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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2007, 06:37:41 PM »
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The only game I've played with good user created content is Starcraft.


I think this is the key. Combine level editors, object editors, and script editors for a real user-creation framework. Heaven knows the PS3 is close enough to a full-fledged PC anyways.

There are only a limited amount of things you can do with a predefined level editor that just lets you play with objects. If you want real customizable content, give the user access to the internal workings without making the product too inaccessible.
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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2007, 06:50:12 PM »
But that's the thing.  Can we do that with LBP?  No, I don't think we can.  Maybe I'm wrong.
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« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2007, 08:55:10 PM »
LBP with triggers would be too much awesome. The PS3 would explode. EXPLODE!!!

The Wii could probably handle that much awesome though.
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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2007, 12:37:04 AM »
Nintendo is promoting downloading user-made Picross puzzles all the time...

Anyway, I believe this thread was about Shiny Dynasty Warriors: Something about a sword or so.
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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #104 on: September 04, 2007, 08:44:37 AM »
Well, the game is up to a 8.1 on Gamerankings, which is not bad at all.  I don't think it's going to save the PS3, but then I never did...from a sales perspective, PS3's holiday lineup was pretty much pooched the day Grand Theft Auto got delayed.  I don't think people buy brand-new systems for games they've never heard of.  Then again, what about Halo?
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RE:PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #105 on: September 04, 2007, 08:54:27 AM »
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Well, the game is up to a 8.1 on Gamerankings, which is not bad at all.  I don't think it's going to save the PS3, but then I never did...from a sales perspective, PS3's holiday lineup was pretty much pooched the day Grand Theft Auto got delayed.  I don't think people buy brand-new systems for games they've never heard of.  Then again, what about Halo?


81% is NOT good, especially when the scores are hovering around 70-80%. If you want a game to be a killer app it better do better than that.
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« Reply #106 on: September 04, 2007, 09:17:03 AM »
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« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2007, 09:20:16 AM »
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killer apps.


Haha, well for one we are talking about two different types of games. MP8 and Wii Sports are casual games which get ALOT more leeway, but when you are talking about full blown games that are built around being killer apps and they get an 81% that is bad.  
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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #108 on: September 04, 2007, 10:18:08 AM »
81% is pretty good for a game all you whiney nintendo fanboys/gals are complaning about..
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« Reply #109 on: September 04, 2007, 10:29:09 AM »
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81% is pretty good for a game all you whiney nintendo fanboys/gals are complaning about..


Actually that is pretty bad for one of Sony's big three, you aren't going to get systems off store shelves by selling people a slightly above average action beat em game.
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RE: PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #110 on: September 04, 2007, 11:11:35 AM »
81% is still way too high from all the reviews I've read...I'm sick of reviewers giving games leeway because of the visuals...
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« Reply #111 on: September 04, 2007, 11:13:44 AM »
...or because it has online, like in 2-5 years you will still be able to use that feature because the servers are going to be shut down?
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« Reply #112 on: September 05, 2007, 03:29:51 AM »
Actually, GP, I agree that the game needs to be better if they want it to sell systems, I was just pointing out that it could be better than the IGN review claims.

Realistically, though, the game could be all 9s and it still wouldn't "save" the PS3.  The price and lack of games have both stacked the deck against it for months now.  MGS 4 and Final Fantasy XIII are going to have to be freaking amazing to turn this ship around.
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RE:PS3's Killer App Gets A 7.0 (decent) From IGN
« Reply #113 on: September 05, 2007, 08:56:11 AM »
I know that there is a Lair thread, but this goes along with the theme of this post:

Two quotes from IGN's review. or bashing depending on how you look at it


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It was somewhere in the neighborhood of my fourth pass over a bridge filled with two warring factions and a bunch of evil rhinos that I went from thinking Lair wasn't that bad to wondering if Lucifer himself pressed this Blu-ray disc in the pits of hell


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No doubt, that sounds interesting and fun; however, Lair's terrible controls and god-awful lock-on system make this a mission worthy of swallowing the business end of a shotgun to avoid.


I stopped reading when I saw the score was a 4.9.

How much worse can the PS3 suck when it's "exclusivekiller apps" suck. The good multiplatform games aren't going to sell systems for PS3 with the saturation of the Xbox360.


Well the PS3 does still have Home and LBP...

