Author Topic: New York, New York Bans Trans Fats Save the Fries!!! (Read 15917 times)

King of Twitch · « **Reply #25 on:** December 07, 2006, 06:34:48 AM »

there is no longer a good reason to goto McDonalds, w/o their fries they have nothing.

>>Free DS Wi-fi FTW

decoyman · « **Reply #26 on:** December 07, 2006, 09:32:29 AM »

I know this is the Funhouse (W00t), but I must turn serious for just a mo'

Trans fat is bad. Really, really bad. The news that New York has banned it is very welcome in my eyes because it's something that needs to be banned everywhere. It's been banned in European countries for years already. Why? Simple: do you like cancer? Trans fat greatly increases your risk for certain types of cancer (like prostate). Even the tiniest amounts of it increase your risk, so you have to really watch out. I think there are other bad things associated with it, but that's the biggie.

It's in so many things too – even things that say "No Trans Fat!" on the packaging. Apparently, the FDA folks say that companies can label a product with the little "No Trans Fat" seal if there's less than 1g per serving. It's a pretty scary/deceptive loophole, but there's a way to watch for it anyways. Just check the ingredients: if you see anything that says "partially hydrogenated (some type of oil)" then it's got trans fat in it. Now, here's where vudu's and my information differ: from what I understand, fully hydrogenated oils are ok, but it's the partially hydrogenated ones that cause the problems. I don't know either way, so I just avoid them both. (shrug)

And, why should the government be doing this? Ignorance. Because consumers don't know any better, and don't seek out the information for themselves, it's up to the government to protect them. Perhaps if there were some "No trans fat" advocacy group out there, consumer demand would be enough. Such a group doesn't exist, or if it does, it is no match for the big food industry lobbyists, so they're restricted to a low profile. I don't know what the reason is, but the more laws like this exist, the less I have to preach to my friends and family about the dangers of trans fat. And, yes, you guys count as friends. Awww!

So avoid hydrogenated oils and by association trans fat! Be a smart, well-informed consumer and look at the ingredients of the stuff you buy and make your voice heard with your dollars. Trans fat is bad and shouldn't be used. Maybe if we make enough of an impact this way, laws banning it won't be necessary, because it won't make good business sense for companies to continue using ingrdients which hurt its consumers.

END RANT.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 07, 2006, 11:18:45 AM »

with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.

vudu · « **Reply #28 on:** December 07, 2006, 12:05:12 PM »

Cigarettes cause cancer. Despite what the tobacco companies try to tell you it's a proven fact. But that doesn't mean they should be banned all together.

What the government needs to do is to educate consumers on the dangers of trans fats. If you do this and enough customers decide for themselves to avoid trans fats companies will stop using the product on their own. It's stupid that our government needs to step in the decide for us what's right and what's wrong.

What's the next step? Ban all fatty foods? Ban alcohol? What about red meat? Any kind of meat?

This is no different than first amendment rights. If you open the door just a little bit people will step in and take away your rights.

We're this close to waking up and realizing we're no longer making any decisions in our own lives.

Long live the United States of Airstrip One. 1984 reference.

decoyman · « **Reply #29 on:** December 07, 2006, 12:39:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.

I AM SERIOUS

(just like trans fat!)

Smoke39 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 07, 2006, 01:24:47 PM »

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.

You put the apostrophe in the wrong place. Decoyman got it right. Loser.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #31 on:** December 07, 2006, 01:40:56 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smoke39
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.

You put the apostrophe in the wrong place. Decoyman got it right. Loser.

The apostrophe was supposed to be a subtle satire.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 07, 2006, 01:43:08 PM »

I don't think I buy that.

vudu · « **Reply #33 on:** December 07, 2006, 02:06:56 PM »

I assumed 'mo meant emo.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #34 on:** December 08, 2006, 12:32:26 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
Cigarettes cause cancer. Despite what the tobacco companies try to tell you it's a proven fact. But that doesn't mean they should be banned all together.

well, here it's THIS close of that happening... (around March, smoking in closed and public areas was banned, and the cigarettes' boxes have a pretty big ad (3/4 of the box actually..) with a disturbing image... obviously, since the actual president is an onclogist, that makes sense

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BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 08, 2006, 04:06:18 AM »

Its my Body. Its My Choice.
VOTE Pro Choice!!

couchmonkey · « **Reply #36 on:** December 08, 2006, 06:02:10 AM »

Why am I voting for Pro again?

decoyman · « **Reply #37 on:** December 08, 2006, 07:02:47 AM »

This thread got too serious after I posted, and I apologize for that. I must now set right what once went wrong!

