Author Topic: Fun with Numbers (Version 1)  (Read 25421 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BlackNMild2k1

  • Animal Crossing Hustler
  • Score: 410
    • View Profile
RE:Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2007, 04:46:37 PM »
Well I suggested Yellow for a reason that will become obvious once you adopt it into the chart.

try it and get back to me....

Offline Kairon

  • T_T
  • NWR Staff Pro
  • Score: 48
    • View Profile
RE:Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2007, 05:01:09 PM »
Wakka wakka.
Carmine Red, Associate Editor

A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
Some shall be pardon'd, and some punished:
For never was a story of more woe
Than this of Sega and her Mashiro.

Offline Ceric

  • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
  • Score: 0
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2007, 05:24:24 AM »

Ok, this is the first one with the new Color Scheme and to be generated straight to a file.  Which was a lot simpler then I thought it be once I dug around more.   Notice I kept the gradient on handhelds par suggestion because it allows you to quickly identify how much of the market is truly made up of consoles or handhelds.  Also I'm trying to keep things smaller then 240 by 240 where possible for people like UncleBob.  
Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
so, I don't have to edit as Much.

Offline BlackNMild2k1

  • Animal Crossing Hustler
  • Score: 410
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2007, 05:48:28 AM »
Thats look sgreat, but I would only change one thing, the color of GBA or PSP as they both use the same two colors (Red).
Even though PSP is Black & Red(back slashed) and GBA is Red & Black(front slashed), at a glance it could look too similar.

Offline Ceric

  • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
  • Score: 0
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2007, 05:53:31 AM »
Actually GBA is using a burnt orange technically but yeah I need to find a brighter orange to mimic the Spice color.

New Color plus placement test.




Methinks I'm going to ditch the Last Week graphic because then the Pie Charts will fit in bounds.  
Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
so, I don't have to edit as Much.

Offline BlackNMild2k1

  • Animal Crossing Hustler
  • Score: 410
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2007, 06:29:20 AM »
Can you also change Nintendo to a brighter color just to lighten up the charts a lil bit?

Offline Ceric

  • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
  • Score: 0
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2007, 07:52:43 AM »

Nintendo being red... I actually might have a different approach and actually put the company's logo as the background.  Though I don't know how well that would work for MS.
Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
so, I don't have to edit as Much.

Offline Ceric

  • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
  • Score: 0
    • View Profile
RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.84)
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2007, 10:51:21 AM »
Extropolated from  Media Create May 28th - June 3rd

Companies



Nintendo (¥4,467,951,474.00 $36,712,299.86 €27,495,732.27)
  • Sold ~27,680 units per day this week (~134/min ~8,073/hour )

    Sony (¥1,153,832,296.00 $9,480,818.56 €7,100,673.33)
  • Sold ~6,738 units per day this week (~33/min ~1,965/hour )

    Microsoft (¥69,432,510.00 $570,513.61 €427,287.03)
  • Sold ~317 units per day this week (~92/hour )

    Systems



    DS (¥2,032,981,500.00 $16,704,618.86 €12,510,949.45)
  • Sold ~17,601 units per day this week (~85/min ~5,134/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~27 weeks
    Wii (¥2,427,230,400.00 $19,944,086.41 €14,937,153.55)
  • Sold ~9,964 units per day this week (~48/min ~2,906/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PSP in ~66 weeks or ~1 years 14 weeks
  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~309 weeks or ~5 years 49 weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~184 weeks or ~3 years 28 weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~22 weeks
    PSP (¥535,383,696.00 $4,399,145.09 €3,294,746.34)
  • Sold ~3,765 units per day this week (~18/min ~1,098/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~1,033 weeks or ~19 years 45 weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~382 weeks or ~7 years 18 weeks
    PS2 (¥174,847,200.00 $1,436,685.89 €1,076,008.06)
  • Sold ~1,688 units per day this week (~08/min ~492/hour )

    PS3 (¥443,601,400.00 $3,644,987.58 €2,729,918.93)
  • Sold ~1,285 units per day this week (~375/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~1,712 weeks or ~32 years 48 weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~372 weeks or ~7 years 8 weeks
    360 (¥69,432,510.00 $570,513.61 €427,287.03)
  • Sold ~317 units per day this week (~92/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~9,094 weeks or ~174 years 46 weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~1,912 weeks or ~36 years 40 weeks
    GBA (¥5,615,400.00 $46,140.66 €34,557.12)
  • Sold ~82 units per day this week (~24/hour )

