Topic: Official SSBB SmashDate Discussion

[Mashiro]

With this last delay (or impending delay for NA) I think it's safe to say Smash will be one of the greatest games ever made.

Just throwin' it out there.

[Smash_Brother]

I've been watching the Sonic movie again and again...DAMN he's fast. I'm guessing he'll probably be one of the lightest characters in the game to make up for his speed.

I also love the last clip of the movie where he shakes his finger at the camera like in the Sonic games of old. That was a welcome throwback.

[NinjaWang]

Notice the sound effect when he stops. Classic

[nickmitch]

Why is your avatar so big?

[ThePerm]

Screw it Megaman and Leon Kennedy! Lets hope for as many characters as we can get, and bomberman, konami owns bomberman now that they own hudson

[Smash_Brother]

Wait, Konami owns Hudson!?

When did THAT happen?

[Bill Aurion]

There's a break in all the awesome that's been going on, so now it's time to do a second-by-second breakdown of all the cool neat things I see in these new trailers...

Sonic trailer:
0:01 - Mario fighting off Goombas in an area we know to be in Adventure Mode...Does this mean that we could run into Sonic or is this made purely for the trailer?
0:12 - Looks like a taunt...
0:15 - Sonic using his Spin Dash for the first time of many in the trailer...Most likely his standard B attack...
0:16 - The sound that Sonic makes braking after his Spin Dash!  Old-school sound effect!
0:24 - Classic "Uh oh, gonna fall!" animation!
0:26 - Lock-on attack from Secret Rings!  (Most likely Down+B attack...)  You can also see Mario using FLUDD for the first time!
0:28 - Sonic's Grab + Down Attack most likely...
0:29 - Oh yeah, his classic jump sound effect is in too!
0:34 - Most likely Up+B Spring Jump, but a bit difficult to tell...
0:35 - Warp Star!  Minor, but it's also really cool how Link's Spin Attack has the little glint of light at the end of the attack...
0:38 - CLASSIC FIRE FLOWER!  New enemy that looks like a fish with a giant eyeball...Also some interesting new round obstacle things that run on a set path...
0:41 - Oh man, Sonic will be fun to use in Adventure Mode...
0:43 - The money shot of the trailer...Mario and Sonic taunts perhaps?
0:45 - Super Sonic - Sonic's Final Smash, obviously...

Full Trailer:
0:04 - Did Peach's Hip Thrust attack always produce hearts?  And geez, Kirby got DRILLED by that one multi-thrust attack of Meta Knight's, all across the platform!
0:06 - Andross!  Bowser took around 40 damage before getting launched...
0:09 - Bridge of Eldin looks pretty wide!  And the Smash Ball appears to just float across the stage, possibly even sinking through it unlike other items...Possibility of multiple Smash Balls or selectable Zero Suit Samus due to her appearance...
0:10 - Fox Shadow Dashes into the Smash Ball to bring out the Landmaster!
0:11 - Yoshi causing destruction on Shadow Moses with his Super Dragon Final Smash, destroying the side walls in the process...Looks REALLY chaotic!
0:14 - New Pokemon!  Kyogre!
0:15 - New Pokemon!  Torchic!  ALSO, New Stage!  Looks Metroid-based! (Though it COULD be the area underneath the Fire Emblem throne room, too early to tell)
0:17 - Piplup in motion...
0:17 - Snorlax looks a lot more 3-dimensional this time around...Looks nice!
0:17 - Lakitu looking good...
0:19 - Lyn!  I like how she's all "Hm?"  I love all the stuff going on in the background of the Lylat Cruise stage too...
0:20 - Mr. Resetti covering up the screen with text...
0:25 - The trophies look really nice!
0:34 - Oh man, the fanfare here is epic...
0:36 - Petey animates GREAT!
0:37 - Ahaha, Poppants!  I also love the stage design here, with the rolling hill and the cloud platforms...Also a new cloud-type enemy!
0:38 - Fox blowing up some Kirby-esque blocks...
0:40 - Donkey Kong Country deja vu!  The door at the end reminds me of Super Paper Mario...
0:42 - Looks like Snake's intro in Adventure Mode, perhaps?
0:43 - Definitely a Yoshi taunt...
0:46 - Ice Climbers taunt...Wait, what is that stage they are on!?
0:47 - Lucas taunt, perhaps?  Looks like he's using a "Life-up" move (or faking one), but it's hard to tell...
0:48 - Holy crap Ike's taunt is bad-ass...
0:50 - Can see Pokemon Trainer yelling orders to his Pokemon, but you don't actually hear a voice or sound...
0:51 - It's that new stage area again!
0:52 - DK and Diddy taunts...
0:54 - Wario taunt...I like how his mustache bounces when he closes his mouth... =D
0:55 - Link and Zelda taunts, with K.K. in the background!
0:56 - Samus missing a chance to zap Fox with her stun gun...
0:57 - Haha, Peach dancing...New move or taunt?  I'm going to go with taunt...
0:59 - Pit and Samus taunting, but I can't tell if Pikachu's is just his idle animation...
0:59 - Kirby and Meta Knight taunting...Meta Knight's is also cool, with his "swishing the blood" from his sword and checking the straightness of the blade...
1:00 - Aaaaand, ending with Mario's forward smash...  