Here, take this picture of my cat and her massive arm, and imagine her saying, "How YOU doin'?"

NWR_DrewMG · « **Reply #38 on:** December 08, 2006, 07:18:15 AM »

Decoy, kudos on using Internet properly, with emoticons to convey real emotion.

And now, I must return to indulging in my deep and abiding passion for all things Thai. :-]

31 Flavas · « **Reply #39 on:** December 09, 2006, 03:43:44 AM »

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Originally posted by: Pale
It doesn't really taste any better. Companies don't use it because it tastes better. They use it because they can achieve similar taste at a much lower cost.

Vegetable oils are very unstable for heating/cooking, they break down into carcinogens and free radicals almost as soon as you heat them. They have very high smoke points, but still are chemically unstable. So one of the reasons why the oils are hydrogenated is to improve the longevity of the oil. In otherwords, restraunts do not want to replace their cooking oil everyday, it would be prohibitivly expensive. Hence, hydrogenation.

The highly monosaturated oils are pretty chemcially stable (i.e. Olive oil), but again are prohibitivly expensive.

Ceric · « **Reply #40 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:11:27 AM »

In response to the cancer thing. Oxygen is the most Cancerous substance known to man. If you don't like cancer don't breath... Arguments like that hold little weight. Something like this I don't like bans on. Now if the government wanted to give a tax benefit for not using them that be another story.

MaryJane · « **Reply #41 on:** December 09, 2006, 11:31:30 AM »

its a good thing we don't breath pure oxygen then isn't it?

OH NO!

The government is trying to help us FASCISM!!!

Let us fall on faces first (or in this case fat a$$es) then we'll blame the government because we can't accept responsibility for actions (like the fact of the matter that we elect this same government we believe is trying to oppress us) and we'll protect our freedom!

Ceric · « **Reply #42 on:** December 09, 2006, 02:44:59 PM »

lol. Great so you would like them to ban all M rated games as well? I see this legislation in the same vain.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #43 on:** December 09, 2006, 03:16:14 PM »

I think the government should ban "Mary Jane". Dirty Hippies.

I DEMAND MORE AWESOME CAT PICTURES!

segagamer12 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 09, 2006, 06:38:32 PM »

we just out lawed smoking in restuarans in my state but legalised mariuana instead go figure.

MaryJane · « **Reply #45 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:11:22 AM »

what state do u live in because i'm moving there!

M rated games are entertainment, allowing people to eat something that kills them isn't smart, i don't know why marijuana is illegal in most places when alcohol isn't and it is so much worse for you.

Have you seen those commercials where they talk about how someone who was high gets in so many fatal accidents? For one thing the number they use is incomparable to drunk drivers, the other is that an independent group did a study on that and determined that test weren't actually conclusive since THC stays in your system for 4 weeks or more, they tried to determine by the levels, but all that actually be determined is that in the cases they used the driver had smoked within 7 days of the accident. AND if you're an alcoholic and you try to quit cold turkey you could die! It has happened, no one has ever died from quitting herion cold turkey but from a legalized substance you can?

Complaining about banning trans fats, is like complaining about banning ecoli. IT KILLS YOU!

segagamer12 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 10, 2006, 05:53:30 PM »

I live in NV, apparently the maryjane legalisation was only in Las Vegas so far. I didnt get to vote this last election but I know how it turned out.

Svevan · « **Reply #47 on:** December 10, 2006, 05:59:51 PM »

POSTED BY MARYJANE

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Complaining about banning trans fats, is like complaining about banning ecoli. IT KILLS YOU!

So does MARIJUANA.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 10, 2006, 06:41:16 PM »

Its just like seatbelts. Wearing a seatbelt COULD save your life or it COULD kill you depneds on circumstances. Yet they force us to wear steatbelts.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:47:19 PM »

You could die taking a shower. Bathing should be banned.

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