    GC (¥2,124,174.00 $17,453.93 €13,072.15)
  • Sold ~32 units per day this week (~09/hour )


    Barring the problem with some things not graphing the right stuff; I probably forgot to change the values.  This is it for the moment.  It needs better organization so I'm up for suggestions.    
  • Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.94) w/ infinitely more Graphics
    « Reply #33 on: June 14, 2007, 03:21:57 PM »
    Extropalated from Media Create Sales 6/4 - 6/10

    Companies



    Nintendo (¥4,189,271,033.00 $34,422,436.16 €25,780,735.40)
  • Sold ~26,103 units per day this week (~127/min ~7,613/hour )

    Sony (¥1,098,822,232.00 $9,028,811.42 €6,762,141.91)
  • Sold ~6,369 units per day this week (~31/min ~1,858/hour )

    Microsoft (¥79,257,570.00 $651,244.24 €487,750.36)
  • Sold ~362 units per day this week (~105/hour )

    Systems



    DS (¥1,934,262,000.00 $15,893,459.67 €11,903,430.55)
  • Sold ~16,747 units per day this week (~81/min ~4,884/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~28 Weeks
    Wii (¥2,245,609,200.00 $18,451,739.86 €13,819,458.36)
  • Sold ~9,218 units per day this week (~45/min ~2,689/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PSP in ~71 Weeks or ~1 Year 19 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~334 Weeks or ~6 Years 22 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~198 Weeks or ~3 Years 42 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~23 Weeks
    PSP (¥501,929,832.00 $4,124,261.11 €3,088,871.57)
  • Sold ~3,530 units per day this week (~17/min ~1,030/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~1,103 Weeks or ~21 Years 11 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~410 Weeks or ~7 Years 46 Weeks
    PS2 (¥164,235,600.00 $1,349,492.41 €1,010,704.37)
  • Sold ~1,585 units per day this week (~08/min ~462/hour )

    PS3 (¥432,656,800.00 $3,555,057.90 €2,662,565.97)
  • Sold ~1,254 units per day this week (~366/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~1,807 Weeks or ~34 Years 39 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~378 Weeks or ~7 Years 14 Weeks
    360 (¥79,257,570.00 $651,244.24 €487,750.36)
  • Sold ~362 units per day this week (~105/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~8,631 Weeks or ~165 Years 51 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~1,609 Weeks or ~30 Years 49 Weeks
    GBA (¥7,830,200.00 $64,339.25 €48,186.98)
  • Sold ~114 units per day this week (~33/hour )

    GC (¥1,569,633.00 $12,897.37 €9,659.51)
  • Sold ~24 units per day this week


    I'm sorry about how the graphics renderred out this week.  I'm doing it from my Big Computer and how fonts are handled must be slightly different making them much thicker.  I'm going to either render these on the other machine later tomorrow or look more into the issue and hope to have it resolved by next week.  
    I'm trying a different size of graphic but it looks like I'll need to shrink it for Media Create.                          
  • Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline MaryJane

    • Ain't got nothing on Felica Hardy
    • Score: -13
      • View Profile
    RE:Fun with Numbers (Version 1.94) w/ infinitely more Graphics
    « Reply #34 on: June 16, 2007, 02:21:25 PM »
    Your charts are awesome, they put things in perspective.

    Can you do the same for the U.S sales? I only ask because I would like to show a couple people how the Wii is kicking everyones ass besides the DS.  
    Silly monkeys; give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery. Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an a eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here.

    Offline Dirk Temporo

    • Score: -1
      • View Profile
    RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.94) w/ infinitely more Graphics
    « Reply #35 on: June 16, 2007, 09:04:35 PM »
    What MJ said. Japan sales are all well and good, but the US is even more important, as it's a larger market.
    "You've had your dream old man. It's time to wake up!"
    -Travis Touchdown

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.94) w/ infinitely more Graphics
    « Reply #36 on: June 17, 2007, 04:43:41 AM »
    Unfortunately fully no, for the month yes.

