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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2007, 07:00:00 PM »
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Whether or not it's a system seller remains to be seen--but there are quite a few people in the industry who seem to think it will be.

I don't think Kutaragi and Phil Harrison count.
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2007, 07:37:29 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2007, 07:40:39 PM »
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Whether or not it's a system seller remains to be seen--but there are quite a few people in the industry who seem to think it will be.
It will only be available to download, right? How can it possibly be a system seller if the average customer can't see a physical copy in stores?
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2007, 07:52:56 PM »
The same way the virtual console and XBLA are, I'd imagine.

And, from what I know (though I could be wrong), it's the demo version of the game that will be available for download only. The full version coming later will be on blu-ray.

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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2007, 08:30:14 PM »
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Kairon: I thought this was a flame zone? Heck Pro flamed me in the No More Heroes thread and no one defended me. But don't you DARE question the quality of a Sony game or the significance of Sony's showing, because that is flaming.  Or better yet don't question the quality of games that have a cult following, because you will get insulted for not "understanding" them.


Sorry. I just thought you were flaming Sony because you said exactly what I would've said if I had been flaming them. I guess I've just got an oversensitive flame detector from my days in the thick of the fanboi wars.

... But c'mon. You've gotta admit that you're being QUITE harsh on these poor indie devs. I mean, it's a multiplayer platformer where users can make their own physics-based stages!!! WHAT'S NOT TO LUUUURRRVVEEE?!?!?!!?!?!?!?

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RE: Microsoft and GDC
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2007, 09:08:20 PM »
Does it strike anyone else as ironic that Sony is pushing a 2D game as their flagship title?

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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2007, 09:18:40 PM »
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Does it strike anyone else as ironic that Sony is pushing a 2D game as their flagship title?


What I find even more funny is that it has a cutesy design, when Sony was always using their "mature" games to hit Nintendo over the head now. Except they now seem to be adopting a similar to title what they always attacked Nintendo for!
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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2007, 09:22:59 PM »
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nothing big!? Halo 3 BETA is supposed to launch THIS SPRING, giving us an exact date would be HUGE.


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Seriously, the beta's gonna tide over the hardcore fans in the short term. Like a shiny thing, they'll be distracted for enough time for them to actually test the product. So don't hold you're breath. Once the beta starts, they'll get an idea of how many bugs are in the product.

(and if they're actually serious about cleaning out the majority of bugs, it won't be out this year)

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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2007, 10:53:11 PM »
Woah there tex. watch the thread breaking there.

I have no problem with open source projects using me to test out thier products and reports bugs etc, but I hate it when companies push something out on to the public that is not ready simply because they are too cheap to do bug testing.

I do not ever want to ever see the release now patch later mentailty to the the status quo on consoles.
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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2007, 07:01:00 AM »
When your console costs $600, there are no system sellers.

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2007, 07:47:13 AM »
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Of course Pittbboi and Bloodworth would know more about the focus of an event than the companies involved. I'm sorry but Sony's image is still tainted in the overall public eye, what was revealed at GDC is not going to impact the public at large, just people who followed an event that was never about big announcements.


The focus of the event doesn't make a difference.  E3 draws in a lot more readers, but if the press is there, your announcement is going to be reported and people are going to talk about it.  It's best to show things that are relevant to developers, but after the conference what are people talking about?  They're talking about Home, LittleBigPlanet, Fable 2, Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, and the various developer sessions, which are heavily weighted in Nintendo's favor this year.  The general impression is that Microsoft didn't show up to the party.

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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2007, 08:15:01 AM »
Well, to be fair, Fable 2 is a Microsoft-published game...
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2007, 10:28:17 AM »
Laugh all you want but your a fool, no a BRAINLESS MORON if you think Halo 3 isnt going to be HUGE. The Beta sure as hell is a big deal, its WHAT IS SELLING CRACKDOWN. Halo is big enough to get this kind of attention and peopel are getting pumped up for it, maybe not in japanr or Australia, but around here, its a BIG DEAL. SOrry if I sounded like Iw as defending MS, I HATE MS with a passion, but I am smart enough to see the imnpact this stupid beta is having on the peopel around here. I see the damnc omerciasl all over the TV "Crackodwn comes with  Halo 3 Beta key" all the damn time. I was there the day crackdown came out with all my friends who bought it JUST FOR the Halo 3 beta key. Maybe its not a game for everyone, Its certainly not on my top 20 list, but there is no denying the impact this game has. I laugh at anyone who thinks it wont be huge.


I know it's stupid to get worked up over a beta, but its going to be online and its going to hold people over till the real game comes oput, and one thing it *WILL DO* is create more hype for the game. MS could have hyped that a little bit and Sony would have been forgotten ten seconds latter.

As fro PS3, no ONE GAME is EVER going to be worht the entry price, but to be honest NO ONE GAME is ever good enough to purchase ANY system, with FF7 being the *only* exception in my lifetime. The ps3 will never have that one game to make it worht it, the opnly chance it has is to get as many good to steller games as it can get.  Evcen the Wii only has 1 game so far so good thatit justifies the purhcase and that game is available on another system.