[Smash_Brother]

I'm guessing there will be multiple taunts in this game...

We've seen Wario do the ass-wiggle and now we're seeing what looks like a different taunt.

Either the dev team can't decide or there are multiple ones to choose from.

[ThePerm]

maybe the taunts alternate, like pressing the button on some licensed good and it changes until it loops back.  We all know the last update will be Luigi with his new poltergeist 3000 vacuum powers.

[IceCold]

So yeah, the Dojo has been overloaded and the server's down.. I've been wondering how many clicks they've been getting over the past few months (especially with the big updates like the WiFi and Sonic ones) - apparently quite a few!

[UltimatePartyBear]

Pichu had two taunts in Melee, depending on which way he was facing.  I'm hoping you can choose which taunt to perform based on which direction on the D-pad you press.  I'm also hoping for every character to have short and long taunts.  Certain characters have such time-consuming taunts that managing to complete them really rubs it in when you're doing well.  Mario and Young Link in particular come to mind.  It would be nice if you could rub it in like that with every character.  Conversely, it would be nice to have the option of doing a quick taunt without leaving yourself open for so long.

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Originally posted by: IceCold
So yeah, the Dojo has been overloaded and the server's down.. I've been wondering how many clicks they've been getting over the past few months (especially with the big updates like the WiFi and Sonic ones) - apparently quite a few!

It's weird.  Usually the Dojo doesn't respond well for me.  I had to go to gametrailers to see the Snake videos because they wouldn't load from the Dojo for me, and plenty of times my computer just refuses to believe that the site even exists.  Today, though, it's nice and responsive.

[ThePerm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Soft

Konami owns 59% of it, thus making it the now parent company  

[Smash_Brother]

It's sad: the Dojo could run adds for obscure Nintendo games, like Elite Beat Agents, and thrust those games into the spotlight and better sales.

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Originally posted by: ThePerm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Soft

Konami owns 59% of it, thus making it the now parent company

Wow, I wonder how that one slipped by me...

Thanks.

[ThePerm]

perms wishlist for appeareances

Bomberman-hudson/konami - Wario and Bomberman have a rivalry
Megaman-Capcom - dr wiley should be in a level
Pacman-namco- the ghosts should be level assisrs
Goemon-konami - always been a favorite..too bad he's never been popular
Dr. Robotnik/aka Eggman-Sega - if their going to have bowser they should have Eggman and Ganon
Liquid Snake-konami--likewise, or if not Liquid then Revovler Ocelot
   

[anubis6789]

What about a Belmont?

[Bill Aurion]

I'd rather each company get a single representative, personally...

[Sessha]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I'd rather each company get a single representative, personally...

I feel the same way I don't know Bill's reasons but I want the game to identifiable as a Nintendo franchise, too many guests may give people the wrong idea.  

[Smash_Brother]

Simon would have made much, MUCH more sense than Snake, and then if Capcom gave us Megaman, we'd have the Captain N trio reunited at long last.

[ThePerm]

Simon Belmont is a dead character, he hasn't been much used outside of the original games. The games and stories have progressed so much beyond the Simon character than he's just one of many characters in the Castlevania legacy.

Megamans possible because Capcom wants to make some moneyhats and is a fan favorite, idk who hates Megaman

likewise for bomberman, not to mention bomberman would make for great gameplay

Goemon is Konami's mascot, but of course is nowhere near as popular as Snake, so who knows, however putting him in Smash Bros would be good advertising.

Pacman may be likely because he's already made some cameos in Nintendo's games like Mario Kart arcade

[Smash_Brother]

Uhh, Game and Watch, Ice Climbers?

[ThePerm]

Ice Climbers were already announced, Game & Watch was a favorite on Melee for me. Lets hope. Actually putting him in would make sense because all he has is standard generic moves, i dont see how he could effect gameplay.

[Luigi Dude]

Well even though I'm late I'll say it anyway.

F*CK YEAH BABY IT'S SONIC THE F*CKING HEDGEHOG!!!!


Yeah I knew Sonic was in the game but still, actually seeing him there just makes my head feel like it's  going to explode.


Oh and one thing I'd like to add that nobody else has said yet, Marth's Fire Emblem being remade for the DS  Well I think it's safe to say Marth is coming back now.  He's the icon of the series in Japan and is now the star of an upcoming Fire Emblem game which will probably be released in the US making him no longer a Japan only character either.  

[Bill Aurion]

I know I've already mentioned it, but Ike's taunt truly is the coolest thing ever...



AUGH, HARD-ON FOR IKE!

[Mashiro]

Fully agreed Bill fully agreed lol.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: ThePerm
Ice Climbers were already announced, Game & Watch was a favorite on Melee for me. Lets hope. Actually putting him in would make sense because all he has is standard generic moves, i dont see how he could effect gameplay.

You misunderstand me.

I mean that both Ice Climbers and G&W are from series which are both very much dead and gone (unless you count the G&W GBA game recently...). Belmont sharing the same fate doesn't invalidate him for SSB, really.