    Its not that I don't want to I just don't have the raw data.  Everything you see above is generated from this particular set of data:
    Quote

    1. DS - 117,228 | 123,211 | 3,531,436 | 17,537,115
    2. Wii - 64,529 | 69,748 | 1,749,830 | 2,669,473
    3. PSP - 24,711 | 26,358 | 978,499 | 5,510,628
    4. PS2 - 11,097 | 11,814 | 380,121 | 20,534,980
    5. PS3 - 8,776 | 8,998 | 461,955 | 919,513
    6. 360 - 2,533 | 2,219 | 104,477 | 369,179
    7. GBA - 799 | 573 | 38,951 | 15,337,030
    8. GC - 167 | 226 | 8,003 | 4,177,471

    , current Japanese Prices, and current Exchange rates.  Unfortunately the only data I consitently obtain for the US is this:
    Quote

    [NDS] 423,150
    [WII] 338,278
    [PSP] 221,120
    [PS2] 187,765
    [360] 154,932
    [PS3] 81,604
    [GBA] 80,554
    [NGC] 10,728

    Which I could use to generate ratios, gross dollar figures (high estimate), a little bar graph, and a pie chart for the month. To do anything more elaborate I need to probably keep something like a database of all the figures through each consoles full lifetime so I can get the numbers like lifetime totals and like.  Then I could get some more things.  It shouldn't take much to generate the charts I can but it will be nowhere near as extensive.  (With LTD I can't say how long it will take for someone to catch up, for example.)  Also I need to chase down the fat text bug which just happened and I don't know why and I can't duplicate correctly with similar code...  

    Edit:  I actually found better data.  I'll see what I can work up in a day or two.
    Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    RE: Fun with Numbers (Version 1.94) w/ infinitely more Graphics
    « Reply #37 on: June 17, 2007, 09:32:26 AM »
    NPD May 2007

    Companies



    Nintendo

    Sony

    Microsoft

    Systems



    DS

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~115 Months or ~9 Years 7 Months
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~71 Months or ~5 Years 11 Months
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~01 Months
  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~07 Months
    Wii

  • Will catch up with the PSP in ~41 Months or ~3 Years 5 Months
  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~236 Months or ~19 Years 8 Months
  • Will catch up with the 360 in ~15 Months or ~1 Year 3 Months
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~127 Months or ~10 Years 7 Months
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~27 Months or ~2 Years 3 Months
  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~34 Months or ~2 Years 10 Months
    PSP

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~920 Months or ~76 Years 8 Months
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~199 Months or ~16 Years 7 Months
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~19 Months or ~1 Year 7 Months
  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~30 Months or ~2 Years 6 Months
    PS2

    360

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~406 Months or ~33 Years 10 Months
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~43 Months or ~3 Years 7 Months
  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~57 Months or ~4 Years 9 Months
    PS3

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~32,753 Months or ~2729 Years 5 Months
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~146 Months or ~12 Years 2 Months
  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~161 Months or ~13 Years 5 Months
    GBA

    GC

  • Will catch up with the XBX in ~253 Months or ~21 Years 1 Month
    XBX


    It took a little digging and doing but here are the charts for NPD.  Now take in not this is month to month.  Not week to week.  I still haven't resolved this bazaar thick letter problem.  Also because NPD doesn't seem to allow you to give the full exact numbers, it seems you have to round, these are all approximates by nature.    Also for fun I added the last known NPD total sales figure for the XBox, 14,500,480.  This gives us the catch-up numbers but doesn't effect any of the other data.

    Edit:
    Yet another update to make it prettier.  
  • Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline UncleBob

    • (PATRON)
    • NWR Junior Ranger
    • Score: 98
      • View Profile
    Quote

    Originally posted by: Ceric
    Also I'm trying to keep things smaller then 240 by 240 where possible for people like UncleBob.


    Wait... what?
    Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    Most PDAs and other mobile browser have screens that hang roughly around 240x320 and your always complaining when the forums aren't friendly to your phone.
    Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline UncleBob

    • (PATRON)
    • NWR Junior Ranger
    • Score: 98
      • View Profile
    Ah.  No, when I'm mobile browsing, I just avoid threads like this all together.  It's the functionality of the threads that simply don't work for the mobile phone.  For example, I can't even use the quick reply box...
    Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

    Offline IceCold

    • I love you Vanilla Ice!
    • Score: 2
      • View Profile
    UncleBob, you still haven't figured out that you can just choose "Standard" mode instead of "Enhanced" and it removes all pictures and avatars automatically?
    "I used to sell furniture for a living. The trouble was, it was my own."
    ---------------------------------------------
    "If your parents never had children, chances are you won't either."
    ----------------------------
    "If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by the candlelig

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    I find that if I have Quick Reply docked it helps with some of that.
    Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    Some Consoles Numbers
    I'm sticking this here for future reference.  I'm really looking for the total US sales of all the previous consoles.
    Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline MaryJane

    • Ain't got nothing on Felica Hardy
    • Score: -13
      • View Profile
    Awesome job again! The NPD numbers are good.