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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2007, 10:35:29 AM »
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Laugh all you want but your a fool, no a BRAINLESS MORON if you think Halo 3 isnt going to be HUGE. The Beta sure as hell is a big deal, its WHAT IS SELLING CRACKDOWN. Halo is big enough to get this kind of attention and peopel are getting pumped up for it, maybe not in japanr or Australia, but around here, its a BIG DEAL. SOrry if I sounded like Iw as defending MS, I HATE MS with a passion, but I am smart enough to see the imnpact this stupid beta is having on the peopel around here. I see the damnc omerciasl all over the TV "Crackodwn comes with  Halo 3 Beta key" all the damn time. I was there the day crackdown came out with all my friends who bought it JUST FOR the Halo 3 beta key. Maybe its not a game for everyone, Its certainly not on my top 20 list, but there is no denying the impact this game has. I laugh at anyone who thinks it wont be huge.


I know it's stupid to get worked up over a beta, but its going to be online and its going to hold people over till the real game comes oput, and one thing it *WILL DO* is create more hype for the game. MS could have hyped that a little bit and Sony would have been forgotten ten seconds latter.

As fro PS3, no ONE GAME is EVER going to be worht the entry price, but to be honest NO ONE GAME is ever good enough to purchase ANY system, with FF7 being the *only* exception in my lifetime. The ps3 will never have that one game to make it worht it, the opnly chance it has is to get as many good to steller games as it can get.  Evcen the Wii only has 1 game so far so good thatit justifies the purhcase and that game is available on another system.


What one game would that be on Wii, TP? The Wii also has Wii sports, Excite Truck and WarioWare, which are probably the main system sellers so far, especially in regards to casual or non-gamers. BTW I sadly bought Crackdown for the GAME, and it turned out to be generic crap and I'm going to sell it, don't care for the Halo beta.
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2007, 11:56:31 AM »
I was meaning it was the only one that is *THAT* good to get the systenm for, some of those are good but not good enough to runout and buy a wii. Well Wii Sports but it comes with the system.


Um but I LIKED Crackdown its the most fun game I have played on 360 in a while. But that could be cuz Ivebeen dreprived since all my friend buys is sports games and crackdown is his first real game for 360. But I still liked it.


I dont meant o say Wii isnt worth buying or doesnt have good games, just not any one game thats so good you cant live with out it.


And ugh to Wario ware, but um dont flame me for saying that...
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« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2007, 12:36:24 PM »
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I was meaning it was the only one that is *THAT* good to get the systenm for, some of those are good but not good enough to runout and buy a wii. Well Wii Sports but it comes with the system.


Um but I LIKED Crackdown its the most fun game I have played on 360 in a while. But that could be cuz Ivebeen dreprived since all my friend buys is sports games and crackdown is his first real game for 360. But I still liked it.


I dont meant o say Wii isnt worth buying or doesnt have good games, just not any one game thats so good you cant live with out it.


And ugh to Wario ware, but um dont flame me for saying that...


::Throws a flame at you:: Not to derail this topic like I do every other thread, but the reason why I didn't like Crackdown is that it was quite basic and got quite repetitive, it was basically "Go hunt down the bad guy, shoot lots of bad guys, level up, repeat".
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2007, 01:09:27 PM »
What I liked was all the running and jumping. ANd collecting green things. I didnt pay attention to the voice All I kept hearing was "AGENT SENSELESS KILLING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED" and crap like that. I made the police my enemy it was fun. Dont how I ended up liking it when I hate GTA. oh well.  
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« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2007, 02:09:25 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2007, 02:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2007, 02:40:38 PM »
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Laugh all you want but your a fool, no a BRAINLESS MORON if you think Halo 3 isnt going to be HUGE.


Did I ever say or think this? Its the title that every 360 owner that still regularly plays Halo 2 is hanging out for. Of course its going to sell well.

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As fro PS3, no ONE GAME is EVER going to be worht the entry price, but to be honest NO ONE GAME is ever good enough to purchase ANY system, with FF7 being the *only* exception in my lifetime.


Mario 64. Try and deny that with a straight face.

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Evcen the Wii only has 1 game so far so good thatit justifies the purhcase and that game is available on another system.


Wii Sports? Just because its a pack-in doesn't mean its value is lessened. Because that's the game that people want to play. Its just conveniently included.


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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2007, 09:51:52 AM »
Mario 64, Ill give you that I dont mention it cuz its given, it was a good game.

Wii sports DOESNT count in what I *was* saying cuz it COMES with the system, there are lots of reaons to buy the system and Wii sports in one of them, but its nto good enough, IMO, to run out and buy if it was sold seperatley. Maybe to toerhs it is so i wont say its bad cuz its nto its a great game.




But you did make it sound like Halo 3 beta wont be a big deal when  in fact it already is. Bt whatever thats all besides the point, which you seamed to miss again.


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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2007, 10:05:41 AM »
People in Japan are getting Wii's just for Wii Sports and Wii Play, both sold separately.

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2007, 11:11:39 AM »
yeah but Japansese people are compulsive so...  
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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2007, 11:35:06 AM »
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yeah but Japansese people are compulsive so...


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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2007, 12:32:01 PM »
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