Author Topic: Oh no, this can't be true...(about online play) (Read 16885 times)

TrueNerd · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:02:37 PM »

"NOOOOOOOOOOOO" - Darth Vader

SH*T WILL HIT THE FAN IF SMASH BROS TRIES PULLING THIS TRASH.

MorningStar · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:46:17 PM »

Oh yes it will...

NoNo · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2006, 09:24:26 PM »

this is friggin horrible! i hope it doesnt make it stateside. the main reason for me to even get pokemon battle revolution was to battle my pokemon online/worldwide. i personally only know one other pokemon player (my cousin) and you could only battle the same set of pokemon so long. i guess we'll just have to exchange ID's on the forums i mean its already being done with wii friend codes and ds wifi games.

Kairon · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2006, 09:43:51 PM »

Similarly, Resistance for the PS3 has its own friends list completely non-integrated with the overall Playstation network.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #29 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:48:33 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Similarly, Resistance for the PS3 has its own friends list completely non-integrated with the overall Playstation network.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

OMFG NINTENDO COPIED SONY =O

I do find it odd though, given the fact that there are Wii codes already....

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #30 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:51:23 AM »

There will be RIOTS if they pull this sh!t with Smash Bros. This is failure of epic proportions.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #31 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:23:17 AM »

I am taking a wait and see approach. Nintendo of America could change this before releasing the game here and just use the system's friend system. Also, this game was the first Nintendo Online game being worked on, so it could have been behind the times with online thinking. (I know that one is a long shot.) There is another possibility that sense this communicates with the DS it might need it too. (Another long shot.)

Basically I am not worrying about this one game...lets wait and see if it is a trend.

JonLeung · « **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:32:52 AM »

Maybe it's only certain games?

That said, since I only played Mario Kart DS online for one day for some unbeknownst reason, I had forgotten that there is the option to play people other than your friends that you've traded codes with.

In CastleVania: Portrait Of Ruin the other day I was surprised that I could go to random people's shops, which was okay because I just needed a Long Sword that I'd stupidly sold but needed for a Quest. In that case I guess it doesn't matter much if you by from a friend or a stranger, especially considering that stock isn't ever depleted. Weird.

Anyway, in this case, since it's a Nintendo game (Pokémon Company/Genius Sonority/whoever) and it's a Pokémon game, it could just be to protect the particular demographic that make up the majority of Pokémon players (even though if anyone truly thinks Pokémon is just for kids they're sorely mistaken).

couchmonkey · « **Reply #33 on:** December 15, 2006, 03:12:55 AM »

Holy Cheese Batman, do you want some Swiss to go with your wine?

This is bad, but I think I'll live.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2006, 05:51:32 AM »

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Originally posted by: MarioAllStar
Sorry to continue my complaints, but what features in this Pokemon game could allow a predator to seek out kids? As far as I know, there is no voice chat or customizable content. I fail to see how anything obscene could be slipped in.

well you have the fact that Pokemon games are targeted to kids, so a game where kids play would be a good place to seek out kids.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #35 on:** December 15, 2006, 05:57:18 AM »

Here's what irks me about this: pedophiles can still find children through this service. All they have to do is go to the mile-long Gamefaqs list and drop their code in and start entering the codes of others into their Wii/DS.

But yeah, if I have to enter the codes of everyone I want to play SSBB with TWICE, then I will not be a happy man...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:14:35 AM »

Nintendo - Taking good ideas and making them suck somehow since 1996.

Honestly I don't know why Nintendo honestly cares that much. If I want to stalk kids I don't need the Wii or the DS to do it. I already can do it over the World Wide Web. Hell I could do it through Nintendo.com's OWN FORUMS! Somehow ISP's and web browser makers like Mozilla and Microsoft and actualy PC hardware manufacturers aren't constantly getting sued out of their ass for stuff like this. Sony and MS also don't seem to care. Nintendo is just going overboard with this crap. Parents are supposed to keep an eye on their kids.

So for this game I assume you have to enter a code for the individual Wii AND the individual game. Doesn't having to enter two codes actually make this WORSE than the DS method?

I don't know about this company sometimes. If they made porno they would load their films with obese senior women and then have no idea why they sold poorly.

JonLeung · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:15:43 AM »

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
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Originally posted by: MarioAllStar
Sorry to continue my complaints, but what features in this Pokemon game could allow a predator to seek out kids? As far as I know, there is no voice chat or customizable content. I fail to see how anything obscene could be slipped in.

well you have the fact that Pokemon games are targeted to kids, so a game where kids play would be a good place to seek out kids.

I think I see MarioAllStar's point. If there's no voice chat, no messaging of any kind, no customizeable content, and all you do is have Pokémon throttle each other, then there's no harm of playing against a total stranger. Unless they're some kind of uber-hacker who can delete your Pokémon from afar, but that's unlikely. And unless some kid's stupid enough to put his/her phone number or some abbreviation of his whole address as his in-game name, but who is that stupid?