    I have a suggestion though; I think it might be better, at least for the pie charts, to seperate the consoles and handhelds, just to give a better picture of the console wars, especially since the DS is the obvious king of everything.  
    Silly monkeys; give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery. Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an a eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here.

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    Actually the DS isn't.  I was relatively shocked but it hasn't passed the GBA or the GameCube yet here in the States.
    The XBox ruined it because I have no color for systems that are no longer in the NPD Official numbers it got the default which is also a linear gradient. I'm going to change that next time around.  Though in general all the gradient ones are Handhelds and all the none ones are consoles.  I felt this lets you see just how big of a player the Handhelds are, allow for a quick comparison of them, and it saves a little real estate from adding 2 pie charts which I actually originally intended to do that but to be fair it would end up being four more pie charts for NPD and 6 for the Media Create Numbers.  If there is demand enough for it though I'll definitely do it.

    Thanks for the suggestion, I'm always looking for ways to improve it, like I have totally different rendering settings this time and stop leaving any of it to chance.  
    Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline Dirk Temporo

    • Score: -1
      • View Profile
    Sweet. Not doing quite as well in the US, but still kicking ass.
    "You've had your dream old man. It's time to wake up!"
    -Travis Touchdown

    Offline Ceric

    • Once killed four Deviljho in one hunt
    • Score: 0
      • View Profile
    Media Create 6/11 - 6/17

    Companies



    Nintendo (¥4,249,009,377.00 $34,913,294.67 €26,148,364.62)
  • Sold ~26,471 units per day this week (~129/min ~7,721/hour )

    Sony (¥1,322,216,508.00 $10,864,399.31 €8,136,908.23)
  • Sold ~7,830 units per day this week (~38/min ~2,284/hour )

    Microsoft (¥237,272,070.00 $1,949,619.07 €1,460,170.14)
  • Sold ~1,083 units per day this week (~316/hour )

    Systems



    DS (¥1,958,286,000.00 $16,090,860.27 €12,051,274.03)
  • Sold ~16,955 units per day this week (~82/min ~4,945/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~27 Weeks
    Wii (¥2,280,130,800.00 $18,735,397.23 €14,031,903.97)
  • Sold ~9,360 units per day this week (~45/min ~2,730/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PSP in ~87 Weeks or ~1 Year 35 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~332 Weeks or ~6 Years 20 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~194 Weeks or ~3 Years 38 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~22 Weeks
    PSP (¥677,588,008.00 $5,567,610.63 €4,169,870.37)
  • Sold ~4,765 units per day this week (~23/min ~1,390/hour )

  • Will catch up with the PS2 in ~701 Weeks or ~13 Years 25 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~301 Weeks or ~5 Years 41 Weeks
    PS2 (¥177,215,200.00 $1,456,143.29 €1,090,580.71)
  • Sold ~1,710 units per day this week (~08/min ~499/hour )

    PS3 (¥467,413,300.00 $3,840,645.39 €2,876,457.15)
  • Sold ~1,354 units per day this week (~395/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~1,672 Weeks or ~32 Years 8 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~350 Weeks or ~6 Years 38 Weeks
    360 (¥237,272,070.00 $1,949,619.07 €1,460,170.14)
  • Sold ~1,083 units per day this week (~316/hour )

  • Will catch up with the GBA in ~2,227 Weeks or ~42 Years 43 Weeks
  • Will catch up with the GC in ~516 Weeks or ~9 Years 48 Weeks
    GBA (¥8,496,600.00 $69,814.93 €52,288.00)
  • Sold ~124 units per day this week (~36/hour )

    GC (¥2,095,977.00 $17,222.24 €12,898.62)
  • Sold ~32 units per day this week (~09/hour )

     
  • Need a Personal NonCitizen-Magical-Elf-Boy-Child-Game-Abused-King-Kratos-Play-Thing Crimm Unmaker-of-Worlds-Hunter-Of-Boxes
    so, I don't have to edit as Much.

    Offline Kairon

    • T_T
    • NWR Staff Pro
    • Score: 48
      • View Profile
    The colors! THE COLORS!!!
    Carmine Red, Associate Editor

    A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
    The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
    Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
    Some shall be pardon'd, and some punished:
    For never was a story of more woe
    Than this of Sega and her Mashiro.

    Offline Requiem

    • Score: 1
      • View Profile
    They say a picture is worth a thousand words...........

    Not in this case.
    "Hey....

    I'm not a whore, ok? Really.....really, I'm not.

    But, if she slips man....if she slips, I slide!"

    Qoute of the Summer