Edit: had the whole thing spoiler tagged lol
 
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RE:PS3's Killer Apps Get A 7.0 (decent) And A 4.9 (Poor) From IGN
« Reply #114 on: September 05, 2007, 09:12:25 AM »
Let me just add that Tekken Online also received a 7.0 from IGN. at least I don't have to change the title again lol

The "Closing Comments" wrap it up nicely:

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It's great to see Dark Resurrection Online rectify the missing online component from March's launch of the title with an added patch. However, for what you pay for the patch, you're not really receiving a huge return on your investment. Apart from the offline Survival mode, there's no additional content to be found or unlocked. Online play, while fun, is relatively generic and nothing that you haven't seen before. It's still a decent thing to have, but you're not really experiencing the best add on packs that the PSN has to offer.


What do they mean by "you're not really experiencing the best add on packs that the PSN has to offer"? I don't get it...

I should mention that for a person who likes fighting games this still sounds like a buy to me because of the online offering, though I would have to already own a PS3, this game doesn't make me want to buy one.

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RE: PS3's Killer Apps Get A 7.0 (decent) And A 4.9 (Poor) From IGN
« Reply #115 on: September 05, 2007, 10:06:22 AM »
See you did a good job pointing out my original point. 7 isn't bad.  4.9 is bad.

Heavenly Sword receiving a 7 isn't that big of a deal.  All in all, 7 is a pretty good score and to me it means that fans of the genre (That would be the action-taptaptap genre) will still love it.

This Lair news is crazy though.  Combine the 4.9 with what PA has said...
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Eesh.  I was really looking forward to that game too.  It will probably still be worth 20 bucks to me (when it drops) just to see what all the hub-bub was about... but that's just crazy.  
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RE: PS3's Killer Apps Get A 7.0 (decent) And A 4.9 (Poor) From IGN
« Reply #116 on: September 05, 2007, 11:18:48 AM »
Wait...was that really a quote from the review? What happened to games being 'fun'?
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« Reply #117 on: September 05, 2007, 11:31:35 AM »
Well let me say that I will probably get Heaenvly Sword AND Lair, but not sure when ($60 for a game makes those more than impulse buys).
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« Reply #118 on: September 05, 2007, 11:53:38 AM »
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I found myself rolling my eyes at what I was seeing on the screen -- I'm talking about tearing, square waves, a chugging framerate and water effects that look like sand.


I don't get it. Isn't the point of buying a super-powerful console so that you don't have to deal with all the performance bullcrap that goes along with PC gaming?  
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RE:PS3's Killer Apps Get A 7.0 (decent) And A 4.9 (Poor) From IGN
« Reply #119 on: September 05, 2007, 12:16:20 PM »
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I found myself rolling my eyes at what I was seeing on the screen -- I'm talking about tearing, square waves, a chugging framerate and water effects that look like sand.


I don't get it. Isn't the point of buying a super-powerful console so that you don't have to deal with all the performance bullcrap that goes along with PC gaming?


Ugh, I hate poor framerates, personally I think there is no excuse for it. Tone down the visuals a bit because they are nothing without a solid framerate to suck you in.
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« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2007, 02:03:09 PM »
GP i really hope you wer joking about buying these games, jeebus a 4.9?

About 7 being a bad score; I would be pissed as hell if Super Mario Galaxy or MP:3 got a 7 in their reviews because they are suppoed to be so much more than that, much like Heavenly Sword was supposed to be.

Lair, Heavenly Sword, Mario, Zelda, and Metroid are as the title of this thread suggest; "Killer Apps" they aren't supposed to get 7's they're supposed to push close to 10's. They're supposed to be games everyone who has a system will think about buying, and people who don't have the system consider buying one just to play that game. The Nintendo titles listed have so far accomplished that. The Sony ones have not, Heavenly Sword will only appeal to a certain gamer, and Lair will appeal to no one except perhaps people who... insert your own witty comment I cant' think of one

They should be so much more.
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« Reply #121 on: September 05, 2007, 02:42:35 PM »
"Hardcore" gamers will still probably buy a sizable amount of copies of these games anyways due to the sheer weight of how well these games present themselves.
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« Reply #122 on: September 05, 2007, 07:58:59 PM »
Killer apps are misunderstood.

The killer apps are identified AFTER the game is out, and people have voted with $$$.  "killer app" is just marketing speak made up to differentiate and put down the GameCube when it was apparent it was going downhill.
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RE: PS3's Killer Apps Get A 7.0 (decent) And A 4.9 (Poor) From IGN
« Reply #123 on: September 05, 2007, 08:01:57 PM »
You know what the first killer app was? Visi Calc.
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« Reply #124 on: September 05, 2007, 09:04:07 PM »
Sony fanboys seem to take every announced exclusive and claim it's a "killer app". IMO that's grasping at straws.
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