Topic: E3: Interview answers about Animal Crossing, a new Zelda, 1:1 sword fighter and Pikmin.

[Ian Sane]

"The DS stylus would be very well suited to the task, and the mic would let you whistle for them yourself."

What about those of us who can't whistle?  I'm of the idea that yelling into a mic like an idiot for something that doesn't have voice recognition doesn't make something more fun.  I say stick with a button push for the whistle (or at least make it an option) so we don't look like idiots in public.  Other than that I'm not against Pikmin on the DS.  I think the time specific concept of it though makes it better suited for consoles.

"Considering the fact Pikmin 2 wasn't exactly a retail juggernaut it could make Nintendo much more likely to keep going on the series sooner rather than later."

I really hope Nintendo doesn't make decisions based on Gamecube sales for games that weren't marketed worth a sh!t during a time where NOTHING was selling on the Cube.  Nintendo can only properly learn from the Cube if they acknowledge that it's failings were almost completely their own fault.  They're making Batallion Wars for the Wii which I'm sure sold MUCH worse than Pikmin 2 so there's hope.  Pikmin is a series that SHOULD be huge if marketed correctly on a console people actually want to own.

[Kairon]

I could actually see a Pikmin on DS... that's something I've never thought about before Crimm!

[Hostile Creation]

Well, mantidor, you're welcome to wonder about those games.  But don't expect an answer if Nintendo isn't prepared to give one, and don't expect an answer to materialize just because you want one.  Nintendo doesn't bend to the whim of every finger-tapping moron on the internet, they've got a business plan and they have development times and they have to keep up anticipation for things.  Why would they confirm a new Zelda game and Pikmin when they're already spreading their resources pretty thin, between SMG, MP3, and SSBB, to name the big ones.  How about we wait until those are released, and then expect some information.

[Mashiro]

All I'm saying is Karion that even the slightest hint that Zelda may not make it to Wii is just unacceptable.

I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.

Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
All I'm saying is Karion that even the slightest hint that Zelda may not make it to Wii is just unacceptable.

I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.

Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.

Would you prefer a no comment?

[Mashiro]

In this case? Yeah maybe I would.

[Crimm]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
All I'm saying is Karion that even the slightest hint that Zelda may not make it to Wii is just unacceptable.

I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.

Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.

You needa learn not to listen to a word Nintendo says.  Really, there's almost never any rhyme or reason behind half of it.  We know there will be a another Zelda game.  Every system Nintendo has put out, except the SNES and the Virtual Boy, have had 2+ Zelda games.  The only chance we don't get a second is Nintendo kills the Wii in 3 or 4 years and makes the jump to HD sooner than later.  With current sales of Wii hardware that seems unlikey.

[Mashiro]

Yeah I guess I shouldn't listen to them but it's hard not to >.<

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Well, mantidor, you're welcome to wonder about those games.  But don't expect an answer if Nintendo isn't prepared to give one, and don't expect an answer to materialize just because you want one.  Nintendo doesn't bend to the whim of every finger-tapping moron on the internet, they've got a business plan and they have development times and they have to keep up anticipation for things.  Why would they confirm a new Zelda game and Pikmin when they're already spreading their resources pretty thin, between SMG, MP3, and SSBB, to name the big ones.  How about we wait until those are released, and then expect some information.

why is it so wrong for me to ask for the things I want? why its so wrong to be dissapointed that I don't get an answer? apparently this puts me in the level of morons, while your "Nintendo's finances are the most important thing!" make you feel better, I guess you have stocks on them or something. I also don't see how not confirming or hinting positively rather than negatively doesn't allow them to "keep up anticipation for things", thats just... jeez, I have no words, you keep anticipation by not announcing or hinting about a game? really?

One thing is for sure, if miyamoto whould have said "theres always new ideas for zelda in the works but they take time" as opposed to what he said, and my example says just as much as his statement, you would never have come to this thread saying "damn, they are spreading their resources pretty thin, what are you doing Nintendo!?".

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Yeah I guess I shouldn't listen to them but it's hard not to >.<

PErsonally I thought they let out enough, it is good to know that Pikmin is not forgotten and there is a BIG chance of it returning, and that Animal Crossing should be shown soon. What more can you ask for?

[Nick DiMola]

Perhaps Miyamoto specifically mentioning Zelda taking three years and the possibility it might not be on the Wii is no coincidence. Maybe it is some insight as to how long the life span of the Wii is, which may be potentially shorter than the average console. Probably not true, but hey you never know.  

[Bill Aurion]

In a Gamespot interview with Miyamoto...

"Old franchises that we haven't seen on Wii yet that some people are asking about are in work for the system and you don't have to worry about them."

There's your non-answer on hardcore games...Now stop the whining...

[Mashiro]

I'm pretty much harking on the Zelda response GP, I don't really have an issue with the rest.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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I'm pretty much harking on the Zelda response GP, I don't really have an issue with the rest.

Maybe they don't know, maybe it was an honest answer. Like Jack stated there may be things going on behind the scenes that makes the next Zelda unsure.

