw a few more robots that looked alittle more classic and not like a stupid generic man bot, the likes of which started to flood Sonic in Sonic Adventure 2. Though not enough, where are the spike snails? Caterkillers, robot sharks that jump out of the water? Saw  buzzbomber type enemy though which is always good.

Now so far we havn't been introduced to one single new character except Sonic and his split personality. Which is absolutely fantastic. But when you think about it, the Wolfhog is the brand new character that has a completely different and slower style of play that no one wants to play with.

If the Sonic stages are many and exceptional I will probably run back to Sonic. As long as the wolf portions are bearable and I can play as Knuckles and Tails in Sonic's Stages as unlockables. 




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Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« Reply #190 on: October 31, 2008, 07:27:18 PM »
I'm excited for Black Knight.  Unleashed, not at all.
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« Reply #191 on: October 31, 2008, 07:44:34 PM »
Why exactly?
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« Reply #192 on: October 31, 2008, 08:34:49 PM »
Black Knight looks good.
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« Reply #193 on: October 31, 2008, 09:56:44 PM »
Black Knight looks good.
Agree but I haven't found very much info on it.
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« Reply #194 on: November 01, 2008, 04:44:03 PM »
Why exactly?

Black Knight is being done by the Secret Rings team, who's the only team to come close to making a good 3d Sonic.  If they just fix the major flaws that Secret Rings had then Black Knight could turn out to be a great game.
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« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2008, 07:25:22 PM »
I highly doubt the flaws will be fixed. Secret Rings team is still part of Sonic Team, and they have problems listening to their fans.
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« Reply #196 on: November 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM »
Better than all the NEW FLAWS Unleashed will introduce due to multiplatform development.
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« Reply #197 on: November 12, 2008, 03:15:40 AM »
Well here is the US Commercial

All I got to say is that is a unique way to show of the two sides of the game.
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« Reply #198 on: November 12, 2008, 03:50:51 AM »
lol thats such a 90's video game commercial. That was sweet.
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« Reply #199 on: November 18, 2008, 03:37:30 AM »
Well the Wii and PS2 versions of this game are coming out today.While the 360 will get it sometime next week and the PS3 version will come out sometime in December.
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