For the messaging, if it's necessary at all, they could allow you to only select from in-game phrases. You know, like "Let's battle!" "Let's trade." "I accept." "I decline." "Maybe some other time." Etc. This would also allow people who speak different languages to play against each other, but not allow anyone to say anything outside the context of the game.

utarefsoN · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:16:11 AM »

i dont see why every one is suprised. Its nintendo, and they will continue to be their oxymoronic selfs. That is to say, they are among those most brilliant people in games but at the exact same time they are the stupidist.

If you guys dont like this code bit i highly suggest not buying this game. If it sells well you better believe nintendo will incorporate this code business to their other games, especially smash brothers, since that too is a predominatly kids game. If nintendo sees that this pokemon game does bad they will look as to why and hopefully they realize that the codes is among the problem. Alas, it a damn pokemon game, so it inherently sells well. bottom line were all fuked.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:19:30 AM »

Do Captain Planet a favor and please, don't buy the game, everyone.

The Omen · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:46:15 AM »

Everyone calm down...Elebits uses your ADDRESS BOOK. Pokemon is connected heavily with the DS incarnations, which used a similar password system, so me thinks that's the reason for Nintendo carrying it over to the Wii..

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:56:53 AM »

Wait. The Omen: Elebits has online elements to it? How, why does it use your address book?

vudu · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:03:55 AM »

Omen's right. Battle Revolution integrates with Diamond/Pearl. The game-specific 12-digit friends code is almost certainly related to that. Consider the fact that DS games use 12-digit friends codes and the Wii uses 16-digit friends codes.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #43 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:04:28 AM »

You can make custom levels and send them to your friends.

JonLeung · « **Reply #44 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:06:56 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
Omen's right. Battle Revolution integrates with Diamond/Pearl. The game-specific 12-digit friends code is almost certainly related to that. Consider the fact that DS games use 12-digit friends codes and the Wii uses 16-digit friends codes.

Yeah, interesting! Not only can you play DS to DS, or DS on your Wii to someone else's DS & Wii, or Wii to Wii, but you could probably also play your DS againt someone's Wii! Interesting. o_0

EDITED for spelling.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #45 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:20:12 AM »

If that's the case, then thank GOD for that.

If all of the address book nonsense was only going to be used for sending photos and Miis, then I WOULD cry bloody murder over it.

Miis are nice and all, but this is supposed to be generating an online network of people I will play games with at some point in the future.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #46 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:40:11 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Do Captain Planet a favor and please, don't buy the game, everyone.

Unfortunately the only way to make Nintendo realize this is stupid is to not buy the game, but that's not going to happen because people will see Pokemon and rush out to buy it. And then we would have to assume that Nintendo would see that people aren't buying it because of the crappy way to play it online and not for some other reason.

MarioAllStar · « **Reply #47 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:47:23 AM »

Thanks a lot for that bit of information, Omen.

I am not a fan of the friend code system, but one-per-system is far better than one-per-game. Hopefully, since all online games should be relying on the underlying operating system for friends lists, Nintendo could move from friend codes to a parental control setting in the future (though I wouldn't expect it anytime soon). I think that is the best route: Start off without codes, then let parents limit it from there.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #48 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:23:55 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Nintendo - Taking good ideas and making them suck somehow since 1996.

Honestly I don't know why Nintendo honestly cares that much. If I want to stalk kids I don't need the Wii or the DS to do it. I already can do it over the World Wide Web. Hell I could do it through Nintendo.com's OWN FORUMS! Somehow ISP's and web browser makers like Mozilla and Microsoft and actualy PC hardware manufacturers aren't constantly getting sued out of their ass for stuff like this. Sony and MS also don't seem to care. Nintendo is just going overboard with this crap. Parents are supposed to keep an eye on their kids.

So for this game I assume you have to enter a code for the individual Wii AND the individual game. Doesn't having to enter two codes actually make this WORSE than the DS method?

I don't know about this company sometimes. If they made porno they would load their films with obese senior women and then have no idea why they sold poorly.

LOLers. I agree with everything here.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #49 on:** December 15, 2006, 09:00:40 AM »

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Originally posted by: The Omen

Everyone calm down...Elebits uses your ADDRESS BOOK. Pokemon is connected heavily with the DS incarnations, which used a similar password system, so me thinks that's the reason for Nintendo carrying it over to the Wii..

Woah, the Internets overreacted? NO WAY.

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I don't know about this company sometimes. If they made porno they would load their films with obese senior women and then have no idea why they sold poorly.

LOLers. I agree with everything here.

Which is why DS is such a huge failure, right? RIGHT? And why Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and Animal Crossing DS are only 13 and 8 on the list of all-time best-selling games in Japan. If it weren't for those annoying friends codes, they'd be #1 and #0.

Seriously, this is inconvenient, but it's not THAT big of a deal - and if other posters are correct it means you'll be able to play Wii vs. DS, which makes perfect sense. You'd think Nintendo just announced they weren't going to support online gaming at all.

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Author Topic: Oh no, this can't be true...(about online play) (Read 16885 times)