[Mashiro]

Ok I'm gonna try to make my point on Zelda as clear as I can:

Zelda should not be an unsure issue for Wii. It just shouldn't. Period. Zelda TP was a great fantastic game but it was designed to be on the Cube and was delayed for added Wii functionality. Wii should without a doubt get a Zelda built from the ground up for the system. It shouldn't be a maybe or a possibility it just should happen.

That's my opinion on the matter.

[ShyGuy]

So is it confirmed that Perrin Kaplan left and Beth Llewellyn and George Harrison stayed?  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Ok I'm gonna try to make my point on Zelda as clear as I can:

Zelda should not be an unsure issue for Wii. It just shouldn't. Period. Zelda TP was a great fantastic game but it was designed to be on the Cube and was delayed for added Wii functionality. Wii should without a doubt get a Zelda built from the ground up for the system. It shouldn't be a maybe or a possibility it just should happen.

That's my opinion on the matter.

But if they aren't sure, they shouldn't be stating they are sure. I agree, there should be a Zelda game made up from the ground up for Wii but if, for whatever behind the scenes reason, Miyamoto and co aren't sure, I'd rather them tell me that than say it isn't or it is.

[Mashiro]

::sighs:: GP it isn't that they answered (maybe) truthfully on the issue that's annoying me. It's that Zelda having the remote possibility of not being on Wii that annoys me. It should just not be in question.

So once again to reiterate, my problem isn't them telling the truth (again maybe), it's the fact that the truth they tell is just so wrong. Wii Zelda should be one of those things that is just going to happen.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
::sighs:: GP it isn't that they answered (maybe) truthfully on the issue that's annoying me. It's that Zelda having the remote possibility of not being on Wii that annoys me. It should just not be in question.

So once again to reiterate, my problem isn't them telling the truth (again maybe), it's the fact that the truth they tell is just so wrong. Wii Zelda should be one of those things that is just going to happen.

What if the Wii will have a short lifespan and will have an upgrade in a couple of years like Mr. Jack suggested? I'd much rather wait another generation for a GREAT Zelda game then have one rushed out the door in a year or two that is GOOD. Regardless though I do understand your concerns, but really I think it is too early to get too upset, at the earliest a new Zelda game would probably take 2 years since it would be built from the ground up.

[Mashiro]

If the Wii has such a short life span well then I don't know. It'd be kinda sad cause that means this rush of games will probably be the last we see on the system =/

[Ian Sane]

"We know there will be a another Zelda game. Every system Nintendo has put out, except the SNES and the Virtual Boy, have had 2+ Zelda games."

Nintendo has changed though so what used to be a given no longer certainly is.  A few years ago Nintendo would never even have released something like Wii Fit and they sure as hell wouldn't have made it the main focus of their E3 presentation.  A few years ago the Japanese market still had good tastes... I mean was interested in gaming.  A few years ago "non-gamer" wasn't a term anyone used and no one including Nintendo ever thought about targeting them specifically beyond just hoping a game designed for gamers had crossover appeal.  This is a different Nintendo with different goals so what happened in the past is irrelevent.  We can't assume anything when it comes to traditional gaming which Zelda falls into.  We can't even assume normal console lifespans.  After all Nintendo's portables, which have been more popular with the mainstream, have not had a five year lifespan since the original Gameboy.  The GBC and GBA were both cut short and the target demo didn't seem to care.  Idiots buy a new iPod they don't need every few years so why not a new console?

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
If the Wii has such a short life span well then I don't know. It'd be kinda sad cause that means this rush of games will probably be the last we see on the system =/

That is true, but then again look at it this way we are getting one heck of a gaming lineup this august through christmas, never before seen on a Nintendo system.

[mantidor]

I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"We know there will be a another Zelda game. Every system Nintendo has put out, except the SNES and the Virtual Boy, have had 2+ Zelda games."

Nintendo has changed though so what used to be a given no longer certainly is.  A few years ago Nintendo would never even have released something like Wii Fit and they sure as hell wouldn't have made it the main focus of their E3 presentation.  A few years ago the Japanese market still had good tastes... I mean was interested in gaming.  A few years ago "non-gamer" wasn't a term anyone used and no one including Nintendo ever thought about targeting them specifically beyond just hoping a game designed for gamers had crossover appeal.  This is a different Nintendo with different goals so what happened in the past is irrelevent.  We can't assume anything when it comes to traditional gaming which Zelda falls into.  We can't even assume normal console lifespans.  After all Nintendo's portables, which have been more popular with the mainstream, have not had a five year lifespan since the original Gameboy.  The GBC and GBA were both cut short and the target demo didn't seem to care.  Idiots buy a new iPod they don't need every few years so why not a new console?

So people who like casual games don't have any taste? Get off your high horse Ian, and realize good games aren't what Ian thinks are good games.

[Mashiro]

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Originally posted by: mantidor
I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.

Well said, I agree.

Edit: the one thing I will agree with Ian is that you cannot take standards from the past and always apply them.

For example: Anyone remember when all new Nintendo systems launched with a Mario title?